Minneapolis Recs

[Jim14510]

wouldn’t be a problem if we had fewer shitty tippers.

Would never happen of course but just get rid of tips all together. Why there's tips for some jobs and not others is baffling to me.

 

[Herbie]

I get the way you're looking at it but can you not see the other way? The charge is the cost of business but gives you the choice to pay cash and save that cost. You'd pay the same price with a card for whatever it is you're getting whether or not they offer the cash discount.

I get your side too and honestly I have nothing wrong with cash discounts.

Here’s where my gripe comes in, no one uses them correctly/as intended. They just call it a cash discount to skirt around legality of ccp surcharging.

The menu price should be the price they charge to cover cost, not adding a surcharge on top of it. If I’m paying with cash that’s when the discount should be applied to my order.
If the menu price is what you pay with tax it’s not a cash discount. You’re just surcharging the ccp. Make your menu prices right and I have no gripe.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Would never happen of course but just get rid of tips all together. Why there's tips for some jobs and not others is baffling to me.

That’s what the restaurant is doing bro

 

[Herbie]

wouldn’t be a problem if we had fewer shitty tippers.

Hospitality industry is fucked right now with a labor shortage.
But it’s funny when you step back, it’s either people bitching no one wants to work or the unicorn of staffing isn’t the issue.

The places with issues are places stuck in outdated models of how to run a restaurant today. Places that aren’t know how to handle their business. They know if they add an extra 3% to their food cost to supplement labor cost for employee retention that’s what they need to do.

 

[Herbie]

That’s what the restaurant is doing bro

It’s not really what they are doing tho. On their website it tells you it doesnt replace tipping.
If the restaurant does 100k/month that’s an extra 18k for employees. But the split that 18k evenly it says. So if they have 20 employees they split that up with each employee is looking at $900 a month before taxes. Like they still need tips to be able to live.

 

[Jim14510]

That’s what the restaurant is doing bro

To a point. Most people would still leave some tip and I bet they don't pay 18% of receipts more in wages than the restaurant that doesn't do it.

 

[Jim14510]

It’s not really what they are doing tho. On their website it tells you it doesnt replace tipping.
If the restaurant does 100k/month that’s an extra 18k for employees. But the split that 18k evenly it says. So if they have 20 employees they split that up with each employee is looking at $900 a month before taxes. Like they still need tips to be able to live.

I mean....a restaurant that does 100k/month in receipts doesn't have 20 employees.

 

[Herbie]

Iirc their Katsu chicken was $10 when I was looking at it.
If they just raised the menu price 20% to $12 no one would give a fuck. And I’d tip 20% on top.
If you tell me it’s $10 then add on 18%. I’m probably not tipping. You lost your employees more money.

 

[Jim14510]

Iirc their Katsu chicken was $10 when I was looking at it.
If they just raised the menu price 20% to $12 no one would give a fuck. And I’d tip 20% on top.
If you tell me it’s $10 then add on 18%. I’m probably not tipping. You lost your employees more money.

Much better example.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

It’s not really what they are doing tho. On their website it tells you it doesnt replace tipping.
If the restaurant does 100k/month that’s an extra 18k for employees. But the split that 18k evenly it says. So if they have 20 employees they split that up with each employee is looking at $900 a month before taxes. Like they still need tips to be able to live.

That's not how I read it at all. "You are under no obligation to leave an additional tip. Your server earns an hourly wage, as well as an even share of the service charge. Some of our guests have requested a tip line to thank their server for going above and beyond to provide an excellent experience. The additional gratuity is completely optional. There's a pretty decent movement to move away from tipped wages for restaurants and just use a service fee."

I get what you're talking about with the spots that add like a 3% fee to every check to provide health care or something like that. Pretty big movement and common these days to get rid of tipping for servers and just move to fixed wage. Tends to really piss people off so restaurants have to message transparently up front and still end up pissing people off. Bit lose lose

 

[Jim14510]

Wtf is a juicy?

Bump

 

[Herbie]

I mean....a restaurant that does 100k/month in receipts doesn't have 20 employees.

It’s probably a little over.
Dishwashers
Food runners
Servers
Cooks

It all adds up and no one is full time.

 

[Herbie]

Bump

Juicy Lucy! Chess filled burger

 

[Jim14510]

Pretty big movement and common these days to get rid of tipping for servers and just move to fixed wage.

I wonder how those wages compare to minimum plus tips.

 

[HuskerDocCo]

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they are an amazing Jimbo!! BELCHH surprised you haven’t had one or 5,000,000

 

[Jim14510]

they are an amazing Jimbo!! BELCHH surprised you haven’t had one or 5,000,000

Just hadn't heard of by that name. 50k at most.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

I wonder how those wages compare to minimum plus tips.

Depends on if the place is paying minimum minimum or tipped minimum. Lot of it is just taking a variable pay rate w/ artificially low prices that depends on people tipping at a certain level to making it fixed. Lot of places ban tip sharing/pooling, so other part of it is to equalize between front of house and back of house.

 

[HuskerDocCo]

Just hadn't heard of by that name. 50k at most.

your a good man jimbo, terrible poster, but good man

 

[Jim14510]

Depends on if the place is paying minimum minimum or tipped minimum. Lot of it is just taking a variable pay rate w/ artificially low prices that depends on people tipping at a certain level to making it fixed. Lot of places ban tip sharing/pooling, so other part of it is to equalize between front of house and back of house.

Meant server minimum plus tips. Don't know of anyone around here that bans tip pooling. Pretty standard for the bigger restaurants.

Strippers it's discretionary but get treated like shit by the non strippers if they're perceived as being unfair.

 

[HuskerDocCo]

Strippers it's discretionary but get treated like shit by the non strippers if they're perceived as being unfair.

Jim, am i gonna need to bring u to church again w me