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Week 1 Depth Chart vs UTEP + Game Week Notes, Odds & Ends

Cornicator said:
Do you know how many former FCS TEs have turned into multi-year Offensive Tackles at the NFL Level?

Its actually more than the number of former 5-Star HS tackles. I'm not saying Seagren is future NFL All-Pro. But I do know the kid has a freakish body at a hair under 6'7 with abs and an 84 inch wingspan that would've been 2nd at the 2024 NFL combine.

He's taller, bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic than Corcoran.
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I mean do you know how many haven't?

Look I hope he's better than Corc and beats him out because Corc is not good, but it'd be a pretty stinking rare event for a redshirt freshman walkon to not be total shit at left tackle.
 
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Bulldog10 said:
You’re going to need to post proof here. I have a very hard time believing the number of fcs tight ends playing tackle in the NFL, is higher than the number of HS five stars…. I still think Seagren is way better than people give him credit for.
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The current 5star offensive tackle to nfl success rate is 19%.

The current fcs to tight end to nfl success rate is 46%

The current non 5- star to nfl tackle success rate is 89%.

It's the most difficult position to predict from high school to nfl.

I can tell you right now that Seagren is a lot more athletic that Corcoran who had 34 offered out of high school.
 
Cornicator said:
Do you know how many former FCS TEs have turned into multi-year Offensive Tackles at the NFL Level?

Its actually more than the number of former 5-Star HS tackles. I'm not saying Seagren is future NFL All-Pro. But I do know the kid has a freakish body at a hair under 6'7 with abs and an 84 inch wingspan that would've been 2nd at the 2024 NFL combine.

He's taller, bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic than Corcoran.
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I challenge that.

AFC East
Buffalo Bill's OTs
Dion Dawkins - 5.4 2-star OG | 6'4" 320 | Temple (Ironically the first player I looked up played for Rhule...)
Spencer Brown - NA OT | 6'8 244 | Northern Cockeye

Miami Dolphin's OTs
Terron Armstead - NA OT | 6'5" 306 | Arkansas North-Pine
Austin Jackson - 5.9 4-star OT | 6'6" 270 | USC

New Englan Patriot's OTs
Chukwuma Okorafor - 5.6 3-star OT | 6'6" 285 | Western Michigan
Mike Onwenu - 5.9 4-star OG | 6'3" 367 | Michigan

New York Jet's OTs
Tyron Smith - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'5" 260 | USC
Morgan Moses - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'7" 347 | Virgina

AFC North
Baltimore Raven's OTs
Ronnie Stanley - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'7" 285 | Notre Dame
Patrick Mekari - 5.3 2-star OC | 6'5" 300 | Cal

Cincinnati Bengal's OTs
Orlando Brown Jr - 5.7 3-star OT | 6'7" 340 | Oklahoma
Trent Brown - 5.6 3-star OT | 6'8" 350 | Florida

Cleveland Brown's OTs
Jedrick Wills - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'4" 316 | Alabama
Jack Conklin - NA OT | 6'5" 285 | Michigan St (walk-on)

Pittsburgh Steeler's OTs
Dan Moore Jr - 5.5 3-star OG | 6'5" 316 | Texas A&M
Broderick Jones - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 300 | Georgia

AFC South
Houston Texan's OTs
Laremy Tunsil - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 295 | Ole Miss
Tytus Howard - NA TE | 6'5" 230 | Monroe County Christian

Indianapolis Colt's OTs
Bernhard Raimann - 5.2 2-star TE | 6'7" 225 | Central Michigan
Braden Smith - 6.0 4-star OG | 6'6" 275 | Auburn

Jacksonville Jaguar's OTs
Cam Robinson - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 320 | Alabama
Anton Harrison - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'5" 332 | Oklahoma

Tennessee Titan's OTs
JC Latham - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 310 | Alabama
Nicholas Petit-Frere - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'5" 265 | Ohio St

AFC West
Denver Bronco's OTs
Garett Bolles - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'6" 305 | Utah
Mike McGlinchey - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'9" 280 | Notre Dame

Kansas City Chief's OTs
Kingsley Suamataia - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 306 | Oregon
Jawaan Taylor - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'4" 345 | Florida

Las Vegas Raider's OTs
Kolton Miller - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'8" 290 | UCLA
Thayer Munford Jr. - 5.7 3-star OT | 6'6" 325 | Ohio St

Los Angeles Charger's OTs
Rashawn Slater - 5.6 3-star OG | 6'5" 275 | Northwestern
Joe Alt - 5.6 3-star OT | 6'7" 270 | Notre Dame

NFC East
Dallas Cowboy's OTs
Tyler Guyton - NA DT | 6'6" 275 | TCU (walk-on)
Terence Steele - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'5" 295 | Texas Tech

New York Giant's OTs
Andrew Thomas - 5.9 4-star OT | 6'5" 285 | Georgia
Jermaine Eluemunor - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'6" 300 | Texas A&M

Philadelphia Eagle's OTs
Jordan Mailata - NA OT | 6'8" 346 | Australia
Lane Johnson - NA TE | 6'6" 260 | Kilgore CC

Washington Commander's OTs
Brandon Coleman - NA OT | 6'5" 265 | Trinity Valley CC
Andrew Wylie - NA OT | 6'5" 275 | Eastern Michigan

NFC North
Chicago Bear's OTs
Braxton Jones - NA OT | 6'6" 265 | Southern Utah
Darnell Wright - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 300 | Tennessee

Detroit Lion's OTs
Taylor Decker - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'8" 313 | Ohio St
Penei Sewell - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'5" 340 | Oregon

Green Bay Packer's OTs
Rasheed Walker - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'6" 300 | Penn St
Zach Tom - 5.4 2-star OT | 6'4" 270 | Wake Forrest

Minnesota Viking's OTs
Christian Darrisaw - 5.4 2-star OT | 6'5" 290 | Virgina Tech
Brian O'Neill - 5.5 3-star TE | 6'6" 230 | PItt


NFC South
Atlanta Falcon's OTs
Jake Matthews - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'5" 275 | Texas A&M
Kaleb McGary - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'8" 270 | Washington

Carolina Panther's OTs
Ikem Ekwonu - 5.6 3-star OG | 6'4" 290 | NC St
Taylor Moton - 5.2 2-star OT | 6'6" 275 | Western Michigan

New Orleans Saint's OTs
Taliese Fuaga - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'6" 329 | Oregon St
Trevor Penning - NA OT | 6'6" 260 | Northern Cockeye

Tampa Bay Buccaneer's OTs
Tristan Wirfs - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'5" 308 | Cockeye
Luke Goedeke - NA OG | 6'5" 310 | Central Michigan

NFC West
Arizona Carinal's OTs
Paris Johnson Jr. - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'7" 295 | Ohio St
Jonah Williams - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'5" 280 | Alabama

Los Angeles Ram's OTs
Alaric Jackson - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'7" 285 | Cockeye
Rob Havenstein - 5.6 3-star OG | 6'7" 365 | Wisconsin

San Francisco 49er's OTs
Jaylon Moore - NA TE | 6'5" 260 | Central Michigan
Colton McKivitz - 5.4 2-star OT | 6'7" 265 | West Virginia

Seattle Seahawk's OTs
Charles Cross - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'5" 270 | Miss St
Abraham Lucas - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'8" 260 | Washington St

5-stars - 12
4-stars - 17
3-stars - 15
2-stars - 7
NA - 13

OTs - 49
OGs/OCs - 9
TEs - 5
DTs - 1

5-star OTs - 12
NA TEs - 3
 
Lionsfan93 said:
I challenge that.

AFC East
Buffalo Bill's OTs
Dion Dawkins - 5.4 2-star OG | 6'4" 320 | Temple (Ironically the first player I looked up played for Rhule...)
Spencer Brown - NA OT | 6'8 244 | Northern Cockeye

Miami Dolphin's OTs
Terron Armstead - NA OT | 6'5" 306 | Arkansas North-Pine
Austin Jackson - 5.9 4-star OT | 6'6" 270 | USC

New Englan Patriot's OTs
Chukwuma Okorafor - 5.6 3-star OT | 6'6" 285 | Western Michigan
Mike Onwenu - 5.9 4-star OG | 6'3" 367 | Michigan

New York Jet's OTs
Tyron Smith - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'5" 260 | USC
Morgan Moses - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'7" 347 | Virgina

AFC North
Baltimore Raven's OTs
Ronnie Stanley - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'7" 285 | Notre Dame
Patrick Mekari - 5.3 2-star OC | 6'5" 300 | Cal

Cincinnati Bengal's OTs
Orlando Brown Jr - 5.7 3-star OT | 6'7" 340 | Oklahoma
Trent Brown - 5.6 3-star OT | 6'8" 350 | Florida

Cleveland Brown's OTs
Jedrick Wills - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'4" 316 | Alabama
Jack Conklin - NA OT | 6'5" 285 | Michigan St (walk-on)

Pittsburgh Steeler's OTs
Dan Moore Jr - 5.5 3-star OG | 6'5" 316 | Texas A&M
Broderick Jones - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 300 | Georgia

AFC South
Houston Texan's OTs
Laremy Tunsil - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 295 | Ole Miss
Tytus Howard - NA TE | 6'5" 230 | Monroe County Christian

Indianapolis Colt's OTs
Bernhard Raimann - 5.2 2-star TE | 6'7" 225 | Central Michigan
Braden Smith - 6.0 4-star OG | 6'6" 275 | Auburn

Jacksonville Jaguar's OTs
Cam Robinson - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 320 | Alabama
Anton Harrison - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'5" 332 | Oklahoma

Tennessee Titan's OTs
JC Latham - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 310 | Alabama
Nicholas Petit-Frere - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'5" 265 | Ohio St

AFC West
Denver Bronco's OTs
Garett Bolles - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'6" 305 | Utah
Mike McGlinchey - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'9" 280 | Notre Dame

Kansas City Chief's OTs
Kingsley Suamataia - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 306 | Oregon
Jawaan Taylor - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'4" 345 | Florida

Las Vegas Raider's OTs
Kolton Miller - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'8" 290 | UCLA
Thayer Munford Jr. - 5.7 3-star OT | 6'6" 325 | Ohio St

Los Angeles Charger's OTs
Rashawn Slater - 5.6 3-star OG | 6'5" 275 | Northwestern
Joe Alt - 5.6 3-star OT | 6'7" 270 | Notre Dame

NFC East
Dallas Cowboy's OTs
Tyler Guyton - NA DT | 6'6" 275 | TCU (walk-on)
Terence Steele - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'5" 295 | Texas Tech

New York Giant's OTs
Andrew Thomas - 5.9 4-star OT | 6'5" 285 | Georgia
Jermaine Eluemunor - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'6" 300 | Texas A&M

Philadelphia Eagle's OTs
Jordan Mailata - NA OT | 6'8" 346 | Australia
Lane Johnson - NA TE | 6'6" 260 | Kilgore CC

Washington Commander's OTs
Brandon Coleman - NA OT | 6'5" 265 | Trinity Valley CC
Andrew Wylie - NA OT | 6'5" 275 | Eastern Michigan

NFC North
Chicago Bear's OTs
Braxton Jones - NA OT | 6'6" 265 | Southern Utah
Darnell Wright - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'6" 300 | Tennessee

Detroit Lion's OTs
Taylor Decker - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'8" 313 | Ohio St
Penei Sewell - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'5" 340 | Oregon

Green Bay Packer's OTs
Rasheed Walker - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'6" 300 | Penn St
Zach Tom - 5.4 2-star OT | 6'4" 270 | Wake Forrest

Minnesota Viking's OTs
Christian Darrisaw - 5.4 2-star OT | 6'5" 290 | Virgina Tech
Brian O'Neill - 5.5 3-star TE | 6'6" 230 | PItt


NFC South
Atlanta Falcon's OTs
Jake Matthews - 6.0 4-star OT | 6'5" 275 | Texas A&M
Kaleb McGary - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'8" 270 | Washington

Carolina Panther's OTs
Ikem Ekwonu - 5.6 3-star OG | 6'4" 290 | NC St
Taylor Moton - 5.2 2-star OT | 6'6" 275 | Western Michigan

New Orleans Saint's OTs
Taliese Fuaga - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'6" 329 | Oregon St
Trevor Penning - NA OT | 6'6" 260 | Northern Cockeye

Tampa Bay Buccaneer's OTs
Tristan Wirfs - 5.8 4-star OT | 6'5" 308 | Cockeye
Luke Goedeke - NA OG | 6'5" 310 | Central Michigan

NFC West
Arizona Carinal's OTs
Paris Johnson Jr. - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'7" 295 | Ohio St
Jonah Williams - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'5" 280 | Alabama

Los Angeles Ram's OTs
Alaric Jackson - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'7" 285 | Cockeye
Rob Havenstein - 5.6 3-star OG | 6'7" 365 | Wisconsin

San Francisco 49er's OTs
Jaylon Moore - NA TE | 6'5" 260 | Central Michigan
Colton McKivitz - 5.4 2-star OT | 6'7" 265 | West Virginia

Seattle Seahawk's OTs
Charles Cross - 6.1 5-star OT | 6'5" 270 | Miss St
Abraham Lucas - 5.5 3-star OT | 6'8" 260 | Washington St

5-stars - 12
4-stars - 17
3-stars - 15
2-stars - 7
NA - 13

OTs - 49
OGs/OCs - 9
TEs - 5
DTs - 1

5-star OTs - 12
NA TEs - 3
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Honestly surprised there were 3.
 
Cornicator said:
The current 5star offensive tackle to nfl success rate is 19%.

The current fcs to tight end to nfl success rate is 46%

The current non 5- star to nfl tackle success rate is 89%.

It's the most difficult position to predict from high school to nfl.

I can tell you right now that Seagren is a lot more athletic that Corcoran who had 34 offered out of high school.
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I'm missing something here. No way do 46% of FCS TEs that end up playing OT in college go on to play in the NFL.

No idea what non 5 star to NFL tackle success rate means. No way do 89% of the 2, 3, and 4 star OTs play in the NFL.

I believe you 1, 4, and 5 sentences, but now way are 2 and 3 right the way they are written. I assume something is lost in translation.
 
Jim14510 said:
Throwing a guess of an average of 4 5 star OT's per class (seems high but makes the math easy) over 12 years that's a 25% hit rate. I'd guess that's on the high side by position.

Of course I'm just making up numbers like @Cornicator
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Rivals has had 111 5-star OL in 25 years. So your guess wasn't too far off, but actually a little low.
 
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