North Platte HS Football

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Officiating that offense sucks.

Coaches are good guys. Liked having their sideline. Seemed well coached.

 

[slattimer]

Officiating that offense sucks.

Go on....I'd like to hear about this

 

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Go on....I'd like to hear about this

From a white hat, back judge, or umpire it's OK because you're watching keys, not having to find ball like line of scrimmage official.

I had them twice two years ago in Lincoln. One as umpire one as line of scrimmage. Umpire was easy, line of scrimmage sucked.

On the line it's hard to watch loop/twirl/orbit motion man for any sort of illegal motion, shift, or false start, while still watching oline/WR for false starts. That loop/twirl/orbit motion man might reset and he or another man motions a second time.

Hardest part from sideline is picking up the ball and who got the handoff, especially with that loop/twirl/orbit motion away from you, because if he gets it, you can't see front of player, just his back. 2 or 3 possible guys getting the ball every play. Add in if faked out from sideline, might not see progress or fumble/down. Most of the time I never blew my whistle, just let play finish on its own.

 

[God is a Husker]

From a white hat, back judge, or umpire it's OK because you're watching keys, not having to find ball like line of scrimmage official.

I had them twice two years ago in Lincoln. One as umpire one as line of scrimmage. Umpire was easy, line of scrimmage sucked.

On the line it's hard to watch loop/twirl/orbit motion man for any sort of illegal motion, shift, or false start, while still watching oline/WR for false starts. That loop/twirl/orbit motion man might reset and he or another man motions a second time.

Hardest part from sideline is picking up the ball and who got the handoff, especially with that loop/twirl/orbit motion away from you, because if he gets it, you can't see front of player, just his back. 2 or 3 possible guys getting the ball every play. Add in if faked out from sideline, might not see progress or fumble/down. Most of the time I never blew my whistle, just let play finish on its own.

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[slattimer]

From a white hat, back judge, or umpire it's OK because you're watching keys, not having to find ball like line of scrimmage official.

I had them twice two years ago in Lincoln. One as umpire one as line of scrimmage. Umpire was easy, line of scrimmage sucked.

On the line it's hard to watch loop/twirl/orbit motion man for any sort of illegal motion, shift, or false start, while still watching oline/WR for false starts. That loop/twirl/orbit motion man might reset and he or another man motions a second time.

Hardest part from sideline is picking up the ball and who got the handoff, especially with that loop/twirl/orbit motion away from you, because if he gets it, you can't see front of player, just his back. 2 or 3 possible guys getting the ball every play. Add in if faked out from sideline, might not see progress or fumble/down. Most of the time I never blew my whistle, just let play finish on its own.

What are you thoughts on the low block/chop clarification. Feel like it clears it up and will benefit those flexbone style teams that are really good hitting their scoops.

 

[Cash68847]

Know the HC from days in KS. Really good S&C guy IMO. Flexbone team. He's more defensive minded. He's a good dude.

Harding university is who helped them incorporate their offense. It’s crazy they went from Bernie’s wide open passing attack to the flexbone. It seems like they made the right choice.

 

[Bootleg11]

Harding university is who helped them incorporate their offense. It’s crazy they went from Bernie’s wide open passing attack to the flexbone. It seems like they made the right choice.

I understand flexbone, even played a year in it in college. I get why military schools run it and think more colleges that are incapable of recruiting athletes similar to their conference foes should consider flex bone offenses (Duke, Vandy etc)

The thing that I don’t like about the flex bone, particular in high school is usually the teams I see running flex bone are dead in the water on 3rd and 7+ and are completely inept and without answers in late game need points situations.

I also worry about HS kids who are college type offensive guys being underdeveloped for college football where they’ll likely not play in a flex bone offense. Seems like they would be at a disadvantage in recruiting. Especially at QB, WR and offensive line.

 

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What are you thoughts on the low block/chop clarification. Feel like it clears it up and will benefit those flexbone style teams that are really good hitting their scoops.

I like both high school and college changes

2021, in high school the low block must happen at the snap without delay. That was always a struggle, what is a "delay". Like thousand 1 or 2 and low or thousand 3?

College I really like the change. There were too many exceptions and rules to the low block. The most missed low block was backside lineman on 2nd level player. Umpire is moving playside blocks and no one is watching those blocks. Might see end result of the block, now that is easy to flag because you don't have to worry about those exceptions. This rule eliminates that block completely.

 

[Bootleg11]

I like both high school and college changes

2021, in high school the low block must happen at the snap without delay. That was always a struggle, what is a "delay". Like thousand 1 or 2 and low or thousand 3?

College I really like the change. There were too many exceptions and rules to the low block. The most missed low block was backside lineman on 2nd level player. Umpire is moving playside blocks and no one is watching those blocks. Might see end result of the block, now that is easy to flag because you don't have to worry about those exceptions. This rule eliminates that block completely.

I get the safety issue but I think DBs should still be able to take on an offensive linemen low.

I’m sure officials love the rule of no cut blocks. Takes out some subjectivity.

 

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I get the safety issue but I think DBs should still be able to take on an offensive linemen low.

I’m sure officials love the rule of no cut blocks. Takes out some subjectivity.

In college, I don't think they touched the defender going low portion of the low block. Defense can go low within 5 yards of line of scrimmage.

 

[djw004]

20 years ago they had a guy by the name of Danny Woodhead who was pretty decent.

Where’d he ever end up? Just kidding

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Played against him my sophomore year - like 3rd game of the year and he already had 3 return TDs. I was on kick coverage - I got blocked to the ground was getting up and ole Danny tripped over me. "#21 with the tackle on Woodhead" goes over the loud speaker and I said "Welcome to Fremont, bitch"

I made the last line up - but yes, I tackled an NFL running back...light work.

 

[Bootleg11]

Garden Plain KS has officially hired North Plattes coach Todd Rice.

@Cash68847 your buddy have a chance to get the HC job now?

 

[Cash68847]

Garden Plain KS has officially hired North Plattes coach Todd Rice.

@Cash68847 your buddy have a chance to get the HC job now?

He said he was thinking about quitting and taking over a district selling seed.

 

[Bootleg11]

He said he was thinking about quitting and taking over a district selling seed.

I’ve heard demographic changes are coming out there and may be tough for a while

 

[#HBD]

Garden Plain KS has officially hired North Plattes coach Todd Rice.

@Cash68847 your buddy have a chance to get the HC job now?

He said he was thinking about quitting and taking over a district selling seed.

I’ve heard demographic changes are coming out there and may be tough for a while

Lots of chatter around North Platte giving up football and replacing it with futbol.

 

[Cash68847]

Lots of chatter around North Platte giving up football and replacing it with futbol.

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They probably will when the meat packing plant goes in.

 

[doublewing]

I understand flexbone, even played a year in it in college. I get why military schools run it and think more colleges that are incapable of recruiting athletes similar to their conference foes should consider flex bone offenses (Duke, Vandy etc)

The thing that I don’t like about the flex bone, particular in high school is usually the teams I see running flex bone are dead in the water on 3rd and 7+ and are completely inept and without answers in late game need points situations.

I also worry about HS kids who are college type offensive guys being underdeveloped for college football where they’ll likely not play in a flex bone offense. Seems like they would be at a disadvantage in recruiting. Especially at QB, WR and offensive line.

I loved the traditional flexbone since I played it growing up and my Dad used to coach it. I miss watching Georgia Tech run it as they were the only P5 still doing it.

Agreed with the passing limitations. I liked what Georgia Southern was running out of the shotgun for their triple option. It opened up more passing options. They recently changed coaches so not sure if we'll see the triple in Lincoln next season.