This will fall on deaf ears. Zero doubt in my mind.
They’ll equate this to you saying everything is hunky dory.
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Are you out on Rhule?
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They’ll equate this to you saying everything is hunky dory.
Frost lost to Georgia Southern let’s not get carried away here
this I would gladly dispute
The conference is more watered down and top heavy than ever. It still boasts the worst P4 program in the country (Purdue) and half a dozen other putrid also rans.
We’ve won basically the same amount of conference games these last 3 years as we have with prior regimes.
Does this team beat our 2021 team? I honestly don’t know. It’s certainly not more talented.
Fair.
He also wasn’t even trying his final season. He was just coasting till he got fired and mad he didn’t get fired the year before. He wanted out at that point
Seriously dude, how old are you? Grow up or get the hell out Nobody minds your opinions but calling Rhule a little hairy skinny fat elf is for another board.
Yeah being out on Rhule is somehow becoming revisionist history in Frost's favor. Which IMHO says more about the ones doing that than Rhule.
What were participating in is called “a discussion”
In order to do so, you need to be able to think for yourself
Maybe one day, spud
The biggest piece of evidence against Matt Rhule currently is that he’s always said he’s a developmental head coach and he flat said in his opening presser that Nebraska is a developmental program.
The problem is we haven’t done that, his initial staff was not good enough and if we’re being honest with ourselves we all knew it wasn’t. This is not a league where you can hire people who have not had success at any level and make them coordinators or position coaches. Satterfield and McGuire were never going to cut it here and Wager didn’t even coach a game. While I don’t subscribe to the notion that someone who’s successful at other levels of football can’t succeed in the big ten, there was less experience in his first staff than there was on Frost’s staff.
But also, in this day and age in college football waiting 2-3 years for guys to develop is kind of a thing of the past. This is the NFL with the caveat that every one of your players is on a one year deal and has no obligation to come back. So you can’t fall in love with players that you think can be something some day. You have to bring in guys who can help you day 1.
Can't wait until we can stop comparing to the bottomless pit of the Frost years. Thought in year 3 we'd be beyond that. To me we're better, but who gives a shit. I can be a bit better at my job than the lazy drunk no-show who had it before me and no one is going to give me a cookie.
Only need to ask ourselves
- what is the standard for the head coach at Nebraska, and
- is Rhule meeting that standard or not?
Hopefully in 2026 we can stop excusing our shit play by pointing out that we were shit in 2022 too
Only need to ask ourselves
- what is the standard for the head coach at Nebraska, and
- is Rhule meeting that standard or not?
Hopefully in 2026 we can stop excusing our shit play by pointing out that we were shit in 2022 too
Better is all relative. It just depends on what we want to live it.
So far Rhule is a way worse Pelini. Wins games he should. Gets anal raped in big games.
He’s Marginally better than frost.
Hes already getting to 6 wins but also who gives a shit about 6-7 win seasons these days
Agree with all of this. I actually think Rhule has done well to elevate our program to a modern, national borderline elite program (from an organizational standpoint). If you remember when Frost was fired this program was not looked at well from a national perspective. Rhule has elevated it for sure.
Unfortunately he's wrecked the good things he's built with:
- Bad assistant hires
- Missing on Jeff Sims
- Dom/Donnie/Dylan/Dayton mess (not really MR's fault)
- Rough in-game decisions
- Bad roster management going into 2025 season
Biggest challenges moving forward:
- Roster is thin going into 2026
- We'll have $$$ for portal but can we win bidding wars? We are a 7-6 program
I'm willing to back Rhule bc I think he's built a good program from an org standpoint. I think he's smart enough to learn from his roster building mistake in 2025. However my big concern is that we miss out on all of the elite portal targets we go after due to our team being "too far away from CFP." I worry that these last 3 games are going to do damage to our portal bidding wars. In this sense, it might have been better to NOT be in the Vegas Bowl bc that was an ugly show (thankfully everyone was watch UM-UT).
In the past, we've needed the Isaiah Worlds and the Walter Rouses to sign here....but we lose out on them bc they want to play for a team that's closer to the CFP. Money doesn't necessarily always talk. NU needs SO MANY players right now. I'm skeptical that we can get enough to turn this roster around in one year.
Exactly why I asked. 👍
It’s tough to get Frost’s average win total as he had Covid as well as 3 games in 2022. Let’s just say that I’m not betting on a guy with a 33% winning percentage to dramatically do something he had never done regardless of schedule this year.
Yep. On top of that, I was critical of the Butler hire (as DC) and Bradden. It’s not that they couldn’t be good but it’s too risky in our current situation.
If our “development” doesn’t show next year, we’re in trouble. But there are promising young guys on defense (Pietrzak, Merritt, Nwaneri, Davis, etc.) — we need to bring in a couple guys who have a big, big impact. Which is easier said than done.
And Frost had the benefit of playing the worst P5 program you listed every year while here.
Also Frost wouldn't have had Dylan Raiola this year. Which you could argue isn't a bad thing but outside of Mckenzie Milton, Frost hasn't done a great job of picking QBs.
One thing we've learned during this whole B1G vs SEC discussion this bowl season - those teams like MSU, NW, Maryland, even UCLA....they are not the pushovers that every NU fan says they are.
My money is on Fraudst losing to all 4 of those teams.
One could argue that Aurich is a very risky hire as well..
They weren’t the worst when he was here.
Indiana and northwestern were (frost lost to both).
I’m not saying frost is better than Rhule. He’s not. Obviously.
I am saying Rhule being ever so slightly better than frost is nothing to celebrate and in fact probably a bigger kick to the nuts than taking a big swing on a legacy who was the hottest coach in the country when hired.
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