Season turning from success to failure (3 Viewers)

[Cash68847]

Bill Busch kept saying 8-9 wins from the start. When he explained it the other day on the radio I understood what he was talking about even though 8-9 still meant everything had to go right in my view. His thinking was the schedule would be weak and he was right. He believed Rhule had more talent to work with than most think, and he also believed Rhule would put together a good staff to maximize the talent.

 

[Gman1228]

You're an idiot. Keep up. How is Casey supposed to compete when he is injured? This isn't Madden. It's not plug and play. There are risks to that.

You're such a simple minded thing.

If it’s simple minded to keep your current QB who can actually throw the ball over bringing in the most turnover player in the country then consider me simple minded.

 

[DrinkItIn]

Saying that “6” was always on the high end of expectations is absolutely bullshit. The Big Ten is a laughing stock this year, our schedule is a laughing stock. Why in the hell was 6 the expectation? These coaches made the decision to run off Casey when all they had to do was let him compete. We’ve fucked away a golden opportunity this year and again sucks.

Given that Vegas estimated the win total O/U at six, that was the expectation.

NU won a whole four games last year, with Casey Thompson throwing to an NFL-caliber receiver. Why would Casey be so great throwing to this less talented and very young receiving corps? Would his health hold up? He has always been injury-prone, and he lasted a whole four games this year. He was probably about to lose his job anyway.

Casey departed because he was unwilling to compete for a job. Casey was not popular in the locker room either, and due to NIL, he made a threat to skip last year's spring game. He wasn't well liked in Texas, either. There is a reason he ended up at FAU and not another high-level program. He and his dad are horrible to work with.

Therefore, trying to change the culture that Frost and his idiot assistant coaches created probably is not the best idea when rebuilding a program with a player who is not well liked by his teammates.

 

[Savedatmoney]

Given that Vegas estimated the win total O/U at six, that was the expectation.

NU won a whole four games last year, with Casey Thompson throwing to an NFL-caliber receiver. Why would Casey be so great throwing to this less talented and very young receiving corps? Would his health hold up? He has always been injury-prone, and he lasted a whole four games this year. He was probably about to lose his job anyway.

Casey departed because he was unwilling to compete for a job. Casey was not popular in the locker room either, and due to NIL, he made a threat to skip last year's spring game. He wasn't well liked in Texas, either. There is a reason he ended up at FAU and not another high-level program. He and his dad are horrible to work with.

Therefore, trying to change the culture that Frost and his idiot assistant coaches created probably is not the best idea when rebuilding a program with a player who is not well liked by his teammates.

CT wasn’t exactly the definition of ball security either. 10 picks last year

 

[ChocaEgg]

We absolutely won't be preseason ranked next year because it is obvious that we suck. Even Frost got us to the point of being ranked, that is my point. It wasn't all doom and gloom with him and the revisionist history of everyone acting like they knew he sucked right away is bullshit.

 

[Turn Down for What]

But but but a bowl game was an expectation this season.

 

[Gman1228]

Given that Vegas estimated the win total O/U at six, that was the expectation.

NU won a whole four games last year, with Casey Thompson throwing to an NFL-caliber receiver. Why would Casey be so great throwing to this less talented and very young receiving corps? Would his health hold up? He has always been injury-prone, and he lasted a whole four games this year. He was probably about to lose his job anyway.

Casey departed because he was unwilling to compete for a job. Casey was not popular in the locker room either, and due to NIL, he made a threat to skip last year's spring game. He wasn't well liked in Texas, either. There is a reason he ended up at FAU and not another high-level program. He and his dad are horrible to work with.

Therefore, trying to change the culture that Frost and his idiot assistant coaches created probably is not the best idea when rebuilding a program with a player who is not well liked by his teammates.

Casey was shown the door, ask around and you’ll find that he wasn’t given a chance to compete. Who cares if he wasn’t liked? This isn’t a popularity contest. They ran him off and left a room with Sims, Purdy & HH. That is a major red flag to me.

God forbid we go over that Vegas O/U, you know it is ok to set our own expectations around here and strive for more. Folks didn’t expect the Big Ten to be this bad either so hitting the over was ripe for the taking and we had a golden opportunity to do it.

 

[Savedatmoney]

But but but a bowl game was an expectation this season.

I’ll be honest- I thought 6 wins at the beginning of the year was a stretch. After starting 0-2, thought maybe 3-4 wins max.

We dodged a bullet with NWs starting QB out.

 

[Mavsker]

Given that Vegas estimated the win total O/U at six, that was the expectation.

NU won a whole four games last year, with Casey Thompson throwing to an NFL-caliber receiver. Why would Casey be so great throwing to this less talented and very young receiving corps? Would his health hold up? He has always been injury-prone, and he lasted a whole four games this year. He was probably about to lose his job anyway.

Casey departed because he was unwilling to compete for a job. Casey was not popular in the locker room either, and due to NIL, he made a threat to skip last year's spring game. He wasn't well liked in Texas, either. There is a reason he ended up at FAU and not another high-level program. He and his dad are horrible to work with.

Therefore, trying to change the culture that Frost and his idiot assistant coaches created probably is not the best idea when rebuilding a program with a player who is not well liked by his teammates.

Okay I hate that I have to defend G here but come on guys.

Saying that "6 was always on the high end of expectations" is absurd (I know that was Goskers). The Vegas line was 6.5, so 6 was a preseason under. 6 wasn't on the high end of predictions until after we'd lost to Minnesota/Minnesota+Colorado.

 

[IM4NUALWAYS]

Absurdities have crept in…and still this.

Da base is delusional.

So what, you thought we could win 8 or 9 amd go-to Indy in year 1?

 

[Dr.DrakeRamoray]

But but but a bowl game was an expectation this season.

Honestly point me to people who actually thought bowl was the expectation this year?

 

[Turn Down for What]

Honestly point me to people who actually thought bowl was the expectation this year?

I’m pointing to my left right now. That’s where my uncle is sitting.

 

[Scarlet ObsessioN]

A failure? Most reasonable fans thought 6 games and a bowl a pretty dam good goal.

Rhule and the staff are close to that with more injuries to starters than I ever ever in a season. Along with inheriting the shit show they did.

Even if we lose 2 more I think they have done a pretty good job.

I’ve always appreciated your optimism and I hate to see myself on the wrong side of it. I know those players are as crushed as anyone and Rhule is too. These coaches hate to lose so I am sure they are doing everything they can to win in the future. I’m rooting for them and I hope they get #6. Someone has to step up at QB one game and just play smart then take advantage of your great defense. GBR

 

[Ext. 55]

So what, you thought we could win 8 or 9 amd go-to Indy in year 1?

No. I’ve been consistent since spring ball.

6-6 team at best.

I was agreeing with you.

 

[Mavsker]

Honestly point me to people who actually thought bowl was the expectation this year?

75% of this board

theplatinumboard.com/threads/year-one-of-rhule-what’s-acceptable-to-you-call-it.11188/

 

[Tell_Sackett]

With how pathetic our schedule is this year if we lose out Rhule did a below average job all the way around. I didn’t think the BIG west was going to be this bad but it’s historically bad. It’s a mulligan year either way for Rhule, but the patience won’t be there for Rhule like it was for Frost. We have to get vastly better on offense next year or we won’t go bowling. We still have a shot this year, but we have to beat Wisconsin on the road. I don’t see any possible way we beat Cockeye with our shit offense.

The talk around 6 wins coming into the year was largely schedule driven, but you almost cannot draw up a better schedule in the BIG than how it turned out. We are completely dysfunctional offensively, obliterated by injuries, and should still arguably be 8-2 as our schedule turned out to be complete trash. They shit away Minny and Maryland and MSU was a toss up with a few calls that didn't go our way.

We could win 4 games next year and be a better team than we are now. And that won't go over well with anyone, fans or players alike. My fear is we may take a step back defensively, and we have few pieces to build an offense around. We desperately need to win 6 this year, get the bowl monkey off our back, get extra practice time, and be able to sell both "program momentum" and playing time in the portal.

 

[Ext. 55]

75% of this board

theplatinumboard.com/threads/year-one-of-rhule-what’s-acceptable-to-you-call-it.11188/

Didn’t realize there were that many meth heads on the board.

 

[Savedatmoney]

I’ll be honest- I thought 6 wins at the beginning of the year was a stretch. After starting 0-2, thought maybe 3-4 wins max.

We dodged a bullet with NWs starting QB out.

Didn’t mean this as a hindsight 20/20 guy. More shocked we are sitting at 5 wins.

 

[HerbRedman]

The talk around 6 wins coming into the year was largely schedule driven

My expectation was 6-6 this year. Rationale was that last year's shit show/chaotic situation was able to go 4-8 (w 2 B1G road wins). Rationale was that Rhule's superior coaching + easier schedule SHOULD yield a +2 in the W/L category.

In the end, two preseason predictions were WILDLY off:

1. Schedule turned out to be easier than even we predicted (plus)
2. Jeff Sims was way worse than anyone could have imagined** (minus)


There is a lot of 'I told you so's' going on now RE: preseason W/L predictions but you can't acknowledge one without the other (they kind of cancel each other out). Another two that cancel each other out:

3. Husker defense has way better players than we realized under Chin (plus)
4. Husker offense has worse skill position players than we thought + 7 key guys in offensive 2-deep got seriously injured (minus)


Again, my point is it's really hard to make an accurate W/L prediction when you have 4 things like this that we're so unexpected.

**He's even worse than @Cornicator said he'd be - Cornicator didn't say 33% of his drives would end in turnovers

 

[Tell_Sackett]

My expectation was 6-6 this year. Rationale was that last year's shit show/chaotic situation was able to go 4-8 (w 2 B1G road wins). Rationale was that Rhule's superior coaching + easier schedule SHOULD yield a +2 in the W/L category.

In the end, two preseason predictions were WILDLY off:

1. Schedule turned out to be easier than even we predicted (plus)
2. Jeff Sims was way worse than anyone could have imagined** (minus)


There is a lot of 'I told you so's' going on now RE: preseason W/L predictions but you can't acknowledge one without the other (they kind of cancel each other out). Another two that cancel each other out:

3. Husker defense has way better players than we realized under Chin (plus)
4. Husker offense has worse skill position players than we thought + 7 key guys in offensive 2-deep got seriously injured (minus)


Again, my point is it's really hard to make an accurate W/L prediction when you have 4 things like this that we're so unexpected.

**He's even worse than @Cornicator said he'd be - Cornicator didn't say 33% of his drives would end in turnovers

Sims has been a massive disappointment, but our schedule is one of the easiest in power 5 and our easiest in decades. I figured we'd end up at five or six wins coming into the year, but the depths of how terrible our schedule really turned out to be has frankly raised the bar in my mind. If we end the year with five wins, it will be a sizeable disappointment and that was not my sentiment at the beginning of the year.

We've played one great team, and arguably there's not another good team on our slate... Cockeye's current record notwithstanding, which benefits from the same trash schedule as we do.