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Son of a bitch

Boondock_St_Sker said:
Finished 9-20 for 101 no TDs
13 for 52yds 1 TD rushing

he still sucks…just not as much
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He has a much better coach and a better team around him. He needs to be a manager and that’s it. The big question is will he take care of the ball against the better teams he plays. Either way he will make a bowl and have a better season than Frost.
 
Pipe Line said:
I mean great but they just whipped an SEC team 40-6. We had a 3 quarter battle with Buffalo
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First off Missouri is fucking terrible. Vanderbilt is an SEC team too. I bet Vandy beats Missouri. Second him handing the ball off and getting more yards than when he handed it off at Nebraska or defense holding teams to less points has absolutely nothing to do with Martinez.
 
Jim14510 said:
First off Missouri is fucking terrible. Vanderbilt is an SEC team too. I bet Vandy beats Missouri. Second him handing the ball off and getting more yards than when he handed it off at Nebraska or defense holding teams to less points has absolutely nothing to do with Martinez.
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Can you just let me be irritated that I was so excited we had Frost back in 2018 but seems 95% of the players that leave our program in the last 5 years have immediate success elsewhere?
 
Jim14510 said:
That's actually worse than most of his games for Nebraska. Even with no turnovers.
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It’s better in a way. At Nebraska it all revolved around him, so his stats were inflated, but the team sucked, so he was fucked. He is in a good situation at k-state. He has others to rely on and his athleticism can help them.
 
Jim14510 said:
First off Missouri is fucking terrible. Vanderbilt is an SEC team too. I bet Vandy beats Missouri. Second him handing the ball off and getting more yards than when he handed it off at Nebraska or defense holding teams to less points has absolutely nothing to do with Martinez.
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Mizzou isn’t a very good team but they still have some talent and made a bowl last year. Having said that I don’t have a clue if they brought anyone back.
 
Cash68847 said:
It’s better in a way. At Nebraska it all revolved around him, so his stats were inflated, but the team sucked, so he was fucked. He is in a good situation at k-state. He has others to rely on and his athleticism can help them.
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This is what you said.

He played better because he sucked more but people around him played better.
 
Jim14510 said:
This is what you said.

He played better because he sucked more but people around him played better.
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I honestly don’t think anyone can say much one way or another about him yet. Let’s see him play the better big 12 teams. If they end up winning 9-10 games and he is the starter, he was a success. I don’t give a shit what the stats say. If they win their normal 7-8, I guess it proves he wasn’t much of an improvement over the the other qbs ksu has ran out there.
 
Cash68847 said:
I honestly don’t think anyone can say much one way or another about him yet. Let’s see him play the better big 12 teams. If they end up winning 9-10 games and he is the starter, he was a success. I don’t give a shit what the stats say. If they win their normal 7-8, I guess it proves he wasn’t much of an improvement over the the other qbs ksu has ran out there.
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For the most part I agree. Stats do mean something though. It's not like he's calling plays. It tells you that he still sucks. The team is just better and he didn't cost the team enough to lose.
 
Jim14510 said:
For the most part I agree. Stats do mean something though. It's not like he's calling plays. It tells you that he still sucks. The team is just better and he didn't cost the team enough to lose.
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He does have Kade Warner as one of his main receivers, so it’s not like they are killing it with receiving talent. They are built more to run the ball and his legs are going to be as important as anything. By the way I’m not a big Martinez guy. I’m just being open minded because Frost was his coach for four years and I still think he was the main problem.
 
Cash68847 said:
He does have Kade Warner as one of his main receivers, so it’s not like they are killing it with receiving talent. They are built more to run the ball and his legs are going to be as important as anything. By the way I’m not a big Martinez guy. I’m just being open minded because Frost was his coach for four years and I still think he was the main problem.
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Yeah. Martinez sucking and Frost being terrible can both be true.
 
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