Interesting Matt Rhule Nugget about midway thru season's 2 at Temple and Baylor...

[Dr.DrakeRamoray]

OP with the kiss of death

 

[Red Finger]

 

[Cornicator]

This was never going to be a quick build. That's not what Rhule does, he develops players, that takes a while, but is more sustainable once everything is up to speed. Patience and dealing with some disappointment is all we can do right now, but results like last week were always a possibility in year 2.

I get the sentiment here, but what has he sustained? He was at Temple for 4 years and Baylor for 3. That’s not long enough to say his way of doing things produce long-term results vs a slow build to temporary success.

For the record, I don’t think he should be on the hot seat and believe he needs at least next year to show progress. If the rest of this year and next year are similar to this year, he should be out.

OP with the kiss of death

All I'm saying is his rebuilds have never been as fast as Nebraska fans hope. And there have been other situations, where his teams still got their asses kicked well into year two. That doesn't mean the same type of success will happen again, but it does indicate that the people who are trying to abandon ship could be jumping prematurely.

That doesn't mean the man is infallible, and his past doesn't give him enough leash to avoid making adjustments to staff, scheme, and the process as a whole. What worked 6 years ago, may be irrelevant now.

But seriously, calm the fuck down. Oh and Nebraska is going to lose to Ohio State. And people still need to calm the fuck down.

As for @David Webb's questions about long term sustainability, I would point out that Temple was still a winning program for 3 more seasons after Rhule left. It was shit before he got there and has been one of the worst programs in the country over the last 5 years.

Baylor, with many of Rhule's former coaches, and a full roster of his players went on to win the Big 12 in 2021. And Aranda has been shit ever since he had to put his own roster in place. I believe the cultures and mentality he puts in place does lead to sustainability.


More importantly, I believe Rhule's mantra, professionalism, and overall organization lends itself to "selling resiliency." That wasn;t there with Frost and Riley. I believe this team can and will overcome adversity.


I will again remind everyone that before the season, I had Nebraska at 5-3 going in to the UCLA game. And I repeatedly made comments that I felt like people would be questioning Rhule, Raiola, and this place would be pretty fucking miserable.

But I've lived enough life to know you have to crawl before you can walk.


And anyone who brings up Cignetti sprinting before his team learned how to crawl, I challenge you to explain to me how they are going to do next season after 17 starters lose eligibility and they add this to their 2025 schedule:

Wisconsin
Illinois
Oregon
Penn State
Cockeye

 

[Baron Winnebago]

You don't have to get anally penetrated before you can crawl though.

 

[ChocaEgg]

All I'm saying is his rebuilds have never been as fast as Nebraska fans hope. And there have been other situations, where his teams still got their asses kicked well into year two. That doesn't mean the same type of success will happen again, but it does indicate that the people who are trying to abandon ship could be jumping prematurely.

That doesn't mean the man is infallible, and his past doesn't give him enough leash to avoid making adjustments to staff, scheme, and the process as a whole. What worked 6 years ago, may be irrelevant now.

But seriously, calm the fuck down. Oh and Nebraska is going to lose to Ohio State. And people still need to calm the fuck down.

As for @David Webb's questions about long term sustainability, I would point out that Temple was still a winning program for 3 more seasons after Rhule left. It was shit before he got there and has been one of the worst programs in the country over the last 5 years.

Baylor, with many of Rhule's former coaches, and a full roster of his players went on to win the Big 12 in 2021. And Aranda has been shit ever since he had to put his own roster in place. I believe the cultures and mentality he puts in place does lead to sustainability.


More importantly, I believe Rhule's mantra, professionalism, and overall organization lends itself to "selling resiliency." That wasn;t there with Frost and Riley. I believe this team can and will overcome adversity.


I will again remind everyone that before the season, I had Nebraska at 5-4 going in to the UCLA game. And I repeatedly made comments that I felt like people would be questioning Rhule, Raiola, and this place would be pretty fucking miserable.

But I've lived enough life to know you have to crawl before you can walk.


And anyone who brings up Cignetti sprinting before his team learned how to crawl, I challenge you to explain to me how they are going to do next season after 17 starters lose eligibility and they add this to their 2025 schedule:

Wisconsin
Illinois
Oregon
Penn State
Cockeye

I'll do a profile picture bet that Indiana record is better than ours next year (assuming Cigs is still there)

 

[Cornicator]

You don't have to get anally penetrated before you can crawl though.

That's bull shit.

 

[Herbie]

At what point do we quit comparing how everything went at Rhules other stops to the current stop? Don’t believe he bails next season to?

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Technically, yes.

Great comedy is simple

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I understand that even an "interim" report on a HC is not done 19 games into his tenure, but I think that any coach who is on the cusp of turning it around has established certain things that the team does well despite not winning a lot of games and suffering some bad defeats. So I think my question would be what does Nebraska do consistently well on offense? On defense? And on special teams? Why should I expect this to be different than the last 2 guys other than Rhule did it in significantly worse conferences 5-10 years ago?

 

[Cornicator]

I'll do a profile picture bet that Indianus record is better than ours next year (assuming Cigs is still there)

I can't take that bet. I will however bet that Indiana is a .500 team or worse next season, whether Cignetti stays or goes.

What's he going to do?

4 starting offensive linemen, 2 starting receivers, their starting tight end, his top 3 running backs, his QB, and 8 defensive starters are all out of eligibility at the end of this season. That team is going to endure what TCU encountered between 2022 and 2023. And it will be worse than what is occurring at Washington this season because the Huskies actually had some decent depth. Indiana has ZERO depth.

Also, are we supposed to believe Cignetti is going to say no to Florida, Florida State, or Auburn if they come calling in the off season?

 

[Cornicator]

I understand that even an "interim" report on a HC is not done 19 games into his tenure, but I think that any coach who is on the cusp of turning it around has established certain things that the team does well despite not winning a lot of games and suffering some bad defeats. So I think my question would be what does Nebraska do consistently well on offense? On defense? And on special teams? Why should I expect this to be different than the last 2 guys other than Rhule did it in significantly worse conferences 5-10 years ago?

Wouldn't those same questions have been asked after the 2018 West Virginia squad, a team MUCH worse than Indiana in 2024, dragged their sweaty sack all over Rhule and the Baylor Bears to the tune of 600 yards and 58 points? In fact, what you're asking is very much piggy backing upon my God Damn point of this whole thread. In his previous stops, there were plenty of questions about all phases of the game by mid season in year two.

That 2018 Baylor team beat K-State and Oklahoma State and lost a last second heart breaker to Texas, and then suddenly got their ass kicked by West Virginia. For all the progress made, there was still a lot of inconsistency in year two.

Oh and through week 7 of year two with Frost, Nebraska was allowing 28 points per game.
And through week 7 of year two with Riley, Nebraska had just played the worst Purdue team of the last 10 years, the worst Illinois team of the last 10 years, the worst Oregon team of the last 20 years, the worst Fresno State team of the last 10 years, and a Northwestern Team that had the worst defense of Pat Fitzgerald's Locker Room raping tenure.



You don't have to take my word for it, but it is different.

 

[Cash68847]

I can't take that bet. I will however bet that Indianus is a .500 team or worse next season, whether Cignetti stays or goes.

What's he going to do?

4 starting offensive linemen, 2 starting receivers, their starting tight end, his top 3 running backs, his QB, and 8 defensive starters are all out of eligibility at the end of this season. That team is going to endure what TCU encountered between 2022 and 2023. And it will be worse than what is occurring at Washington this season because the Huskies actually had some decent depth. Indianus has ZERO depth.

Also, are we supposed to believe Cignetti is going to say no to Florida, Florida State, or Auburn if they come calling in the off season?

Michigan should actually hire him.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Wouldn't those same questions have been asked after the 2018 West Virginia squad, a team MUCH worse than Indianus in 2024, dragged their sweaty sack all over Rhule and the Baylor Bears to the tune of 600 yards and 58 points? In fact, what you're asking is very much piggy backing upon my God Damn point of this whole thread. In his previous stops, there were plenty of questions about all phases of the game by mid season in year two.

That 2018 Baylor team beat K-State and Oklahoma State and lost a last second heart breaker to Texas, and then suddenly got their ass kicked by West Virginia. For all the progress made, there was still a lot of inconsistency in year two.

Oh and through week 7 of year two with Frost, Nebraska was allowing 28 points per game.
And through week 7 of year two with Riley, Nebraska had just played the worst Purdoodoo team of the last 10 years, the worst Illinois team of the last 10 years, the worst Oregon team of the last 20 years, the worst Fresno State team of the last 10 years, and a Northwestern Team that had the worst defense of Pat Fitzgerald's Locker Room raping tenure.



You don't have to take my word for it, but it is different.

You're right about one thing, I won't take your word for it. Maybe this is just a bump in the road. We will see how they close the year

 

[Cornicator]

You're right about one thing, I won't take your word for it. Maybe this is just a bump in the road. We will see how they close the year

Translation:

"You made better a argument than me, and I don't know what else to type. I don't know what to do with my hands."

 

[EwokRhuler]

- In games #18 and #19 (midway thru his 2nd season) for Temple, Rhule lost back to back games vs. Houston and Central Florida. Temple was outscored 65-24 in those games.
- In game #19 for Baylor, Matt Rhule and the Bears got Booty Blasted, 58-13 at a slightly above average 5th place Big 12 team - West Virginia

After those games, Rhule proceeded to go 25-9 the rest of his career at Temple. He went 14-5 over the next 19 games at Baylor.

Temple was 5-2 in year two going into those two blowouts.
Baylor was 4-3 in year two going into that blowout.

Rhule was 6-13 with Temple going into those blowouts.
Rhule was 5-14 with Baylor going into those blowouts.

What's my point? The man clearly didn't lose those locker rooms and programs when it would've been very fucking easy to question whether the program is going anywhere.

Does Rhule need to consider some changes and adjustments that may have not been needed at Temple and Baylor? Absolutely, but our fanbase needs to learn how to be patient like Nebraska needs to learn how to win football games.

Interesting question would be, what adjustments were made after these games if any?

 

[EwokRhuler]

Don’t let the Sandy vagina crew see this

 

[Irv]

it's fascinating to watch the irresistible force of Rhule's college success meet the immovable object of Nebraska's ability to bend the space-time continuum towards disaster.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Translation:

"You made better a argument than me, and I don't know what else to type. I don't know what to do with my hands."

I don't really find the argument compelling but you win on the idk what else to type

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

- In games #18 and #19 (midway thru his 2nd season) for Temple, Rhule lost back to back games vs. Houston and Central Florida. Temple was outscored 65-24 in those games.
- In game #19 for Baylor, Matt Rhule and the Bears got Booty Blasted, 58-13 at a slightly above average 5th place Big 12 team - West Virginia

After those games, Rhule proceeded to go 25-9 the rest of his career at Temple. He went 14-5 over the next 19 games at Baylor.

Temple was 5-2 in year two going into those two blowouts.
Baylor was 4-3 in year two going into that blowout.

Rhule was 6-13 with Temple going into those blowouts.
Rhule was 5-14 with Baylor going into those blowouts.

What's my point? The man clearly didn't lose those locker rooms and programs when it would've been very fucking easy to question whether the program is going anywhere.

Does Rhule need to consider some changes and adjustments that may have not been needed at Temple and Baylor? Absolutely, but our fanbase needs to learn how to be patient like Nebraska needs to learn how to win football games.

Not in this day and age. Indiana did it in 1 year. Honeymoon is over bruv