“NFL-style”

[Husker1]

You really putting NFL & CFB averages together?

And leaving out that 3 (or 4) of those years are him taking over struggling programs with low-skill rosters?

And that in both previous CFB stops he increased scoring by 30%+ percent in 2 years?

These are Ralph Wiggum statistics.

I suppose I didn’t cherry pick stats like you did. See, the great the great thing about facts are that they’re true whether you like them or not. Also, I don’t understand what you’re arguing. Are you saying Rhule has historically had good offenses vs. mediocre?

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

I suppose I didn’t cherry pick stats like you did. See, the great the great thing about facts are that they’re true whether you like them or not. Also, I don’t understand what you’re arguing. Are you saying Rhule has historically had good offenses vs. mediocre?

I'm still lolling that you think you can put ppg from Carolina into the college equation & believe you're doing any kind of legitimate statistical summary.

Yes, Rhule has turned bad offenses into good offenses in both of his previous CFB stops, and has our offense up significantly as well.

 

[Alcaus]

Right now, special teams isn’t solid, so it’s a concern moving forward. That’s all I’m saying.

Who's arguing special teams isn't a concern?

Your arguments ITT don't align with what we've been told. Rhule has said multiple times this season how important special teams is. How he wants to emulate great special teams units. How special teams needs to be a weapon and how they want to be aggressive. Not sure why we would focus on some supposed comment from over a year ago when he's told us over the past several weeks and offseason what their philosophy is.

It's why we try to set up punt/kick returns and it's why we (maddeningly sometimes) kickoff to the 5yd line to force teams to make decisions in the return game as opposed to just kicking a touchback. Unfortunately, we're not good at pretty much anything outside punting and fielding. If it's not fixed/improved on the backend of the season, my gut is that Rhule finds someone who can do the job during the offseason.

The only way you could come to the conclusion that Rhule doesn't care about special teams is if you haven't been listening. If you need to see Foley fired for that to be proven to you (you're not alone) then you're probably out of luck, barring some kind of historical disaster that leads to a loss. I don't see the guy firing in-season.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I suppose I didn’t cherry pick stats like you did. See, the great the great thing about facts are that they’re true whether you like them or not. Also, I don’t understand what you’re arguing. Are you saying Rhule has historically had good offenses vs. mediocre?

College and pro are basically a different sport. Rhule's offenses haven't been great but there isn't really a need to make moronic comparisons to make that point

 

[Stan Raymond]

Temple 2013 - 24.9ppg

Temple 2014 - 23.1ppg

Temple 2015 - 29.8ppg

Temple 2016 - 32.4ppg

Baylor 2017 - 24.3ppg

Baylor 2018 - 29.5ppg

Baylor 2019 - 33.6ppg

Carolina 2020 - 21.9ppg

Carolina 2021 - 17.9ppg

Carolina 2022 - 18.6ppg

Nebraska 2023 - 18.0ppg

Nebraska 2024 - 28.0ppg

Career Average - 25.1ppg

All time, his teams have scored 30ppg or more 43 times out of 108 games.

Since 2020, his teams have scored 30ppg or more only 7 times out of 56 games.

Rhule is who he is. His offenses have been generally mediocre, which is fine, so long as the other two phases of the game are solid. Right now, special teams isn’t solid, so it’s a concern moving forward. That’s all I’m saying.

That's fair I guess. I'd say it takes him longer to build an offense than a defense, I'd attribute that to taking awhile to build an OL. The years I'd pay attention to are:

Temple 2016 - 32.4ppg
Baylor 2019 - 33.6ppg

That's what he's building towards. I think it's unfair to take averages of a coach that has had to build a team from a pretty bad place. You don't average a player's 40 times from elementary school through HS, but take his time during his SR year. It's about the mature product, not the product in transition.

 

[HuskerDocCo]

was thinkin “nfl style” was some sort of missionary type position sad

 

[Jim14510]

was thinkin “nfl style” was some sort of missionary type position sad

Butt to butt. Have to have a very large penis. I have been unsuccessful to date.

 

[herbsinator]

was thinkin “nfl style” was some sort of missionary type position sad

Just don’t go full Roethlisberger style

 

[Alcaus]

Butt to butt. Have to have a very large penis. I have been unsuccessful to date.

It's actually when you put a penalty flag in her ass and she holds onto it while you wear a Mahomes jersey

 

[Jim14510]

It's actually when you put a penalty flag in her ass and she holds onto it while wearing a Mahomes jersey

That gay adjacent.

 

[Alcaus]

That gay adjacent.

Fucking autocorrect ruined my joke

 

[HuskerDocCo]

Wow! Sure woke up this thread !! BELLCHH

 

[Husker1]

Who's arguing special teams isn't a concern?

Your arguments ITT don't align with what we've been told. Rhule has said multiple times this season how important special teams is. How he wants to emulate great special teams units. How special teams needs to be a weapon and how they want to be aggressive. Not sure why we would focus on some supposed comment from over a year ago when he's told us over the past several weeks and offseason what their philosophy is.

It's why we try to set up punt/kick returns and it's why we (maddeningly sometimes) kickoff to the 5yd line to force teams to make decisions in the return game as opposed to just kicking a touchback. Unfortunately, we're not good at pretty much anything outside punting and fielding. If it's not fixed/improved on the backend of the season, my gut is that Rhule finds someone who can do the job during the offseason.

The only way you could come to the conclusion that Rhule doesn't care about special teams is if you haven't been listening. If you need to see Foley fired for that to be proven to you (you're not alone) then you're probably out of luck, barring some kind of historical disaster that leads to a loss. I don't see the guy firing in-season.

No, what I was arguing is that what Rhule is saying about how he wants to play is not congruent with what his historical performance has been. I'm unsure why that could be so triggering for many folks on here, but I suppose this is a sensitive bunch.

 

[Husker1]

College and pro are basically a different sport. Rhule's offenses haven't been great but there isn't really a need to make moronic comparisons to make that point

Got it - so a more accurate and "non-moronic" statistical representation would have been to just leave out all the bad stats and only include the good stats?

 

[Husker1]

I'm still lolling that you think you can put ppg from Carolina into the college equation & believe you're doing any kind of legitimate statistical summary.

Yes, Rhule has turned bad offenses into good offenses in both of his previous CFB stops, and has our offense up significantly as well.

Our offense is currently ranked 86th in the country according to SP+

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Got it - so a more accurate and "non-moronic" statistical representation would have been to just leave out all the bad stats and only include the good stats?

Lol no. It would be to acknowledge that the underlying data generating process is different and it'd be a potentially misleading representation of how his offenses have performed in college to include offenses that didn't perform in college.

 

[DrinkItIn]

Our offense is currently ranked 86th in the country according to SP+

Looking at Rhule's college offensive points per game (PPG) over the years, aside from Year 2 at Temple, his offenses consistently improved year after year. Are you suggesting that when Rhule transitioned from Temple to Baylor, the offensive numbers shouldn't have dipped, despite the entirely different program and circumstances?

The trend shows clear, year-over-year scoring progress, with the exception of that second year at Temple.

 

[Husker1]

Looking at Rhule's college offensive points per game (PPG) over the years, aside from Year 2 at Temple, his offenses consistently improved year after year. Are you suggesting that when Rhule transitioned from Temple to Baylor, the offensive numbers shouldn't have dipped, despite the entirely different program and circumstances?

The trend shows clear, year-over-year scoring progress, with the exception of that second year at Temple.

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Great chart and great point! I don’t think we should completely ignore his more recent history at Carolina (during which his offenses got worse) but your point is well taken. Will be interesting to see what Rhule’s offensive ceiling is. If he can consistently produce 30ppg+, that would put us in the top 50 nationally.

 

[Huskerscoop]

It will be very interesting in what Rhule does with the staff after this year as majority of the assistants contracts expire. Satt (hopefully he don't come back), TW, Glenn Thomas, and Butler have contracts that don't expire. The defensive staff most likely will be back. Hope he blows up the offensive staff.

 

[Chi7397]

Great chart and great point! I don’t think we should completely ignore his more recent history at Carolina (during which his offenses got worse) but your point is well taken. Will be interesting to see what Rhule’s offensive ceiling is. If he can consistently produce 30ppg+, that would put us in the top 50 nationally.

Using NFL anything to extrapolate to CFB stats is one of the dumbest takes I’ve seen on here in a while. As someone else noted, it’s basically a different sport….