Do you want Rhule to stay at Nebraska

[Bulldog10]

I’m out on Rhule. Not out as in fire him now, but out as in I can’t see it working here unless “working” to you is winning 7-9 games a year and accepting mediocrity. Most likely outcome imo is he limps to a 7-5 finish this year before getting his shit pushed in next year and having an ultra hot seat going into year 5. Probably gets fired mid season year 5.

 

[wildcat_husker]

Flipping a roster is easier than ever. HELLO INDIANA.

What Cignetti and Indiana have done is unprecedented. If we try to chase that, we'll repeat the last 12 years.

 

[Mavsker]

I've seen a lot of Barthel, and I could agree to an extent, but EJ is about to be our first 1k rusher since OZ.

IMO this is mainly because we only have one running back so we aren't splitting many carries. That's a tremendous failure in itself. I think we are 13th in the conference in rush yards per game.

 

[Bulldog10]

Okay, I have simmered down on my sandy vagina platform and feel ready to post.

I think something we all realize is that Rhule isn't going to mess around with coaches not getting the most out of players. What are moves he needs to make in the offseason?

I've seen a lot of Barthel, and I could agree to an extent, but EJ is about to be our first 1k rusher since OZ.

Obviously Donnie is the other one, but do we have to fire him, can we pull a Satterfield and hire an outside OL coach?

If Rhule is here next year, what moves do we need to make to have the most success next year?

So in 3 years Rhule will have fired/moved on from his entire pool of original on field assistants. Do we really trust him to hire the replacements? Maybe the guy making the decisions is the problem.

 

[Carm]

Statistically, coaches tend to have their biggest gains over the previous staff in year 2 and to a lesser extent in years 3 and 4. After that the returns start to flatten. So if they haven't made a huge jump by years 3-4 it's unlikely they ever will, and probably not worth holding on in hopes of a statistical anomaly in the name of stability. Sunken costs and all that. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.3233/JSA-190362

Maybe we're in the midst of a step-wise improvement this year, maybe not.

The whole competitive structure of the game has changed so much in the last several years I am not sure the history means much anymore.

 

[wildcat_husker]

So in 3 years Rhule will have fired/moved on from his entire pool of original on field assistants. Do we really trust him to hire the replacements? Maybe the guy making the decisions is the problem.

Normally we (fans) complain about the assistant coaches and want them fired but the head coach goes down with the ship.

Rhule does make changes that we all wanted and now we (fans) criticize him for not hiring the right guys.

The Holgorsen hire was universally loved but I would argue that the offense is playing below their potential while the defense is play above their potential. The OC is a former head coach and seasoned playcaller while the DC has very little experience as a DC.

 

[Ripping Lips]

What Cignetti and Indiana have done is unprecedented. If we try to chase that, we'll repeat the last 12 years.

In his first year yes. But i also remember usually the 2nd year of a coach is when the teams take the biggest jump such as Auburn when they hired Gus Malzahan. We even had a slight boost with Riley in year 2 and upset then #10 ranked MSU at home.

I think that we all can agree that spending money into athletic facilities is a sunk cost which hasn’t produced results yet from a recruiting or performance standpoint.

 

[vailhusker]

IMO this is mainly because we only have one running back so we aren't splitting many carries. That's a tremendous failure in itself. I think we are 13th in the conference in rush yards per game.

Unfortunately it's a misleading stat. The other teams are using more than one back and have more ile QBs.

 

[DrinkItIn]

Where does this sense of entitlement come from with some Nebraska fans? As many have pointed out, what’s happening at Indiana is an anomaly—it’s not the norm.

Now, if Nebraska were having a season like Wisconsin’s, I’d understand the calls for change. But that’s not our situation. Nebraska is making progress—it just isn’t happening fast enough for some of you.

Look around college football right now. Penn State fired James Franklin six games into the season—less than a year after a playoff run. Florida dumped Billy Napier midseason. Oklahoma State parted ways with Mike Gundy after more than two decades. Arkansas, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Oregon State, UAB, Colorado State and probably Auburn and Florida State soon—all have hit the reset button this year. That’s nine FBS head coaches fired this season already, and we’re not even to November.

It seems Rhule has brought structure, culture, and a foundation we haven’t had in years. It seems shortsighted to throw that away just because we’re not getting instant gratification.

TLDR: Rhule’s might be building something real. Nine FBS coaches already fired this season. Let’s not blow this up chasing the lottery—stability wins more often than desperation.

 

[Bulldog10]

Where does this sense of entitlement come from with some Nebraska fans? As many have pointed out, what’s happening at Indiana is an anomaly—it’s not the norm.

Now, if Nebraska were having a season like Wisconsin’s, I’d understand the calls for change. But that’s not our situation. Nebraska is making progress—it just isn’t happening fast enough for some of you.

Look around college football right now. Penn State fired James Franklin six games into the season—less than a year after a playoff run. Florida dumped Billy Napier midseason. Oklahoma State parted ways with Mike Gundy after more than two decades. Arkansas, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Oregon State, UAB, Colorado State and probably Auburn and Florida State soon—all have hit the reset button this year. That’s nine FBS head coaches fired this season already, and we’re not even to November.

It seems Rhule has brought structure, culture, and a foundation we haven’t had in years. It seems shortsighted to throw that away just because we’re not getting instant gratification.

TLDR: Rhule’s might be building something real. Nine FBS coaches already fired this season. Let’s not blow this up chasing the lottery—stability wins more often than desperation.

If you’re talking about me, I said “not fire right now” I still think think there’s a small chance he works out but he absolutely has to win 8 this year for it to work out imo. If you win 7 games that’s not really much of an improvement from last year and you have a hell of a schedule next year, that I don’t see any way to feel good about going into if we finish 7-5 this year.

We would never fire Rhule this year anyway, so hopefully the coaching carousel is a little more tame next year.

 

[Bulldog10]

Normally we (fans) complain about the assistant coaches and want them fired but the head coach goes down with the ship.

Rhule does make changes that we all wanted and now we (fans) criticize him for not hiring the right guys.

The Holgorsen hire was universally loved but I would argue that the offense is playing below their potential while the defense is play above their potential. The OC is a former head coach and seasoned playcaller while the DC has very little experience as a DC.

I would say that it’s a positive attribute to fire a coach or 2 if they aren’t performing, when you’ve fired the entire staff though I feel like you have to start asking questions about the one doing the hiring.

The Holgo hire was loved by fans but IMO has been completely underwhelming. A coach isn’t judged on how much the fans liked the hire, but on the results they create.

 

[Mavsker]

Where does this sense of entitlement come from with some Nebraska fans? As many have pointed out, what’s happening at Indiana is an anomaly—it’s not the norm.

Now, if Nebraska were having a season like Wisconsin’s, I’d understand the calls for change. But that’s not our situation. Nebraska is making progress—it just isn’t happening fast enough for some of you.

Look around college football right now. Penn State fired James Franklin six games into the season—less than a year after a playoff run. Florida dumped Billy Napier midseason. Oklahoma State parted ways with Mike Gundy after more than two decades. Arkansas, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Oregon State, UAB, Colorado State and probably Auburn and Florida State soon—all have hit the reset button this year. That’s nine FBS head coaches fired this season already, and we’re not even to November.

It seems Rhule has brought structure, culture, and a foundation we haven’t had in years. It seems shortsighted to throw that away just because we’re not getting instant gratification.

TLDR: Rhule’s might be building something real. Nine FBS coaches already fired this season. Let’s not blow this up chasing the lottery—stability wins more often than desperation.

I think Saturday will tell us a lot. I think we take care of business and a lot of the handwringing stops.

But...if you follow up getting nuked by Minnesota with dropping a home game to Northwestern, it's hard to see how you don't start losing some of the confidence of the fans, your recruits, and the probably your team. The hill just gets harder and harder to climb.

 

[DrinkItIn]

I think Saturday will tell us a lot. I think we take care of business and a lot of the handwringing stops.

But...if you follow up getting nuked by Minnesota with dropping a home game to Northwestern, it's hard to see how you don't start losing some of the confidence of the fans, your recruits, and the probably your team. The hill just gets harder and harder to climb.

I 100% agree. A win tomorrow would get things back on track. Another loss and the confidence in the direction of the program would start to slip, and rightfully so. I think tomorrow will tell us a lot about the mental makeup of this team.

 

[SlumpBuster]

Statistically, coaches tend to have their biggest gains over the previous staff in year 2 and to a lesser extent in years 3 and 4. After that the returns start to flatten. So if they haven't made a huge jump by years 3-4 it's unlikely they ever will, and probably not worth holding on in hopes of a statistical anomaly in the name of stability. Sunken costs and all that. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.3233/JSA-190362

Maybe we're in the midst of a step-wise improvement this year, maybe not.

Some of that is self inflation. Because coaches that don't improve by year 3 or 4 often don't get to year 5 to give us any data.

 

[RedDeanRedemption]

Where does this sense of entitlement come from with some Nebraska fans? As many have pointed out, what’s happening at Indiana is an anomaly—it’s not the norm.

Now, if Nebraska were having a season like Wisconsin’s, I’d understand the calls for change. But that’s not our situation. Nebraska is making progress—it just isn’t happening fast enough for some of you.

Look around college football right now. Penn State fired James Franklin six games into the season—less than a year after a playoff run. Florida dumped Billy Napier midseason. Oklahoma State parted ways with Mike Gundy after more than two decades. Arkansas, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Oregon State, UAB, Colorado State and probably Auburn and Florida State soon—all have hit the reset button this year. That’s nine FBS head coaches fired this season already, and we’re not even to November.

It seems Rhule has brought structure, culture, and a foundation we haven’t had in years. It seems shortsighted to throw that away just because we’re not getting instant gratification.

TLDR: Rhule’s might be building something real. Nine FBS coaches already fired this season. Let’s not blow this up chasing the lottery—stability wins more often than desperation.

Through 22 conference games:
Rhule - 8-14
Frost - 7-15

The expectations have already been lowered, how much lower do you expect people to go?

 

[king_kong_]

I 100% agree. A win tomorrow would get things back on track. Another loss and the confidence in the direction of the program would start to slip, and rightfully so. I think tomorrow will tell us a lot about the mental makeup of this team.

I don't think a win tomorrow will tell us anything

this is a spot we typically shine in - fake-tough bully on the block (us) gets to beat up the little twerp on the playground (NW)

November will tell us what we have in Rhule - 4 straight games fighting in our own weight class in Year Three.

 

[Dawgsauce]

. I’m not sure I can ever think of a time a coach got an extension after losing.

Norvell got his ass beaten, but everyone made excuses and ignored the program culture red flags. Undefeated season and then bowl game where players sat out to go to NFL, but so did some players that weren't heading to league. The other team players that went into draft ended up playing. (Dawg) He got an extension and they made 13-0 rings. The next year 2-10 and this year so far 3-4 and rumored that firing is about to happen.