For the fact that I hate the transfer portal, I applaud and respect him much more that he is still here. Probably enjoys the celebrity status around campus.
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Inside Info Inside Info - Re: Performance Testing
- Thread starter Driveway Jordan
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They had to have some major problems.... Because at worst Manning, Betts and Toure are faster than 4.59.
So if this is true that is a big fucking problem... I just question if they were getting good numbers on the 40.
Didn't Betts run in the 4.4's at that camp?
Yes... He was a top 1% athlete. I frankly think all of them are 4.4 guys.
I also think Nixon and Brown would run below a 4.59. IIRC Nixon was a 10 second 100 guy. Brown looks quick, but not sure if he has that top end gear to run a fast 40 (I just haven't noticed him in the open field.)
Not saying OP is wrong, but I think there is problems with the system more than Reimer being the 4th fastest guy.
This should be the biggest team we have had in a long time, if not ever, but I would be surprised if there wasn't more WRs and DBs running sub 4.6's.
That isn't exactly asking for a lot from them..
Nixon tore his ACL in mid-July, so he's probably not up to full-speed yet.
Good point.... I thought he was more recovered.
If they forced out all the players who can’t play at Power 5 level, they might not be able to field a team.
I’m trying to reserve judgement until we see them play this fall but man, my excitement level for this season is dwindling fast. I think it all started when Frost brought back the lesbian grandma to coach the QBs
Should go back to NOT releasing any info on S&C testing at all...
@Pipe Line, how important for getting the best times is coaching the players to use the best technique for using this system?
Is it possible that those two linebackers were just better at getting out of the block and not causing an issue?
20-some years ago, I was coached for multiple sessions on how to do it best. Now (and back then), I'm slow as shit, but I have to wonder if coaching for the testing equipment has something to do with it, too.
Edited to make clear that I've never been fast.
Is it possible that those two linebackers were just better at getting out of the block and not causing an issue?
20-some years ago, I was coached for multiple sessions on how to do it best. Now (and back then), I'm slow as shit, but I have to wonder if coaching for the testing equipment has something to do with it, too.
Edited to make clear that I've never been fast.
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Love these kinds of conversations but I’ll do my best to keep this as short as I can. I’ll answer each paragraph one at a time
Extremely important. I’ve been out of it for about 5 years now but the electronic system I used was basically a dumbed down version of what they use for the NFL Combine. I’m sure it’s taken a step up or so since I’ve been out of it but same concept. The technique is critical. It’s the difference between “great timed speed” and “average”. You pull your thumb a hair too soon and you’re toast. There’s a bunch of biomechanics and timing with the sprinter position that goes with it but it’s very important, especially if you’re not naturally lightning quick and you’re doing this training to get faster. Now obviously I don’t know Zach’s exact S&C schedule but I know they don’t do a ton of running right now. Just enough to where they’re trying to improve 10/40 times but not enough to be considered conditioning. That’s what the Olympic/explosive/power day is for right now. Those 3 help out tremendously in the 10 yard dash and Vertical
Very possible. Detail and technique. I know it’s been said on here before that the WR room hasn’t had a true leader up to this point so maybe they haven’t cared as much about their technique which could contribute? However, I do lean more towards Sean’s claim of technical issues because again that stuff can go weird on any given for no reason at all. I’ve had a post test day or two over at X Edge where I was running the 10/40 station and for just some reason the system was sensitive and would start on a thumb flinch before high school athletes were even ready to run, which gets very frustrating. You either get 2 or 3 attempts at it depending on how Zach does it and I just find it really hard to believe that Nick Heinrich can out run Omar Manning atleast 2/3 times without technology issues. We’ve seen videos of him and I wouldn’t call Omar “bulked up” by any means. Also not trying to discredit @Driveway Jordan by any means, we know he’s a solid guy. I’m just going off my past experience
So actually during conditioning, on speed days, they do train and do sprints from the 3 point sprinter stance, and practice that movement hundreds of times as the program goes on. It’s not so much coaching I don’t think as it’s just attention to detail and focus. I should say it is coaching, yes, but it’s not the most complex thing in the world. I haven’t coached it in years and I remember every step and focal point cause I recited it so many times. I could still do it although it’d be slow as shit. It’s just making your body move as one and making everything smooth over and over again. It’s included in the conditioning program for days like testing day
4.38 is good.
Wonder how many times Farniok had to restart before completing the dash?
