“NFL-style”

[Alcaus]

Yes, Temple was very bad, then mediocre. At Baylor, very bad, then mediocre, then very bad again his last year. At Nebraska it was borderline bad last year, and very bad this year. Apparently his time at Carolina is completely irrelevant as I’ve been told by some very on-the-level guys that it’s not even the same sport. What’s your take on Rhule’s history with special teams?

What are you looking at to grade their special teams?

I think @Jim14510 PFF grades are a better gauge than me trusting your analysis unless you want to share how you’re grading these units.

I haven’t seen any stats but what we heard when he was hired was that special teams was a pretty good weapon for Rhule’s teams. Blocked kicks was a big emphasis and they were good in coverage. Foley’s credentials are great but it hasn’t translated at Nebraska.

 

[Kazman5k]

Gonna be a long bye week

 

[Husker1]

What are you looking at to grade their special teams?

I think @Jim14510 PFF grades are a better gauge than me trusting your analysis unless you want to share how you’re grading these units.

I haven’t seen any stats but what we heard when he was hired was that special teams was a pretty good weapon for Rhule’s teams. Blocked kicks was a big emphasis and they were good in coverage. Foley’s credentials are great but it hasn’t translated at Nebraska.

I used ESPN, but they don’t use an overall ST grade - they break down into kicking, returns, and punting. Don’t know if it factors in coverage

 

[Jim14510]

I used ESPN, but they don’t use an overall ST grade - they break down into kicking, returns, and punting. Don’t know if it factors in coverage

They have a special teams efficiency ranking.

Baylor
2019 - 93
2018 - 45
2017 - 24

Temple
2016 - 19
2015 - 53
2014 - 19
2013 - 82

Nebraska
2019 - 120
2018 - 67
2017 - 14
2016 - 44
2015 - 26
2014 - 1
2013 - 72

PFF Nebraska
2019 - 126
2018 - 119
2017 - 109
2016 - 17

I'm not sure what any of this tells you other than 2016 Temple seems to have been very good. Baylor 2017-2019 PFF and ESPN rankings move in opposite directions. Nebraska was #1 in something in 2014.

 

[HuskerDocCo]

What are you looking at to grade their special teams?

I think @Jim14510 PFF grades are a better gauge than me trusting your analysis unless you want to share how you’re grading these units.

I haven’t seen any stats but what we heard when he was hired was that special teams was a pretty good weapon for Rhule’s teams. Blocked kicks was a big emphasis and they were good in coverage. Foley’s credentials are great but it hasn’t translated at Nebraska.

you know Alky, I like it when the little alert button jiggles it reminds me of when my nut sack jiggles like a bowl full of jelly

 

[Husker1]

They have a special teams efficiency ranking.

Baylor
2019 - 93
2018 - 45
2017 - 24

Temple
2016 - 19
2015 - 53
2014 - 19
2013 - 82

Nebraska
2019 - 120
2018 - 67
2017 - 14
2016 - 44
2015 - 26
2014 - 1
2013 - 72

PFF Nebraska
2019 - 126
2018 - 119
2017 - 109
2016 - 17

I'm not sure what any of this tells you other than 2016 Temple seems to have been very good. Baylor 2017-2019 PFF and ESPN rankings move in opposite directions. Nebraska was #1 in something in 2014.

Was messing around on ChatGPT and got this re: Rhule's historical ST rankings. Don't know where it pulls from, so take with a grain of salt.

2013

• Punt Return Defense: Temple ranked 19th in the nation. The Owls were effective at limiting punt return yards, giving up an average of only 4.21 yards per return.
• Kickoff Return Defense: Temple ranked 31st in the nation, allowing an average of 19.9 yards per return.
• Punting: Temple ranked 92nd in net punting, with an average net punt of 35.44 yards.
• Field Goals: Temple ranked 81st in field goal percentage, making 66.7% of their attempts.
• Kickoff Returns: Temple ranked 122nd, averaging only 17.57 yards per return, which was one of the weakest areas on special teams.
• Punt Returns: Temple ranked 113th, averaging just 3.75 yards per return, which again showed the need for improvement in the return game

2014:

• Kickoff Returns:Temple ranked 3rd in the NCAA in kickoff return average with 26.5 yards per return
• Punt Returns: The team ranked 14th in the NCAA for punt return average at 11.4 yards per return.
• Field Goals:Temple’s field goal percentage ranked 38th nationally, with a success rate of 75.0%.
• Punting:The punting unit ranked 22nd in the NCAA, averaging 40.1 yards per punt
• Kick Coverage: Temple's kickoff coverage team also performed well, ranking 11th nationally, allowing only 18.4 yards per return.

2015:​

• Net Punting: Temple was ranked 8th nationally, continuing their strong punting game.
• Punt Returns: Ranked 12th in punt returns, averaging over 12 yards per return.
• Kickoff Returns: Temple was in the Top 20 nationally in kickoff returns, and Top 50 in kickoff coverage.
• Field Goal Percentage: Austin Jones had a solid year, with a 73% success rate.

2016:​

• Net Punting: Temple ranked 4th nationally with a net punting average of 41.9 yards per punt, which indicates excellent punting combined with strong punt coverage.
• Punt Returns: The punt return unit ranked 14th in the nation, averaging 12.1 yards per return, thanks to the efforts of players like Keith Kirkwood and others.
• Kickoff Returns: Temple was 10th nationally in kickoff returns, averaging 25.3 yards per return.
• Kickoff Coverage: Temple was ranked 33rd in the country, allowing only 19.5 yards per return, indicating a strong ability to limit opponents’ field position.
• Field Goal Percentage: The team converted around 79% of their field goals (19/24), showing reliability from kicker Austin Jones.

2017:​

• Punt Return: Baylor ranked 111th nationally, averaging 3.8 yards per return.
• Kickoff Return: Baylor ranked 83rd, averaging 19.8 yards per return.
• Punt Defense: Baylor allowed an average of 8.2 yards per return, ranking 89th.
• Kickoff Defense: Baylor allowed an average of 24.7 yards per return, ranking 121st nationally (among the worst).
• Field Goals: Connor Martin was the kicker, hitting 20 of 24 field goals, which gave Baylor a solid ranking.

2018:​

• Punt Return: Baylor ranked 112th, averaging 4.8 yards per return.
• Kickoff Return: Baylor improved to rank 36th, averaging 22.5 yards per return.
• Punt Defense: Baylor allowed an average of 5.9 yards per return, ranking 57th.
• Kickoff Defense: Baylor improved significantly to rank 51st, allowing 20.2 yards per return.
• Field Goals: Connor Martin had some struggles, going 16 of 27 in field goals.

2019:​

• Punt Return: Baylor ranked 87th, averaging 6.8 yards per return.
• Kickoff Return: Baylor ranked 15th nationally, averaging 24.3 yards per return.
• Punt Defense: Baylor was much improved, ranking 25th and allowing 4.3 yards per return.
• Kickoff Defense: Baylor ranked 33rd, allowing 18.6 yards per return.
• Field Goals: John Mayers became the primary kicker and made 16 of 19 field goals.

 

[LoudHogRider]

 

[Alcaus]

you know Alky, I like it when the little alert button jiggles it reminds me of when my nut sack jiggles like a bowl full of jelly

I know... but I should’ve let this one die, Doc.