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[BorWhiskey]

This is an eyeroll. I listened to this live. The guy asks the question "if Scott Frost was black, would he still have a job here?" 99.9% of coaches would be fired with Scott's record. The only reason he's here is because of the Nebraska swamp. His white skin isn't saving him any more than Mike Riley's white skin saved him.

Saying that he's showing favoritism on the offensive line, I guess some people are taking that to mean he was implying racism on the part of the staff? But the only example he could name of a minority player who should have played and didn't was Rahmir - how was it racist that Rahmir didn't play? Considering the players who played in his position were Anthony Grant and Jaquez Yant.

No substance to this whatsoever except from people whose worldview requires them to see racism in anyone and anything vaguely conservative.

This may have been pointed out but that caller was Kevin Williams dad.

 

[ChocaEgg]

This may have been pointed out but that caller was Kevin Williams dad.

Dayyyum did not know that

 

[ChocaEgg]

 

[BorWhiskey]

Jeff Brohm. Is this really a debate?

 

[Mavsker]

What accusation? You talking about what the radio guy said?

Uhhh yeah, the subtle accusation of racism that you posted here, regarding the radio call. I figured that was evident since that's the post I replied to.

Also did you have any example of a recruit choosing another program because of our staff's political opinions? You seemed very confident this was happening.

 

[Jim14510]

This may have been pointed out but that caller was Kevin Williams dad.

 

[Chi7397]

To b

Uhhh yeah, the subtle accusation of racism that you posted here, regarding the radio call. I figured that was evident since that's the post I replied to.

Also did you have any example of a recruit choosing another program because of our staff's political opinions? You seemed very confident this was happening.

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To be fair, there’s a gap between our coach being MAGA / Alt Righr is used successfully against us in recruiting and a player chose another program because of our coaches political beliefs.

Recruiting decisions involve a lot of factors, I 100% believe other coaches bring it up and I 100% believe it has some impact on 18 year olds who don’t lean that way politically, even if it’s just thrown into the mix

 

[ChocaEgg]

Uhhh yeah, the subtle accusation of racism that you posted here, regarding the radio call. I figured that was evident since that's the post I replied to.

Also did you have any example of a recruit choosing another program because of our staff's political opinions? You seemed very confident this was happening.

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If that's what the guy was insinuating then I'd have to imagine he's pretty confident in what he's saying. Idk, I don't personally see Frost being a racist, but it wouldn't blow my mind to learn that he's said or done questionable things when it comes to that subject.

I don't remember who exactly was on the visit(s). if I can find the message I miiiiiiiight put it in the VIP section. Not sure I'd be too comfortable dropping names though considering the moles we've apparently got.

 

[ChocaEgg]

To b

To be fair, there’s a gap between our coach being MAGA / Alt Righr is used successfully against us in recruiting and a player chose another program because of our coaches political beliefs.

Recruiting decisions involve a lot of factors, I 100% believe other coaches bring it up and I 100% believe it has some impact on 18 year olds who don’t lean that way politically, even if it’s just thrown into the mix

 

[Mavsker]

If that's what the guy was insinuating then I'd have to imagine he's pretty confident in what he's saying. Idk, I don't personally see Frost being a racist, but it wouldn't blow my mind to learn that he's said or done questionable things when it comes to that subject.

I don't remember who exactly was on the visit(s). if I can find the message I miiiiiiiight put it in the VIP section. Not sure I'd be too comfortable dropping names though considering the moles we've apparently got.

For what it's worth I don't think you have anything. But if Frost or his staff have done anything racist, air it out. If not, don't make the accusation, or go along with it.

I think this person on Twitter (and you to a certain extent, by reposting it here and seeming to believe it's true) was doing the typical thing where they vaguely accuse someone of being racist without being able to back it up at all with evidence, and then when called out on it, act like it's not that big of a deal. It is a big deal. It can ruin a person's career. But it's also harmful to minorities in that it waters down the accusation of racism to the point it longer means anything, and we have a boy who cried wolf situation where actual racists get to hide in the shadows. Let's not do that.

 

[huskermack]

 

[ChocaEgg]

For what it's worth I don't think you have anything. But if Frost or his staff have done anything racist, air it out. If not, don't make the accusation, or go along with it.

I think this person on Twitter (and you to a certain extent, by reposting it here and seeming to believe it's true) was doing the typical thing where they vaguely accuse someone of being racist without being able to back it up at all with evidence, and then when called out on it, act like it's not that big of a deal. It is a big deal. It can ruin a person's career (which I'm sure is the whole goal). But it's also harmful to minorities in that it waters down the accusation of racism to the point it longer means anything, and we have a boy who cried wolf situation where actual racists get to hide in the shadows. Let's not do that.

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Do you even read, bro?

 

[Mavsker]

Do you even read, bro?

Is this not exactly what you're doing? Reposting a Twitter thread vaguely accusing our staff of racism without evidence, then saying you would't be surprised that it's true. One shouldn't vaguely accuse people of disgusting things without evidence.

Probably a conversation better suited for the Hyvee Parking Lot. Just pisses me off how easily some people make these sorts of accusations and then act it's no big deal.

 

[Jim14510]

It can ruin a person's career.

Tbf his career is ruined already and it doesn't have anything to do with racism.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Is this not exactly what you're doing? Reposting a Twitter thread vaguely accusing our staff of racism without evidence, then saying you would't be surprised that it's true. One shouldn't vaguely accuse people of disgusting things without evidence.

Probably a conversation better suited for the Hyvee Parking Lot. Just pisses me off how easily some people make these sorts of accusations and then act it's no big deal.

I clearly stated that I don't believe he's a racist. Saying or doing questionable things or whatever may be seen as racist by some does not mean a person is in fact racist. Not sure why you have such a hard time comprehending that.

This is something that may directly affect our football program, so that's why it is posted here and not in Hy-Vee. If the subject is too sensitive for you then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Mavsker]

I clearly stated that I don't believe he's a racist. Saying or doing questionable things or whatever may be seen as racist by some does not mean a person is in fact racist. Not sure why you have such a hard time comprehending that.

This is something that may directly affect our football program, so that's why it is posted here and not in Hy-Vee. If the subject is too sensitive for you then I don't know what to tell you.

I don't think the plausible deniability thing works for you here. You reposted the accusation, said you wouldn't be surprised if the accusation was true, and liked a post calling Frost MAGA/Alt Right.

You didn't clearly state you don't believe he's a racist, you said "Idk, I don't personally see Frost being a racist, but it wouldn't blow my mind to learn that he's said or done questionable things when it comes to that subject", and then implied you have evidence of a recruit choosing another school because of our staff's racism and/or political opinions.

You're doing the exact thing in the meme.

 

[Jim14510]

I've been meaning to get this off my chest guys. I'm a yuuuuge racist. I think all minorities including Jews are lesser people than white males.

My evidence is that I'm the greatest human that ever existed. Therefore, white males are superior to everyone. You can't argue with this logic.

 

[ChocaEgg]

I don't think the plausible deniability thing works for you here. You reposted the accusation, said you wouldn't be surprised if the accusation was true, and liked a post calling Frost MAGA/Alt Right.

You didn't clearly state you don't believe he's a racist, you said "Idk, I don't personally see Frost being a racist, but it wouldn't blow my mind to learn that he's said or done questionable things when it comes to that subject", and then implied you have evidence of a recruit choosing other schools because of our staff's racism and/or political opinions.

You're doing the exact thing in the meme and trying to act like it's not a big deal.

I mean it's a fact that some of the coaches including Frost had lots of MAGA/alt right shit scrubbed from their Twitter follows. There's no disputing that.

So you think anyone that has ever said or done something questionable when it comes to race is a racist? Hate to break it to you, but that's not the case.

As for the MAGA/anti-BLM stuff during the recruit visits, it's something I heard from a few people. I really don't give a flying fuck if you believe it or not - not my problem if you can't handle the subject.

 

[Mavsker]

I mean it's a fact that some of the coaches including Frost had lots of MAGA/alt right shit scrubbed from their Twitter follows. There's no disputing that.

So you think anyone that has ever said or done something questionable when it comes to race is a racist? Hate to break it to you, but that's not the case.

As for the MAGA/anti-BLM stuff during the recruit visits, it's something I heard from a few people. I really don't give a flying fuck if you believe it or not - not my problem if you can't handle the subject.

Well I'm sure of one thing. If we'd landed all these recruits we lost because Frost is alt-right, we'd have made a bowl by now.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Jim invited me to a Proud Boys meeting. He's despicable