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Frost Article - by Dennis Dodd

This is a great point. It's really really wild how far off the perception was from the reality. In 2017 he was seen as not only a potential genius at the game of football, but also the spearhead of this new modern youthful college football world that was about to take over.

He was beloved by his players who saw him as a cool as hell older brother, UCF's sideline was famous for goofy stunts, the entire program seemed like they were having a blast all the time, he would speak about CFB issues through a modern/futuristic lens, he had a charismatic star quality, he wore Yeezys, I mean... where the hell did that guy go?

It's still utterly bizarre to me that we go this guy instead:

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Truth here…I met a handful of his former UCF players…drank long into the night with them at the UCF/Memphis AAC championship game during Scotts last year there. They LOVED him, the culture, the atmosphere and everything he brought to their time playing there. That was not in doubt. I mean loved the guy.

The only thing I can come up with is the difference in expectations here, the 24/7 visibility a head coach here has, the legend status he instantly received while being here…and he just couldn’t handle that level of microscope. Wasn’t smart/strong enough to turn away from all the bad outside vices made available and wasn’t able to handle the pressure. Plain and simple.

Crazy.
 
Truth here…I met a handful of his former UCF players…drank long into the night with them at the UCF/Memphis AAC championship game during Scotts last year there. They LOVED him, the culture, the atmosphere and everything he brought to their time playing there. That was not in doubt. I mean loved the guy.

The only thing I can come up with is the difference in expectations here, the 24/7 visibility a head coach here has, the legend status he instantly received while being here…and he just couldn’t handle that level of microscope. Wasn’t smart/strong enough to turn away from all the bad outside vices made available and wasn’t able to handle the pressure. Plain and simple.

Crazy.
You don't get high on your own supply
 
Truth here…I met a handful of his former UCF players…drank long into the night with them at the UCF/Memphis AAC championship game during Scotts last year there. They LOVED him, the culture, the atmosphere and everything he brought to their time playing there. That was not in doubt. I mean loved the guy.

The only thing I can come up with is the difference in expectations here, the 24/7 visibility a head coach here has, the legend status he instantly received while being here…and he just couldn’t handle that level of microscope. Wasn’t smart/strong enough to turn away from all the bad outside vices made available and wasn’t able to handle the pressure. Plain and simple.

Crazy.
Yeah this seems spot on to me.
 
Truth here…I met a handful of his former UCF players…drank long into the night with them at the UCF/Memphis AAC championship game during Scotts last year there. They LOVED him, the culture, the atmosphere and everything he brought to their time playing there. That was not in doubt. I mean loved the guy.

The only thing I can come up with is the difference in expectations here, the 24/7 visibility a head coach here has, the legend status he instantly received while being here…and he just couldn’t handle that level of microscope. Wasn’t smart/strong enough to turn away from all the bad outside vices made available and wasn’t able to handle the pressure. Plain and simple.

Crazy.

Absolutely. Frost was the anti-O'Leary. UCF already had a lot of NFL-caliber players on that roster, and when Frost came in, the players were immediately drawn to him because his way was so different from O'Leary's. Right place and the right time for Frost.
 
Absolutely. Frost was the anti-O'Leary. UCF already had a lot of NFL-caliber players on that roster, and when Frost came in, the players were immediately drawn to him because his way was so different from O'Leary's. Right place and the right time for Frost.
Yep, exactly this. they called out that and said O’Leary was the worst and loved Scott’s laid back swagger style of coaching.

Side note, the bar sloots there were amazing…I’m sure Scott loved it there for many reasons.
 
This quote shows an amazing lack of self-awareness. .

"You think the Steelers [with the Immaculate Reception] said, 'We really got lucky and the ball [ticked] off somebody's foot and Franco Harris caught it. We shouldn't have won?' Frost said. "Whatever it takes, you win."

This asshole spent five years complaining about being unlucky, instead of taking responsibility for the record.

I think we have to consider the possibility that, in addition to all of his other flaws as a coach, he is actually, truly dumb.
Yeah, bad luck made him try an onside kick while winning.....
 
"I know this, there's some good coaches out there. I'm a good coach. I belong doing it," Frost said. "I just don't know for sure where that's going to be right now. If the right head coach job comes along, I'd take it. If the right coordinator job comes, I'd take it."

HUGE difference between Rhule and Frost, is the ability to self evaluate. Rhule failed at Carolina, not all this fault, but still a failure, he admits it and learned from it. I don't think Frost thinks his failure at Nebraska was on him. Article certainly paints it as Nebraska leadership's fault. If you can't evaluate what you failed at accurately it's hard to get better.

Frost just isn't likable. I didn't like him as a player, just comes off as an arrogant jerk. I thought maybe that was my misperception with his time at UCF, where he seemed to really get along with the players, then he came to Nebraska and even at his first press conference the arrogant jerk came out. Nebraska just isn't good for him, he needs to stay away. Seems to be more like Callahan, a white board and film guy that struggles with relationships and leadership. There is room for both in the coaching ranks, just not as HC.
 
"I know this, there's some good coaches out there. I'm a good coach. I belong doing it," Frost said. "I just don't know for sure where that's going to be right now. If the right head coach job comes along, I'd take it. If the right coordinator job comes, I'd take it."

HUGE difference between Rhule and Frost, is the ability to self evaluate. Rhule failed at Carolina, not all this fault, but still a failure, he admits it and learned from it. I don't think Frost thinks his failure at Nebraska was on him. Article certainly paints it as Nebraska leadership's fault. If you can't evaluate what you failed at accurately it's hard to get better.

Frost just isn't likable. I didn't like him as a player, just comes off as an arrogant jerk. I thought maybe that was my misperception with his time at UCF, where he seemed to really get along with the players, then he came to Nebraska and even at his first press conference the arrogant jerk came out. Nebraska just isn't good for him, he needs to stay away. Seems to be more like Callahan, a white board and film guy that struggles with relationships and leadership. There is room for both in the coaching ranks, just not as HC.
Yeah I was never a fan of his as a player either. Then when he came back to Lincoln after his NFL days were over, I had a personal connection. Lost a lot of respect for him then. I never wanted him as our coach. Glad he’s gone. All the things I saw in him as a player and in his time in Lincoln, were amplified in his time as our coach.
 
So honestly I used to think the "aura" of the layed back, up and coming OC turned HC, former player turned HC, but still kinda acts like a player at practice, relatable in a sense, deal was pretty cool. Then the losses piled up and it was clear we were an undisciplined football team. And that was no longer cool. Matt Rhule's polished, adult, CEO, HC, accountability like demeanor that has us at 3-0 with really not close at all games, is much much cooler. Much cooler than losing to Georgia Southern on our home turf.
 
Yeah I was never a fan of his as a player either. Then when he came back to Lincoln after his NFL days were over, I had a personal connection. Lost a lot of respect for him then. I never wanted him as our coach. Glad he’s gone. All the things I saw in him as a player and in his time in Lincoln, were amplified in his time as our coach.
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