Would you be able to recognize an offensive system/identity?
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Editorial Looking Ahead: What Does Rhule Really Have to Build On Going Into Year 4?
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Felt like he had one on defense and then apparently shredded it this last year.
My only hope there is TW was able to flip it quick. I think he hired a good DC, so I am hopeful he can flip it quick again.
Problem is, you had one problem solved and at a championship level.... now you are likely going backwards.
I have no clue what they want to do on offense.......I think they tried to have an offense for Dylan vs having an offense for Nebraska. So year 4 is probably closer to year 1 on offense.
LOL yes. 28 years of coordinating a defense. 32 years of coaching football. 10 semifinals, 3 state championships. 1 runner up. 4 state championship games in which we gave up a total of 26 pts. (0, 12, 7, 7).
I would say I have some perspective.
Nebraska's offensive identity can be summed up in one word. Ambiguous! Spread, Air raid, Pro, Wing, Tempo, etc... .
Right now its a hodge podge of stuff. This can be great if you have the dudes to do it. Keeps a defense off balance, attacks weaknesses using a variety of formations, shifts, RPO...etc. I think at a place like Nebraska its hard to recruit to that. I would love for us to get back to a power/pro style offense. One that can utilize the spread as needed but is rooted in a basic principled system. Run first. I don't care if it gap or zone scheme or a combo of both, but establish a run game identity and build from there.
Right now our offense and to an extent our defense look like Fred's first few years. Just trying to find something that works and works fast. Problem is it never works long.
Im all for a big step back in year 4 and even 5 to establish identities on both sides of the ball with the hopes of a giant leap forward in year 6. What's another couple of years after 18 years of mediocrity?
So you’re saying we’re in for another 3 abysmal years before he gets the right dudes in here? Unacceptable, imo. If he could coach and recruit half as good as he can talk, we’d be winning 10 games a year.
I have made this comparison before.... feels like they are both a tipping points. Fred was able to make the changes necessary. But I do think Fred had what he wanted to do in his core. He did adapt to the B1G.
Woof.... he would lose a lot of the fan base.
Also it is really hard to sell it takes that amount of time given what Indiana did with a bunch of 3 stars. I am not saying in 2027 we need to go undefeated, but I don't think you need to take a big step back.
Not arguing that at all. But it doesn't change the fact that that's where we are. 4th year 4th different DC (kind of). 4th year 2nd OC. How many position coaching changes in that time? Hard to have any consistency with that kind of turnover.
Teams with great rosters can withstand that inconsistency. Nebraska can not.
Depends if we're talking HH at qb or Raiola for specifics. You certainly wouldn't have the same "identity" with both QB's.
I think what he'd prefer is a true dual threat qb like 90% of college football today. Balanced offense that doesnt make mistakes and scores a lot of touchdowns.
You adjust if your qb is better at one or the other.
Defense strong up front to stop the run and good secondary to cover receivers.
Basically tackle gud and make interception, fumble and sack plays.
Again coaches that take their identity to the extreme are coaches that usually have pretty good teams but rarely great teams. Ferentz, Peepee.
Idgaf about the identity. Just win.
Bruce Jenner has more of a solid identity then rhule
right. And that’s all on him. He’s the one who has hired poorly (with the jury still out on the second OC and the third DC to be determined).
He hit a home run at ST and is now apparently going to replace him with a warm body in house.
I’m fine with giving someone time who’s done something to give me reason to believe in him.
But he has been a terrible CEO, and we were supposed to finally be getting a guy who could run that stuff competently.
I really wanted Rhule to be the guy but if you had told people when he was hired that after year 3 you’d be on your third DC, second OC, third ST, you’d have squandered a 5 star qb, you’d be a mid- to lower-tier Big Ten offense, and you’d be in the second year of trying to rebuild your DL, l think most fans would have said, “even with a 6- and a 7-win regular season, we should probably keep looking.”
I agree and it took Fred time to get that done. Husker fans keep thinking that this football program is special. It is but only to us. And the fact remains that we were in a deep dark hole after Frost. And honestly have been for almost 20 years. Its going to take a lot to get out of that. That's not to excuse MR. He owns a lot of our current issues.
Im simply saying that we tried the fast...make it happen now approach and it hasn't panned out well. Things need to be squared away and shored up. No loose ends. No flexibility. No gray area. Black and White. This is what we do. This is how we do it. Get on board or get the Fuck out!
Just how I would go about it at this point in time and some times that takes a big step back!
Hard to dispute any of that. I'm not happy either. But history is not on our side in our endeavors to change coaches every 5 years. If you don't learn from history your doomed to repeat it (Churchill).
My take is Nebraska was barely a functioning football program after Riley/Frost. The money has always been there but the structure was in disarray. It's going to take time to rebuild it. Doesn't excuse some of the bone headed stumbles for sure, but does allow for a bit of leniency moving forward. IMHO
I’ll listen once Rhule beats Cockeye or Minnesota. Those teams aren’t that much different than when Bo coached. You can definitely argue the B1G is better today, but our schedule this year was soft and we still struggled.
Agreed. Losing Dylan hurt more than most believed it would...Me included. Minny is just a head scratch to me. Cockeye.... By the time we got to that game we were a defeated program.
Rhule has a lot to prove. I'm not arguing that. As a coach, I do a lot of head scratching while watching games. But my take is we need to see this thing finished out over at least a 5 year run. Then we move from there. Where???? I have no idea.
Rhule is a dipshit who isn’t cut out for coaching at the P4 level. Send his ass to the MAC or Temu PAC-12 and he might be fine.
As for NU, who knows anymore.
I think the opposite though; I think having Dylan first coming to the program hurt more than believed.
Dylan might not have been a typical Rhule QB he wanted for his system. But when a legacy, 5 star, #1 QB wants to come to your school, you have to take him, right?
You do everything to keep him happy to hopefully take the steps you want out of your starting QB: keeping his uncle as OL coach, recruit his brother, hire his sister, and deal with his dad.
But it’s not working out. You see the opportunity for them to move on. You take it.
I agree with all of that. What I'm saying is that once we had transitioned to Dylan and the team was essentially molded to match him and him alone.... we were lost when he wen't down. The offense became what we saw in the final several games. Sporadic and lacking continuity.
That's what you get when you hitch the wagons to a player and not a system. As you can tell I'm a pretty big system guy.
I hope Rhule is like Seinfeld - mediocre the first three seasons then takes off in seasons 4 & 5 and becomes goat status seasons 6-9
well that might be extreme considering what he did at Temple, Baylor and to an extent running the panthers operation. With that said...I agree there are plenty of times where I've stopped watching the game or his after game interviews because its headshakingly frustrating.
Honestly the Utah game really bothered me. His hat backwards "Larry the cableguy" look really turned me off. I don't want our HC to look like a redneck comedian just coming off the backwoods pond. Might as well had a Bushlight in his hand.
Even with that... I'm convinced we have to stay the course.
Season 4 isn't happening outside of some God like intervention. Season 5 has potential. GOAT status.....No way in hell.
I think most of us would love to get back to the Solich era of 9-11 wins. That's flirting with playoffs now.
