Do you want Rhule to stay at Nebraska

[V-Doub]

Quick turnarounds aren’t unprecedented. But jumping from James Madison to a perennial bottom-dweller like Indiana and making them borderline elite in his first year, and sustaining it into year two, is unprecedented.

The portal and NIL may have changed the game, but what Cignetti’s doing still isn’t something we’ve really seen before at that scale and not something I think we'll see going forward.

Sure, Kiffin could go to Florida, bring a bunch of Ole Miss guys with him and do a quick turnaround. But that's not the same.

It’s unprecedented because the rules over the last 130 years wouldn’t allow it. It’s only been “legal” to take 10 players (or however many) from your former school and then buy additional talent with booster money for about 3 years. My point is it may not be that unprecedented after 10 years of NIL and the transfer portal.

 

[RedSavage]

Norvell got his ass beaten, but everyone made excuses and ignored the program culture red flags. Undefeated season and then bowl game where players sat out to go to NFL, but so did some players that weren't heading to league. The other team players that went into draft ended up playing. (Dawg) He got an extension and they made 13-0 rings. The next year 2-10 and this year so far 3-4 and rumored that firing is about to happen.

He did get smacked in that bowl game but he also went 13-0. Who knows if the game would’ve been any different with everyone playing. Probably to some extent. Might not not have been a good idea now but at the time you extend a coach that went 13-0, 10/10 times

 

[Irv]

Is it unprecedented? We’ve only had NIL and the transfer portal for what 3-4 years. What Cignetti is doing wouldn’t even have been possible 10-12 years ago with no transfer portal and NIL.

I’d argue we’ll see more Cignetti type “miraculous resurrections” in the coming years. Not tons, because there’s only room for 10 teams in the top 10. lol But I think the landscape has vastly changed in the last few years and the realities of that will become more and more evident with each passing year. And one thing I think we’ll see is more teams make miracle turnarounds like Indiana. All you have to do is marry a good coach with lots of money and I think that’s a simple enough plan for some schools to crack that code.

Conversely, we may also see teams drop off the map instantly as well. One year a team can be a playoff juggernaut, and the next year someone hires away their coach and he takes 8-10 players with him.

This is a good point. Texas Tech is kind of doing an Indiana with the same coach. They could have easily hired some guy and put together the essentially the same roster.

 

[Carm]

Through 22 conference games:
Rhule - 8-14
Frost - 7-15

3rd season conference record

Frost 1-8
Rhule 2-2

 

[Carm]

Is it unprecedented? We’ve only had NIL and the transfer portal for what 3-4 years. What Cignetti is doing wouldn’t even have been possible 10-12 years ago with no transfer portal and NIL.

It wasn't possible without Covid

 

[V-Doub]

It wasn't possible without Covid

Eh maybe, if he sustains success I think it becomes less about Covid and more about him being able to navigate the portal and NIL better than most.

 

[Dawgsauce]

He did get smacked in that bowl game but he also went 13-0. Who knows if the game would’ve been any different with everyone playing. Probably to some extent. Might not not have been a good idea now but at the time you extend a coach that went 13-0, 10/10 times

I wouldn't have because he didn't have a culture that wanted to compete despite what happened. Turns out I would've been right. His team has now quit on him 3 years in a row.

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

I’ll let the season play out. If he only wins one more game, he can go as far as I am concerned.

If he doesn’t win tomorrow I'll have hard time seeing them win anything left on the schedule.