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JankTheTank

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Something I've been chewing on is how they did it at Baylor.

Rhule had George Deleone coach the OL his last year at Temple and his first year at Baylor. That was a seasoned OL coach. When Deleone hung up his spurs after 2017, Rhule promoted Shawn Bell from his analyst position to coach the OL. Before his time at Baylor, Bell was a high school head coach at a couple different schools. While he reportedly has a good offensive pedigree at the high school ranks, he was a QB in college and had no other experience with offensive line coaching aside from whatever he picked up during his time coaching high school and whatever he picked up from Deleone the previous year.

Apparently Deloene stayed on as a consultant and helped Bell out to an extent, but the OL was otherwise assigned to the greenest college coach on the staff.

This was also the same year Rhule replaced Elijah Robinson with a coach who only had two years of assistant coaching experience coaching the DL at Rice along with two years as a GA. Somehow Baylor improved the next two seasons despite having both of their lines coached by some SUPER GREEN coaches. Along with that, the only prior experience either of them had with Rhule was Bell's prior year as a Baylor analyst.

There is some magic fairy dust or some method of management (maybe some micromanagement) that Rhule seems to be successful applying to his assistants. If a Shawn Bell situation happened here, we would riot. Raiola easily has more OL experience than Bell, actually was an offensive lineman, and had his own tutelage done under Harry Hiestand.

This is so weird to feel like Rhule operates in bizarro world where it seems like he's violated a lot of head coach common sense in some hiring and recruiting principles. Yet the mad scientist seems to have figured out some long lost alchemy to make it all equate to results.

Deloene retired after 2017. Bell is still coaching at Baylor. Aranda moved him to tight ends initially before moving him to QBs in 2021.

Rhule's first OL coach at Temple was Chris Weisman, who is currently still there and now the run game coordinator as well. But he did make a pit stop coaching tight ends at special teams at Georgia Tech under... Geoff Collins...
 

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Something I've been chewing on is how they did it at Baylor.

Rhule had George Deleone coach the OL his last year at Temple and his first year at Baylor. That was a seasoned OL coach. When Deleone hung up his spurs after 2017, Rhule promoted Shawn Bell from his analyst position to coach the OL. Before his time at Baylor, Bell was a high school head coach at a couple different schools. While he reportedly has a good offensive pedigree at the high school ranks, he was a QB in college and had no other experience with offensive line coaching aside from whatever he picked up during his time coaching high school and whatever he picked up from Deleone the previous year.

Apparently Deloene stayed on as a consultant and helped Bell out to an extent, but the OL was otherwise assigned to the greenest college coach on the staff.

This was also the same year Rhule replaced Elijah Robinson with a coach who only had two years of assistant coaching experience coaching the DL at Rice along with two years as a GA. Somehow Baylor improved the next two seasons despite having both of their lines coached by some SUPER GREEN coaches. Along with that, the only prior experience either of them had with Rhule was Bell's prior year as a Baylor analyst.

There is some magic fairy dust or some method of management (maybe some micromanagement) that Rhule seems to be successful applying to his assistants. If a Shawn Bell situation happened here, we would riot. Raiola easily has more OL experience than Bell, actually was an offensive lineman, and had his own tutelage done under Harry Hiestand.

This is so weird to feel like Rhule operates in bizarro world where it seems like he's violated a lot of head coach common sense in some hiring and recruiting principles. Yet the mad scientist seems to have figured out some long lost alchemy to make it all equate to results.

Deloene retired after 2017. Bell is still coaching at Baylor. Aranda moved him to tight ends initially before moving him to QBs in 2021.

Rhule's first OL coach at Temple was Chris Weisman, who is currently still there and now the run game coordinator as well. But he did make a pit stop coaching tight ends at special teams at Georgia Tech under... Geoff Collins...
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Something I've been chewing on is how they did it at Baylor.

Rhule had George Deleone coach the OL his last year at Temple and his first year at Baylor. That was a seasoned OL coach. When Deleone hung up his spurs after 2017, Rhule promoted Shawn Bell from his analyst position to coach the OL. Before his time at Baylor, Bell was a high school head coach at a couple different schools. While he reportedly has a good offensive pedigree at the high school ranks, he was a QB in college and had no other experience with offensive line coaching aside from whatever he picked up during his time coaching high school and whatever he picked up from Deleone the previous year.

Apparently Deloene stayed on as a consultant and helped Bell out to an extent, but the OL was otherwise assigned to the greenest college coach on the staff.

This was also the same year Rhule replaced Elijah Robinson with a coach who only had two years of assistant coaching experience coaching the DL at Rice along with two years as a GA. Somehow Baylor improved the next two seasons despite having both of their lines coached by some SUPER GREEN coaches. Along with that, the only prior experience either of them had with Rhule was Bell's prior year as a Baylor analyst.

There is some magic fairy dust or some method of management (maybe some micromanagement) that Rhule seems to be successful applying to his assistants. If a Shawn Bell situation happened here, we would riot. Raiola easily has more OL experience than Bell, actually was an offensive lineman, and had his own tutelage done under Harry Hiestand.

This is so weird to feel like Rhule operates in bizarro world where it seems like he's violated a lot of head coach common sense in some hiring and recruiting principles. Yet the mad scientist seems to have figured out some long lost alchemy to make it all equate to results.

Deloene retired after 2017. Bell is still coaching at Baylor. Aranda moved him to tight ends initially before moving him to QBs in 2021.

Rhule's first OL coach at Temple was Chris Weisman, who is currently still there and now the run game coordinator as well. But he did make a pit stop coaching tight ends at special teams at Georgia Tech under... Geoff Collins...
Yep. This is a great point. Rhule is detailed, a fast talker, and has high expectations.

He’s a good man but also capable of being cutthroat when he needs to be. His greatest asset could very well be knowing when he needs to be nurturing and when he needs to be a hard ass. The best leaders have that ability.

If he hires assistants who he trusts will be obedient and hardworking, I think he knows he can get the most out of them.
 

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Yep. This is a great point. Rhule is detailed, a fast talker, and has high expectations.

He’s a good man but also capable of being cutthroat when he needs to be. His greatest asset could very well be knowing when he needs to be nurturing and when he needs to be a hard ass. The best leaders have that ability.

If he hires assistants who he trusts will be obedient and hardworking, I think he knows he can get the most out of them.
Good pts.

TBH I think NU fans are out of sorts after the Frost debacle. They're going overboard basically blaming Frost's failure on his JV staff. Now, the staff was JV. But at this point, I think we've learned enough about Frost to know that his failures were MOSTLY on him, not his staff. Frost was a terrible leader and terrible developer of people.

Bc of Frost's JV staff, now NU taters are thinking that we need to hire Super Bowl OL coaches and Hall of Fame LB coaches, etc. It doesn't work that way. ALL good staffs are going to have some young, hungry, unproven guys.

The funny thing about Frost's JV staff was, look at their first year in 2018: that was actually Frost's best team. The offense was balanced. QB play was best of the 4 seasons. Defense was spotty but it performed well enough to (potentially) beat OSU on the road, Cockeye on the road, NW on the road, along w the wins vs Michigan St, Minnesota, Illinois. If you got the Akron game & Martinez doesn't get injured you probably have a much better year, record wise.

Listen, I DETEST many of those JV staffers. But even as shitty as those guys were, they probably would have developed had they been working for a HC who gave a fuck about development (Held & Mario GTFO of course). Matt Rhule probably would have developed that JV staff after that 2018 season. There were at least some positives to build on.
 

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