Are you out on Rhule?

[king_kong_]

we're a pretty soft team under Rhule

it's obvious he wants to run a pass-first program

next year's schedule is pretty daunting if we don't toughen up and find even a tiny commitment to the run game

 

[Alcaus]

We won by double digits

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Not really though. You see the game wasn’t perfect so the score in these retards minds was closer than it actually was.

 

[Chi7397]

No. That’s not at all what I said.

If you read my original post on this, I stated I wasn’t out, but don’t believe we’re going to have his typical year three leap.

We finish 6-6 again, or even 7-5 and I’m not going to be happy at all and will seriously wonder if he’s the guy to take us to the next level….which right now is just winning a piddly 9 or 10 games a year like Pelini did.

There’s a world of difference between Pelini’s 9 wins and winning 9 now in the P2 era IMO.

 

[king_kong_]

There’s a world of difference between Pelini’s 9 wins and winning 9 now in the P2 era IMO.

unbalanced schedules still make those pelini-esque win totals possible

see: indiana last year

 

[Quint]

There’s a world of difference between Pelini’s 9 wins and winning 9 now in the P2 era IMO.

Depending on the schedule you draw in the B1G or SEC, sure. Our schedules the last two years were certainly no tougher than anything Pelini’s teams went up against, likely at least a little easier. That isn’t static, so next years might be tougher.

 

[Driveway Jordan]

I'm out on James Franklin.

 

[nscottie]

I'm out on James Franklin.

I think that’s something we can all get behind

 

[Quint]

I'm out on James Franklin.

So’s my neighbor.

She’s a PSU grad and has an extremely high level of ass pain after the loss to UCLA. Had a meltdown after Oregon beat them and said he needed to get serious or get gone.

 

[Ripping Lips]

So’s my neighbor.

She’s a PSU grad and has an extremely high level of ass pain after the loss to UCLA. Had a meltdown after Oregon beat them and said he needed to get serious or get gone.

PSU fans better be careful what they ask for since they are starting to sound like Nebraska fans wanting Solich fired and unhappy with Pelini's 9 win floor.

 

[Quint]

PSU fans better be careful what they ask for since they are starting to sound like Nebraska fans wanting Solich fired and unhappy with Pelini's 9 win floor.

She’s always sounded just like most of our fans when we joined the B1G.

‘Penn State will own the B1G again with Franklin'.

Now they’ve had their years and he did win one conference title in ’16, but they haven’t owned shit.

That said, gas him and see where that gets you.

 

[Kaladin]

We still crabby about winning you guys?

 

[Quint]

We still crabby about winning you guys?

Crabby? No.

Convinced this team has weaknesses that keep this from being a breakout year?

Yep.

No emotion involved. Just my opinion.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

Crabby? No.

Convinced this team has weaknesses that keep this from being a breakout year?

Yep.

No emotion involved. Just my opinion.

Define breakout year

 

[Quint]

Define breakout year

What’s been yaked about since he got here. Third years at Temple/Baylor with double digit wins and a shot at a CCG. Breakout, not slow progression. I’m also not the one who set that expectation.

For me, we win 10 with no CCG appearance and I’ll absolutely call that a breakout season.

I don’t see that happening, but would absolutely love it.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Define breakout year

I'd say finishing the season in the top 20. That'd meet my "breakout year" standard I think.

 

[Quint]

I'd say finishing the season in the top 20. That'd meet my "breakout year" standard I think.

I can get behind that.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

What’s been yaked about since he got here. Third years at Temple/Baylor with double digit wins and a shot at a CCG. Breakout, not slow progression. I’m also not the one who set that expectation.

For me, we win 10 with no CCG appearance and I’ll absolutely call that a breakout season.

I don’t see that happening, but would absolutely love it.

Fair enough. My definition is increasing win total by 50% so a 9-3 finish would meet my definition. 3 or 4 losses would have to be the new floor going forward.

 

[Dawgsauce]

No. That’s not at all what I said.

If you read my original post on this, I stated I wasn’t out, but don’t believe we’re going to have his typical year three leap.

We finish 6-6 again, or even 7-5 and I’m not going to be happy at all and will seriously wonder if he’s the guy to take us to the next level….which right now is just winning a piddly 9 or 10 games a year like Pelini did.

10 games a year not the same now as when Pelini got 10. That gets you in playoffs most years probably.

 

[Quint]

Fair enough. My definition is increasing win total by 50% so a 9-3 finish would meet my definition. 3 or 4 losses would have to be the new floor going forward.

I picked this team to go 9-3 coming into the season and would be perfectly happy with that.

I’m also in 100% agreement on the floor being 4 losses. Can’t throw a 7-5 or 6-6 year in there and say ‘It’s a process’.

 

[Quint]

10 games a year not the same now as when Pelini got 10. That gets you in playoffs most years probably.

Again, it’s not static.

Winning 10 with our ’24 or ’25 schedules likely leaves us outside the playoffs.