Were you on the original hire Frost train?

[Skerz4Life50]

When Frost was hired, I was definitely excited as he was coming off his undefeated season. But, I was also of the view that I thought we should’ve waited at least 1 more year before hiring him because of his lack of experience. Yes, there were definite problems with that idea in that Frost was a hot commodity and likely would’ve gotten a P5 job somewhere else had we not hired him, and that it was clear Riley was not going to get it done here and needed to go.

I went back to some of my discussions of Frost on the Husker Free Board (hadn’t joined RSS at that time) and found these below. Kind of funny reading that now and seeing how things really haven’t changed that much, how we definitely over payed for Frost, and how the “double standards” I had mentioned seem to still be here.

Also I know this comes off as an “I told you so”, but it definitely isn’t intended that way. Just how it seems we are right back in the same situation. I am also completely fine with giving Frost another year, I am just hoping we get some assistants with extensive P5 experience.

 

[JankTheTank]

I wanted Frost, but I actually wanted Matt Campbell more for a lot of the reasons that were pointed out. At the time, Campbell had a couple P5 years to go with his G5 years and had Cockeye State already getting people's attention.

The Auburn game and the quick recruiting class that was assembled on paper then had me convinced we somehow had the next Urban Meyer.

 

[CornHub]

When Frost was hired, I was definitely excited as he was coming off his undefeated season. But, I was also of the view that I thought we should’ve waited at least 1 more year before hiring him because of his lack of experience. Yes, there were definite problems with that idea in that Frost was a hot commodity and likely would’ve gotten a P5 job somewhere else had we not hired him, and that it was clear Riley was not going to get it done here and needed to go.

I went back to some of my discussions of Frost on the Husker Free Board (hadn’t joined RSS at that time) and found these below. Kind of funny reading that now and seeing how things really haven’t changed that much, how we definitely over payed for Frost, and how the “double standards” I had mentioned seem to still be here.

Also I know this comes off as an “I told you so”, but it definitely isn’t intended that way. Just how it seems we are right back in the same situation. I am also completely fine with giving Frost another year, I am just hoping we get some assistants with extensive P5 experience.

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I guess I still don't have an issue with what he was paid. At the time we were trying to hire him at Nebraska so he didn't go to Florida. The biggest mistake was the extension Moos gave him.

 

[ChocaEgg]

I was. I thought we were destined to glory.

 

[Pipe Line]

135%. At the time, atleast in my mind, the Big Ten was "slow" on defense. I thought his offense light the world on fire against BIG defenses. I also hadn't considered the size and discipline differences between AAC defenses and BIG defenses. It's really words apart.

 

[Ext. 55]

When Frost was hired, I was definitely excited as he was coming off his undefeated season. But, I was also of the view that I thought we should’ve waited at least 1 more year before hiring him because of his lack of experience. Yes, there were definite problems with that idea in that Frost was a hot commodity and likely would’ve gotten a P5 job somewhere else had we not hired him, and that it was clear Riley was not going to get it done here and needed to go.

I went back to some of my discussions of Frost on the Husker Free Board (hadn’t joined RSS at that time) and found these below. Kind of funny reading that now and seeing how things really haven’t changed that much, how we definitely over payed for Frost, and how the “double standards” I had mentioned seem to still be here.

Also I know this comes off as an “I told you so”, but it definitely isn’t intended that way. Just how it seems we are right back in the same situation. I am also completely fine with giving Frost another year, I am just hoping we get some assistants with extensive P5 experience.

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Yes. But was worried about the hire because of who he was and the fact he would be to big to fail and kept around longer than should be if unsuccessful.

 

[Bootleg11]

I mean congrats on patting yourself on the back, but if they didn't hire Frost it would have been a disaster. The was coming off of an undefeated season, he played at Nebraska, is from Nebraska and every other school wanted him. Moos had to hire him.

I wanted Mike Gundy. I still want that crazy bastard. But they had to hire Frost.

 

[Skerz4Life50]

I guess I still don't have an issue with what he was paid. At the time we were trying to hire him at Nebraska so he didn't go to Florida. The biggest mistake was the extension Moos gave him.

I agree that money wasn’t a factor for the university. I just at the time thought it was odd we were willing to pay him more than coaches like Franklin, Gundy, Peterson, and Dantonio. I mean my point at the time was then why not just go for those “proven” coaches and offer them the same amount we were willing to offer Frost, who had less than 2 years of experience at a G5 school.

 

[nscottie]

I was never a Scott fan for personal reasons. Nothing to do with his coaching abilities.

 

[huskerj12]

Absolutely onboard. I remember in early 2017 hoping Riley would have enough "foundation building" success that he could give another year or two of 7-9 wins while Frost got some more experience at UCF. Then in my dream scenario Riley would retire and hand off a healthy program to a version of Frost who had gone through his growing pains and was about to skyrocket. But then when we spiraled like never before and Frost had unprecedented success, I was fully onboard with getting him here ASAP.

 

[CornHub]

I agree that money wasn’t a factor for the university. I just at the time thought it was odd we were willing to pay him more than coaches like Franklin, Gundy, Peterson, and Dantonio. I mean my point at the time was then why not just go for those “proven” coaches and offer them the same amount we were willing to offer Frost, who had less than 2 years of experience at a G5 school.

Because everyone thought Frost was the guy. None of those other coaches were even considered. We can see now $5 million definitely wouldn't have been enough for any of them.

 

[HuskerGarrett]

I was at the Angueser Busch brewery in St Louis when I heard he was hired and had a celebratory Budweiser. So yes I was pumped.

 

[Daddy]

I was pumped. I'm still on the Frost train but obviously this shit has hit a few bumps in the road.

 

[dsbigred1]

I whacked it to Moos' introductory press conference, so yes. I was on board.
Also, I couldn't care less about the "I told you so". You were right to have some skepticism, as everyone should with 90+% of hires. Several indicators have been there from early on that this staff could (and would) have issues here.

 

[Fargo Husker]

99.8% of the fan base were ecstatic to have him and most people who say they weren’t are lying.

 

[MtnHusker]

I had him #3 on my Wish List behind Chris Peterson & Dan Mullens. I was super pumped when we hired Scott as I thought his High Flying Offense would make the Defenses in the B1G struggle because of the speed differential. I still think it could work if properly run plus better play calling. Part of the excitement of Frost was that I figured if he had success he would stay here a long time as this was Home for him. Turns out I was partially right as even though we are losing at a record pace he has still been here for a long time. Opposite end of the spectrum from being afraid a coach would leave for greener pastures due to success.

I will say I was quite concerned when I heard he was bringing his whole staff with him. That shocked me and threw up a huge Red Flag. Coaching Matters. Reminded me of when Terry Allen was hired from Northern Cockeye to Kansas and brought basically his entire staff along. Heard how they really struggled with facing Big Boy Coaching plus didn't know how to recruit, evaluate, game plan, develop or make in game adjustments like was needed to be competitive at a Power5. KU Administration quickly figured out they were in way over their heads.

 

[huskermack]

I was pumped. I'm still on the Frost train but obviously this shit has hit a few bumps in the road.

Those are some big bumps.

 

[doublewing]

I was never a Scott fan for personal reasons. Nothing to do with his coaching abilities.

Same. I've always known him as being an arrogant prick but I thought that arrogance would translate into being a good head coach.

 

[Cash68847]

I wanted Frost, but I actually wanted Matt Campbell more for a lot of the reasons that were pointed out. At the time, Campbell had a couple P5 years to go with his G5 years and had Cockeyes State already getting people's attention.

The Auburn game and the quick recruiting class that was assembled on paper then had me convinced we somehow had the next Urban Meyer.

I wanted Frost or Campbell. The only thing that scared me about Frost was his defensive staff. It’s ironic they haven’t been the downfall of the team.

 

[Cash68847]

I mean congrats on patting yourself on the back, but if they didn't hire Frost it would have been a disaster. The was coming off of an undefeated season, he played at Nebraska, is from Nebraska and every other school wanted him. Moos had to hire him.

I wanted Mike Gundy. I still want that crazy bastard. But they had to hire Frost.

Hell, I would take Leach at this point. He wins everywhere and he is a crazier bastard.