Inside Info Inside Info - Re: Performance Testing

[Tell_Sackett]

Our future NFLs are their thing today:

Surprised Mills only put up 13 on the bench. He looks thick and is not at all rangy so you'd think he'd put up a better number than that, particularly compared to Stoll putting up 16.

Jaimes' numbers look solid enough for a tackle. Farniok won't be hurt from a strength perspective. His film likely won't be so kind. I'd like to see the OL's 10 yard shuttle times... 40s mean nothing for them.

Bootle's time is blazing.. I don't recall him playing that fast.

 

[CornHub]

Yeah this is about as big of a load of crap as I've ever heard. I'm actually startled people on here believe this.

 

[CornHub]

Yes... He was a top 1% athlete. I frankly think all of them are 4.4 guys.

I also think Nixon and Brown would run below a 4.59. IIRC Nixon was a 10 second 100 guy. Brown looks quick, but not sure if he has that top end gear to run a fast 40 (I just haven't noticed him in the open field.)

Not saying OP is wrong, but I think there is problems with the system more than Reimer being the 4th fastest guy.

I guarantee you OP is wrong or there was simply something wrong with the system. Bootle clearly didn't get slower after his pro day performance today. Betts doesn't outrun the entire PSU defense and then all the sudden turn into a slug. People worry too much about S&C. This isn't the 80's anymore where over half of the country didn't know how to properly weight train their players. I mean good lord, it was obvious CTB wasn't running below a 4.6 out there last season.

 

[Bootleg11]

4.38 is good.

4.6 for Stoll is also pretty good. That’s faster than I thought he was

 

[Driveway Jordan]

I guarantee you OP is wrong or there was simply something wrong with the system. Bootle clearly didn't get slower after his pro day performance today. Betts doesn't outrun the entire PSU defense and then all the sudden turn into a slug. People worry too much about S&C. This isn't the 80's anymore where over half of the country didn't know how to properly weight train their players. I mean good lord, it was obvious CTB wasn't running below a 4.6 out there last season.

I trust my info. It's easy to cherry-pick individual players and say this guy looks fast or that guy looks fast...but do you think we have good team speed overall?? Did Bootle look fast when Olave from Ohio State ran right by him for a deep TD? Or when Imatorbhebhe from Illinois blew by him for a TD? Did our WRs have enough speed to get open more than 10 yards down field?

Point Being: I was bringing information to the board, that I consider to be very reliable and credible, regarding concerns within the program after Performance Testing about the lack of speed, particularly among certain position groups. I hope it turns out to be unfounded next fall. I guess we'll see.

 

[Driveway Jordan]

Yeah this is about as big of a load of crap as I've ever heard. I'm actually startled people on here believe this.

Talk to me about team speed after the OU game.

 

[CornHub]

I trust my info. It's easy to cherry-pick individual players and say this guy looks fast or that guy looks fast...but do you think we have good team speed overall?? Did Bootle look fast when Olave from Ohio State ran right by him for a deep TD? Or when Imatorbhebhe from Illinois blew by him for a TD? Did our WRs have enough speed to get open more than 10 yards down field?

Point Being: I was bringing information to the board, that I consider to be very reliable and credible, regarding concerns within the program after Performance Testing about the lack of speed, particularly among certain position groups. I hope it turns out to be unfounded next fall. I guess we'll see.

Guys get beat off the line every once in a while. It happens. It doesn't always mean you're slow. You just saw Bootle run a verified 4.38, yet you're saying he's slow? Clearly he's faster than the 4.59 which you said was the fastest time on the team.

 

[Johannes de Silentio]

Guys get beat off the line every once in a while. It happens. It doesn't always mean you're slow. You just saw Bootle run a verified 4.38, yet you're saying he's slow? Clearly he's faster than the 4.59 which you said was the fastest time on the team.

He said 4.59, Reimer's time, was the fourth-fastest time on the team with Nance and two unknown players (each with unknown times) ahead of him.

Also, keep in mind that we're comparing electric times to handhelds yesterday.

 

[CornHub]

He said 4.59, Reimer's time, was the fourth-fastest time on the team with Nance and two unknown players (each with unknown times) ahead of him.

Also, keep in mind that we're comparing electric times to handhelds yesterday.

Still not buying it. Johnson, Nance, and Houston were all track guys. That's three guys right there that are almost guaranteed faster than Reimer. Then add in Betts and CTB. Wasn't the transfer DB supposed to be a freak athlete too?

 

[Driveway Jordan]

Clearly he's faster than the 4.59 which you said was the fastest time on the team.

That's not what I said. Plus, who cares if he runs a 4.38 if he can't cover? He could be fuckin' Usain Bolt for all I care...did it show on the field? Did he catch David Bell from behind?

 

[Driveway Jordan]

He said 4.59, Reimer's time, was the fourth-fastest time on the team with Nance and two unknown players (each with unknown times) ahead of him.

Also, keep in mind that we're comparing electric times to handhelds yesterday.

Thank you.

 

[Pipe Line]

I trust my info. It's easy to cherry-pick individual players and say this guy looks fast or that guy looks fast...but do you think we have good team speed overall?? Did Bootle look fast when Olave from Ohio State ran right by him for a deep TD? Or when Imatorbhebhe from Illinois blew by him for a TD? Did our WRs have enough speed to get open more than 10 yards down field?

Point Being: I was bringing information to the board, that I consider to be very reliable and credible, regarding concerns within the program after Performance Testing about the lack of speed, particularly among certain position groups. I hope it turns out to be unfounded next fall. I guess we'll see.

My exact response on a post I made after that game as to why noone should be mad about that loss. Straight up out talented.

 

[Johannes de Silentio]

Still not buying it. Johnson, Nance, and Houston were all track guys. That's three guys right there that are almost guaranteed faster than Reimer. Then add in Betts and CTB. Wasn't the transfer DB supposed to be a freak athlete too?

I agree that it seems like some fuckery going on, but that may have been an equipment/technique problem.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I agree that it seems like some fuckery going on, but that may have been an equipment/technique problem.

Though I saw no evidence against teams that we recruit much better than that we are getting close to "out-athleting" any of them

 

[Johannes de Silentio]

Though I saw no evidence against teams that we recruit much better than that we are getting close to "out-athleting" any of them

The skill position guys that would be evidence of that either are very young and barely played, are already busts, or have left.

We've definitely had some dudes who are elite athletically, at least certainly by B1G West standards, in Washington, McCaffrey, and Wan'Dale. All are gone. I'm not going to buy into them translating to wins until I actually see something on the field, but strictly on paper Betts and Manning are definitely in that conversation, as well. Fidone is the same.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

The skill position guys that would be evidence of that either are very young and barely played, are already busts, or have left.

We've definitely had some dudes who are elite athletically, at least certainly by B1G West standards, in Washington, McCaffrey, and Wan'Dale. All are gone. I'm not going to buy into them translating to wins until I actually see something on the field, but strictly on paper Betts and Manning are definitely in that conversation, as well. Fidone is the same.

Blistering take alert. Wandale isn't an elite athlete

 

[Johannes de Silentio]

Blistering take alert. Wandale isn't an elite athlete

You have to take a nuanced approach with Wan'Dale. First of all, the expectations were set way too high with him during the recruitment: He was essentially sold as us getting a freshman-year Rondale Moore. They're both tiny dudes playing the slot, terrific highlights and production, from Kentucky, and they have Dale names. Reasonable. But it became clear very quickly that Wan'Dale wasn't nearly as fast as Moore. He was also more slightly built. Despite being super short himself, Moore is built quite sturdy.

All that being said, Wan'Dale still had elite quickness and change of direction. He was an elite-level slot receiver type in the B1G West. What he was not was a panacea for offensive ineptitude and lack of talent at several other positions. Watching him try to do all those vertical routes and pull in overthrown Martinez balls with his little T-Rex arms was something.

So, yes, I ultimately come down on the side of him not being that big of a loss to the program, but I think if we had some pieces around him he would have been a very effective weapon.

 

[Bootleg11]

I think this team has been slow. Zero home run hitters at WR and RB since Ozigbo.

 

[thE kErnEl]

Wonder how many times Farniok had to restart before completing the dash?

More times than you've have sex this year 😉