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in retrospect bringing Raiola in (you had to ) probably set the program back 1 to 2 years in terms of wanting to do what they wanted to do.
I am getting strong Matt Abdelmassih/Bryce McGowens vibes coming out of the backend of this journey.

Rhule made a move to get the "program changer." Bryce wasn't a bad kid, similarly to Dylan not being a bad kid either. But Abdelmassih was poison to the program, trying to control things - just like Dom.

How many people were clamoring for Hoiberg to be canned? He made a mistake that set the program back a bit, but he was also willing to make the changes needed and righted the ship.

This is where Rhule is at right now. Sucks that we "wasted" years with the Raiola's, but 1) no one could blame Rhule for making the decision that he did at the time with Dylan and 2) the program is still in way better shape than it was 4 years ago when he took it over.

Without the burden of Raiola, Rhule can finally build the team his way.
 
I am getting strong Matt Abdelmassih/Bryce McGowens vibes coming out of the backend of this journey.

Rhule made a move to get the "program changer." Bryce wasn't a bad kid, similarly to Dylan not being a bad kid either. But Abdelmassih was poison to the program, trying to control things - just like Dom.

How many people were clamoring for Hoiberg to be canned? He made a mistake that set the program back a bit, but he was also willing to make the changes needed and righted the ship.

This is where Rhule is at right now. Sucks that we "wasted" years with the Raiola's, but 1) no one could blame Rhule for making the decision that he did at the time with Dylan and 2) the program is still in way better shape than it was 4 years ago when he took it over.

Without the burden of Raiola, Rhule can finally build the team his way.
That's probably a fair assessment
 
I am getting strong Matt Abdelmassih/Bryce McGowens vibes coming out of the backend of this journey.

Rhule made a move to get the "program changer." Bryce wasn't a bad kid, similarly to Dylan not being a bad kid either. But Abdelmassih was poison to the program, trying to control things - just like Dom.

How many people were clamoring for Hoiberg to be canned? He made a mistake that set the program back a bit, but he was also willing to make the changes needed and righted the ship.

This is where Rhule is at right now. Sucks that we "wasted" years with the Raiola's, but 1) no one could blame Rhule for making the decision that he did at the time with Dylan and 2) the program is still in way better shape than it was 4 years ago when he took it over.

Without the burden of Raiola, Rhule can finally build the team his way.
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This is EXACTLY my feelings on the situation. And it's 100% accurate IMHO. I'm more open to letting Rhule build now that he's freed himself of the Raiola family albatross.

I think to fire Rhule now would be unfair. He had to go the Raiola route - we all would have - now at least he abscessed the cancer from the program. I want to see what he can build now, just like we gave Hoiberg the time to do.


**I will say this: Rhule's big problem is that he fucked up the QB before Raiola too. That's partially why fans are on his back. So MR has to own that. Also he's dealing with 20 yrs of fan frustration before him that's not necessarily his fault.
 
I am getting strong Matt Abdelmassih/Bryce McGowens vibes coming out of the backend of this journey.

Rhule made a move to get the "program changer." Bryce wasn't a bad kid, similarly to Dylan not being a bad kid either. But Abdelmassih was poison to the program, trying to control things - just like Dom.

How many people were clamoring for Hoiberg to be canned? He made a mistake that set the program back a bit, but he was also willing to make the changes needed and righted the ship.

This is where Rhule is at right now. Sucks that we "wasted" years with the Raiola's, but 1) no one could blame Rhule for making the decision that he did at the time with Dylan and 2) the program is still in way better shape than it was 4 years ago when he took it over.

Without the burden of Raiola, Rhule can finally build the team his way.
Plus it screwed NU with the 2026 class as they had to take Dayton who brought in no one with him.
 
He had to go the Raiola route - we all would have
Wholeheartedly disagree if taking him meant passing on the McCord rental. Intentionally going into year 2 with a true freshman instead of an experienced vet, passing on the opportunity to gain some momentum as a program was certainly a choice. Now we’re stuck in a rut and hoping we can land Notre Dame’s backup.
 
Wholeheartedly disagree if taking him meant passing on the McCord rental. Intentionally going into year 2 with a true freshman instead of an experienced vet, passing on the opportunity to gain some momentum as a program was certainly a choice. Now we’re stuck in a rut and hoping we can land Notre Dame’s backup.
There were very few people saying that at the time.

Now I agree with you. I just don't know if Rhule could afford to miss on Dylan. If it turned into a Joe Burrow situation he'd never live that down and the fanbase would have never forgiven him.
 
Wholeheartedly disagree if taking him meant passing on the McCord rental. Intentionally going into year 2 with a true freshman instead of an experienced vet, passing on the opportunity to gain some momentum as a program was certainly a choice. Now we’re stuck in a rut and hoping we can land Notre Dame’s backup.
Lolololol. Wow. This is hindsight at its finest.

If Rhule would have went with the one year rental over the 5 stat legacy, someone would have set North Stadium on fire. We know now it didn't work out, but 2 years ago no one was thinking that.
 
Lolololol. Wow. This is hindsight at its finest.

If Rhule would have went with the one year rental over the 5 stat legacy, someone would have set North Stadium on fire. We know now it didn't work out, but 2 years ago no one was thinking that.
No one was even excited or singing Rhule’s praises when he got Dylan to flip. Unanimously knew it was horrible. No one had hope at the time it happened…
 
Wholeheartedly disagree if taking him meant passing on the McCord rental. Intentionally going into year 2 with a true freshman instead of an experienced vet, passing on the opportunity to gain some momentum as a program was certainly a choice. Now we’re stuck in a rut and hoping we can land Notre Dame’s backup.
You sir are extremely not smart
 
I am getting strong Matt Abdelmassih/Bryce McGowens vibes coming out of the backend of this journey.

Rhule made a move to get the "program changer." Bryce wasn't a bad kid, similarly to Dylan not being a bad kid either. But Abdelmassih was poison to the program, trying to control things - just like Dom.

How many people were clamoring for Hoiberg to be canned? He made a mistake that set the program back a bit, but he was also willing to make the changes needed and righted the ship.

This is where Rhule is at right now. Sucks that we "wasted" years with the Raiola's, but 1) no one could blame Rhule for making the decision that he did at the time with Dylan and 2) the program is still in way better shape than it was 4 years ago when he took it over.

Without the burden of Raiola, Rhule can finally build the team his way.
Well stated. Rhule talked about wanting to be a physical running team, and then came Raiola. I like Holgerson, but I’m not sure he has that philosophy.
 
I am getting strong Matt Abdelmassih/Bryce McGowens vibes coming out of the backend of this journey.

Rhule made a move to get the "program changer." Bryce wasn't a bad kid, similarly to Dylan not being a bad kid either. But Abdelmassih was poison to the program, trying to control things - just like Dom.

How many people were clamoring for Hoiberg to be canned? He made a mistake that set the program back a bit, but he was also willing to make the changes needed and righted the ship.

This is where Rhule is at right now. Sucks that we "wasted" years with the Raiola's, but 1) no one could blame Rhule for making the decision that he did at the time with Dylan and 2) the program is still in way better shape than it was 4 years ago when he took it over.

Without the burden of Raiola, Rhule can finally build the team his way.

Raiola didn't really have anything to do with the defensive rebuild we currently find ourselves in, though...
 
Raiola didn't really have anything to do with the defensive rebuild we currently find ourselves in, though...
Partially true. Although, the defensive rebuild isn't nearly as bad as many like to think. 2 years ago our defense was pretty salty. Definitely a step back this year with Butler, but Aurich seems to definitely be a big step in the right direction.

But Raiola was eating up probably a quarter of our teams salary this past year, potentially preventing us from adding a much needed DT.
 
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