Missing submersible

[Toe]

And that's just at 1275 feet. Per that James Cameron clip above, they were at 3500 meters, or about 11,500 feet.

 

[Red Dog]

The son of the CEO has been absolutely hilarious during this. Publicly posted about going to a blink-182 concert while his dad is missing and then posts “ladies I’m single” on twitter. Actual madlad

 

[Pepe Silvia]

 

[Huskerforlife]

 

[Juro]

Online mockery of Titanic submersible leaves cultural observers sickened: 'Garbage dump of vile commentary'

Social media snark and jokes abounded during the saga of the missing Titanic submersible, leading some commentators to call it the worst of modern culture.

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See, I just have no remorse for those who die from already risky situations. And for some situations, definitely funny. And you can blame my military training for that.

I honestly feel more remorse for those who die unexpectedly from honest situations. Recently married bride on the night of her wedding killed by drunk driver? 100% I’m sad for her family and friends for the tragedy.

Bunch of rich people wanted to take a mini-sub to a spot on the ocean floor just because and then have that mini-sub collapse in? Yeah, no remorse. I’m glad they got a quick death over a slow one though.

 

[Toe]

Yeah, and that one is only at a 1,275 ft depth. At ~12,000 you're looking at ~375 atmospheres/5,500 PSI. They would have been vaporized before even realizing what happened.

And the other thing to understand is the sheer amount of heat produced by that kind of compression. You know how a diesel engine ignites its fuel just from compression, right? A semi's engine compresses to 'only' maybe 350-400 PSI. They were exposed to about fifteen times that pressure.

From my understanding, it's not totally certain whether the heat or the pressure would have killed them first, though obviously they're pretty goddamn dead either way.

 

[Toe]

"I did my own research!"

 

[HuskerGarrett]

The son of the CEO has been absolutely hilarious during this. Publicly posted about going to a blink-182 concert while his dad is missing and then posts “ladies I’m single” on twitter. Actual madlad

I saw he replied “yes please” on an onlyfans models post asking if you want her to sit on your face

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

"I did my own research!"

So did the Wright Brothers.

It's a fine line sometimes.

 

[Eaton Beaver]

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[Eaton Beaver]

During a trip on board the Titan off the coast of the Bahamas in April 2019, Karl Stanley, an expert in submersibles, knew immediately that something was off: He heard a cracking noise that got only louder over the two hours it took for the submersible to plunge more than 12,000 feet.
The next day, Mr. Stanley wrote an email in which he detailed his concerns to Stockton Rush, the chief executive of OceanGate Expeditions, who was also on board the Titan for the dive, urging Mr. Rush to cancel the expeditions to the wreck of the Titanic that were planned for that summer.
“A useful thought exercise here would be to imagine the removal of the variables of the investors, the eager mission scientists, your team hungry for success, the press releases already announcing this summer’s dive schedule,” wrote Mr. Stanley, according to a copy of the email seen by The New York Times. “Imagine this project was self funded and on your own schedule. Would you consider taking dozens of other people to the Titanic before you truly knew the source of those sounds??”
The U.S. Coast Guard said on Thursday that a remote-controlled vehicle found debris from the Titan near the wreckage of the Titanic, ending a four-day, multinational search for the 22-foot watercraft that had captivated people worldwide. Mr. Rush was piloting the Titan and was among the five people on board who were killed. The Titan’s final voyage would have been its 14th expedition to the Titanic’s wreckage.

Mr. Stanley has operated a tourist submersible in Honduras for 25 years, although his vessel descends only to about 2,000 feet, far less than the more than 13,000 feet that Titan was designed to reach. Accompanying Mr. Stanley on his dive on the Titan in 2019 with Mr. Rush was OceanGate’s program manager, Joel Perry, who Mr. Stanley said in his email to Mr. Rush shared his concerns about the Titan. Mr. Perry, who left OceanGate in 2019, months after the dive, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Rush had heavily promoted his plans for the Titan before its first deep-sea dive in 2019. The year before, at a conference of crewed underwater vehicle specialists in New Orleans, several experts confronted Mr. Rush directly about their concerns with the Titan in a tense exchange, Mr. Stanley said. Shortly after the conference, more than three dozen industry experts sent Mr. Rush a letter urging him to put the Titan through a certification process.

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Stockton Rush opens the hatch on another one of OceanGate’s submersibles, Antipodes, in 2013.Credit...AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee

“People were basically ganging up on him in that room,” said Mr. Stanley.
Mr. Rush was determined to build a submersible with a larger capacity than other such craft, which are metal spheres that can carry three people at most, Mr. Stanley said, recalling conversations he had with Mr. Rush in person and over the phone.
In the April 2019 email to Mr. Rush, Mr. Stanley said the loud cracking sounds that they had heard during their dive “sounded like a flaw/defect in one area being acted on by the tremendous pressures and being crushed/damaged.” He wrote that the loud, cracking noise signaled there was “an area of the hull that is breaking down.”

Mr. Rush never replied directly to that email, Mr. Stanley said. But he made some changes to the Titan, including building a new hull, and called off the planned dives for that year.
Experts said that one explanation for what might have caused the Titan to implode was that water seeped in where a titanium piece was glued into the end of the vessel’s cylinder. “It could’ve been anywhere wherever you seal the carbon fiber to the titanium, or it could’ve been around that porthole,” said Capt. Alfred McLaren, a retired Navy captain and friend of Paul-Henri Nargeolet, one of the people who was on board the Titan when it imploded this week.
“At that depth, you could have a leak that’s not much bigger than a diameter of one of your hairs and you would be dead within a fraction of a second,” said Captain McLaren, a nuclear attack submarine commander. “They really wouldn’t have even known they would have died, they would have been dead before they knew it.”
That the vessel imploded in the first dive of the season may have been relevant. Saltwater that had been trapped in between different materials in the vessel from dives in 2021 and 2022 worked its way through fibers and softened it up, making it more susceptible to a leak, experts said.

 

[ChocaEgg]

 

[Dawgsauce]

During a trip on board the Titan off the coast of the Bahamas in April 2019, Karl Stanley, an expert in submersibles, knew immediately that something was off: He heard a cracking noise that got only louder over the two hours it took for the submersible to plunge more than 12,000 feet.
The next day, Mr. Stanley wrote an email in which he detailed his concerns to Stockton Rush, the chief executive of OceanGate Expeditions, who was also on board the Titan for the dive, urging Mr. Rush to cancel the expeditions to the wreck of the Titanic that were planned for that summer.
“A useful thought exercise here would be to imagine the removal of the variables of the investors, the eager mission scientists, your team hungry for success, the press releases already announcing this summer’s dive schedule,” wrote Mr. Stanley, according to a copy of the email seen by The New York Times. “Imagine this project was self funded and on your own schedule. Would you consider taking dozens of other people to the Titanic before you truly knew the source of those sounds??”
The U.S. Coast Guard said on Thursday that a remote-controlled vehicle found debris from the Titan near the wreckage of the Titanic, ending a four-day, multinational search for the 22-foot watercraft that had captivated people worldwide. Mr. Rush was piloting the Titan and was among the five people on board who were killed. The Titan’s final voyage would have been its 14th expedition to the Titanic’s wreckage.

Mr. Stanley has operated a tourist submersible in Honduras for 25 years, although his vessel descends only to about 2,000 feet, far less than the more than 13,000 feet that Titan was designed to reach. Accompanying Mr. Stanley on his dive on the Titan in 2019 with Mr. Rush was OceanGate’s program manager, Joel Perry, who Mr. Stanley said in his email to Mr. Rush shared his concerns about the Titan. Mr. Perry, who left OceanGate in 2019, months after the dive, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Mr. Rush had heavily promoted his plans for the Titan before its first deep-sea dive in 2019. The year before, at a conference of crewed underwater vehicle specialists in New Orleans, several experts confronted Mr. Rush directly about their concerns with the Titan in a tense exchange, Mr. Stanley said. Shortly after the conference, more than three dozen industry experts sent Mr. Rush a letter urging him to put the Titan through a certification process.

Image

Stockton Rush opens the hatch on another one of OceanGate’s submersibles, Antipodes, in 2013.Credit...AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee

“People were basically ganging up on him in that room,” said Mr. Stanley.
Mr. Rush was determined to build a submersible with a larger capacity than other such craft, which are metal spheres that can carry three people at most, Mr. Stanley said, recalling conversations he had with Mr. Rush in person and over the phone.
In the April 2019 email to Mr. Rush, Mr. Stanley said the loud cracking sounds that they had heard during their dive “sounded like a flaw/defect in one area being acted on by the tremendous pressures and being crushed/damaged.” He wrote that the loud, cracking noise signaled there was “an area of the hull that is breaking down.”

Mr. Rush never replied directly to that email, Mr. Stanley said. But he made some changes to the Titan, including building a new hull, and called off the planned dives for that year.
Experts said that one explanation for what might have caused the Titan to implode was that water seeped in where a titanium piece was glued into the end of the vessel’s cylinder. “It could’ve been anywhere wherever you seal the carbon fiber to the titanium, or it could’ve been around that porthole,” said Capt. Alfred McLaren, a retired Navy captain and friend of Paul-Henri Nargeolet, one of the people who was on board the Titan when it imploded this week.
“At that depth, you could have a leak that’s not much bigger than a diameter of one of your hairs and you would be dead within a fraction of a second,” said Captain McLaren, a nuclear attack submarine commander. “They really wouldn’t have even known they would have died, they would have been dead before they knew it.”
That the vessel imploded in the first dive of the season may have been relevant. Saltwater that had been trapped in between different materials in the vessel from dives in 2021 and 2022 worked its way through fibers and softened it up, making it more susceptible to a leak, experts said.

I know Karl. Amazing man who lives in Roatan. I think he built his first sub when he was 15. I spent many a night watching the lights of his sub slowly rising just the other side of the Half Moon Bay Reef. Wouldn't go down myself, but he's been doing it forever.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

So did the Wright Brothers.

It's a fine line sometimes.

I'll give the dude credit. He put his money where his mouth is and sounds like he rode in the sub on every journey. They made ~50 dives in that sub and ~20 of those were to the sea floor (saw somewhere that they've done 500+ dives across their subs), so there's some merit to what he was doing.

Imagine that what happened was degradation over time, but too bad they probably won't be able to determine exact cause of failure and this probably cuts this whole shit right off.

 

[ThomOsborneMD]

I'll give the dude credit. He put his money where his mouth is and sounds like he rode in the sub on every journey. They made ~50 dives in that sub and ~20 of those were to the sea floor (saw somewhere that they've done 500+ dives across their subs), so there's some merit to what he was doing.

Imagine that what happened was degradation over time, but too bad they probably won't be able to determine exact cause of failure and this probably cuts this whole shit right off.

I guess. Not like they were doing a valuable service for man kind?

 

[Poor_and_Stupid]

See, I just have no remorse for those who die from already risky situations. And for some situations, definitely funny. And you can blame my military training for that.

I honestly feel more remorse for those who die unexpectedly from honest situations. Recently married bride on the night of her wedding killed by drunk driver? 100% I’m sad for her family and friends for the tragedy.

Bunch of rich people wanted to take a mini-sub to a spot on the ocean floor just because and then have that mini-sub collapse in? Yeah, no remorse. I’m glad they got a quick death over a slow one though.

I read that the 19 y/o kid was mortified and didn’t want to do it, but he went anyway to make his dad happy. I kinda feel bad for him.

 

[Eaton Beaver]

I read that the 19 y/o kid was mortified and didn’t want to do it, but he went anyway to make his dad happy. I kinda feel bad for him.

So now what? You going to cry with the wife?

 

[Poor_and_Stupid]

So now what? You going to cry with the wife?

 

[Mavsker]

I'll give the dude credit. He put his money where his mouth is and sounds like he rode in the sub on every journey. They made ~50 dives in that sub and ~20 of those were to the sea floor (saw somewhere that they've done 500+ dives across their subs), so there's some merit to what he was doing.

Imagine that what happened was degradation over time, but too bad they probably won't be able to determine exact cause of failure and this probably cuts this whole shit right off.

Almost certainly degraded with repeated stress from dives. Also I believe building it in a cylinder shape requires the hull to be twice as strong as if it were spherical.