“NFL-style”

[Husker1]

Curious to get everyone’s thoughts on the “NFL-style” the talking heads are telling us to get used to. Certainly don’t mind a defense-first team, but with a pretty mediocre offense, don’t we also need solid special teams? Cockeye is getting referenced a lot, but Cockeye has historically had an elite defense AND elite special teams. We currently have an elite defense, but very mediocre offense, and bad special teams. Weird that Rhule said he likes playing this way, but that he also doesn’t like special teams. That seems incongruent.

 

[nja13]

I think the "NFL-style" football, protecting leads, keeping bodies fresh, etc., is a separate and unrelated discussion from our shitty special teams.

 

[herbsinator]

Curious to get everyone’s thoughts on the “NFL-style” the talking heads are telling us to get used to. Certainly don’t mind a defense-first team, but with a pretty mediocre offense, don’t we also need solid special teams? Cockeye is getting referenced a lot, but Cockeye has historically had an elite defense AND elite special teams. We currently have an elite defense, but very mediocre offense, and bad special teams. Weird that Rhule said he likes playing this way, but that he also doesn’t like special teams. That seems incongruent.

Link to where he’s said he “doesn’t like” special teams?

 

[turek420845]

We are going to take former NFL players and get them enrolled, so they can play. Hope that helps.

 

[Sous Chef]

Link to where he’s said he “doesn’t like” special teams?

Every time he defends Foley's job performance by bringing up the one or two good/average plays our ST made in a game that's what I hear. Might just be me though.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I think it's silly to try to grind out games in college like he does. These players don't execute like pros and it's a much higher variance sport where you're going to need to score touchdowns regularly to keep up with teams, and sometimes not even the great ones.

Tough to say if through the first six games we've seen a pragmatic approach because he knows what the team is and what it isn't or if this has been the intended long term result, but I suspect that will come to a head in Bloomington

 

[Adolph Coors]

it was obvious from game 1….

 

[Husker1]

Link to where he’s said he “doesn’t like” special teams?

Here’s one!

SP+ rankings for all 134 FBS teams after Week 6

It is close at the top of this week's rankings, but the Texas Longhorns remain in the top spot.

www.espn.com

129th in the country. If he likes special teams but we’ve been rated poorly each year he’s been here, then he must not have a handle on it. Are you calling Matt Rhule incompetent? Most of us on here like Matt Rhule, why are you calling him a bad coach?

 

[mcgradynu]

Here’s one!

SP+ rankings for all 134 FBS teams after Week 6

It is close at the top of this week's rankings, but the Texas Longhorns remain in the top spot.

www.espn.com

129th in the country. If he likes special teams but we’ve been rated poorly each year he’s been here, then he must not have a handle on it. Are you calling Matt Rhule incompetent? Most of us on here like Matt Rhule, why are you calling him a bad coach?

I’m pretty confident that we are going to see a change at Special Teams Coordinator but he’s not going to remove Foley mid season. I suspect that Special Teams and run blocking are the two major points they are looking at over the bye. They didn’t bring in Maher for nothing. But let’s also not forget that we’ve had some really bad luck mixed in with that unit as well with Alvano’s injury and long snapper issues. For sure some of that is on the staff for not having suitable “next men up” but we’re also early in the rebuild. I’m bullish on Maher’s impact on kicking.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Here’s one!

SP+ rankings for all 134 FBS teams after Week 6

It is close at the top of this week's rankings, but the Texas Longhorns remain in the top spot.

www.espn.com

129th in the country. If he likes special teams but we’ve been rated poorly each year he’s been here, then he must not have a handle on it. Are you calling Matt Rhule incompetent? Most of us on here like Matt Rhule, why are you calling him a bad coach?

Great point. Our special teams must suck only because Rhule doesn't like special teams. He must also not like scoring 50 points a game on offense because we clearly don't do that either. If only Rhule would change his mindset, we'd dominate! /s

Come on man. Do you honestly think Rhule likes the performance of our special teams right now? Rhule's no idiot, he clearly knows that aspect of our team needs to improve. Bringing on Maher mid-season shows he's trying to improve them.

 

[Husker1]

Great point. Our special teams must suck only because Rhule doesn't like special teams. He must also not like scoring 50 points a game on offense because we clearly don't do that either. If only Rhule would change his mindset, we'd dominate! /s

Come on man. Do you honestly think Rhule likes the performance of our special teams right now? Rhule's no idiot, he clearly knows that aspect of our team needs to improve. Bringing on Maher mid-season shows he's trying to improve them.

He doesn’t like scoring 50. He’s been very clear that he likes to win by getting up by a couple scores, then sitting on it to protect the lead. Special teams has been an issue for Rhule at nearly all his stops save for a couple seasons where they were mediocre. His offenses have also been mediocre throughout his career. The point of my post was that if we are going to be a team that wins “NFL-style”, and we aren’t going to try and score a bunch of points, then we have to be really good on defense AND special teams. We won’t win many more games if we only win 1 out of the 3 phases.

 

[Alcaus]

Here’s one!

SP+ rankings for all 134 FBS teams after Week 6

It is close at the top of this week's rankings, but the Texas Longhorns remain in the top spot.

www.espn.com

129th in the country. If he likes special teams but we’ve been rated poorly each year he’s been here, then he must not have a handle on it. Are you calling Matt Rhule incompetent? Most of us on here like Matt Rhule, why are you calling him a bad coach?

 

[Husker1]

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[herbsinator]

Here’s one!

SP+ rankings for all 134 FBS teams after Week 6

It is close at the top of this week's rankings, but the Texas Longhorns remain in the top spot.

www.espn.com

129th in the country. If he likes special teams but we’ve been rated poorly each year he’s been here, then he must not have a handle on it. Are you calling Matt Rhule incompetent? Most of us on here like Matt Rhule, why are you calling him a bad coach?

You are truly too stupid to engage with. Good luck in your future endeavors.

 

[Husker1]

You are truly too stupid to engage with. Good luck in your future endeavors.

Relax, pal - just having a little fun, no need for name calling

 

[Stan Raymond]

He doesn’t like scoring 50. He’s been very clear that he likes to win by getting up by a couple scores, then sitting on it to protect the lead. Special teams has been an issue for Rhule at nearly all his stops save for a couple seasons where they were mediocre. His offenses have also been mediocre throughout his career. The point of my post was that if we are going to be a team that wins “NFL-style”, and we aren’t going to try and score a bunch of points, then we have to be really good on defense AND special teams. We won’t win many more games if we only win 1 out of the 3 phases.

Not buying that. Rhule has said that the second half offense was to conservative. Said we should have scored more in another game. Yes, he wants to take a multiple score lead and then have long time consuming and scoring drives. But that's just being smart, not that "He doesn't like scoring 50". When you have a lead late in the game, you take fewer risks as turnovers are the easiest way for the opponent to get back in a game. It's far better in my opinion to secure a win than to run up the score.

 

[nja13]

Link to where he’s said he “doesn’t like” special teams?

I don't have a link (googling Matt Rhule and special teams right now gets a shitton of results), but I remember the quote OP is referring to.

At one point, maybe going into last season, Rhule said coaching special teams has never really been his thing and that's why he always has a special teams coordinator. He may not have said the exact words, but the message he was conveying was defintley "I don't like coaching special teams."

Now, that doesn't mean Rhule dosen't mind his special teams sucking or doesn't recognized the importantce of them. He just said it's something he doesn't coach personally.

 

[whoboppin]

You guys need to relax. Its year 2 and we are still on the come up. Our offense was Cockeye level bad last year, maybe even worse when you factor in turnovers. Nebraska is just inconsistent right now. Inconsistency is a hell of a lot better then the travesty that we saw on offense last year.

By this time next year Raiola will be throwing for 300+ yards and 3 TDs a game. Gonna be fun.

 

[Husker1]

Not buying that. Rhule has said that the second half offense was to conservative. Said we should have scored more in another game. Yes, he wants to take a multiple score lead and then have long time consuming and scoring drives. But that's just being smart, not that "He doesn't like scoring 50". When you have a lead late in the game, you take fewer risks as turnovers are the easiest way for the opponent to get back in a game. It's far better in my opinion to secure a win than to run up the score.

Temple 2013 - 24.9ppg

Temple 2014 - 23.1ppg

Temple 2015 - 29.8ppg

Temple 2016 - 32.4ppg

Baylor 2017 - 24.3ppg

Baylor 2018 - 29.5ppg

Baylor 2019 - 33.6ppg

Carolina 2020 - 21.9ppg

Carolina 2021 - 17.9ppg

Carolina 2022 - 18.6ppg

Nebraska 2023 - 18.0ppg

Nebraska 2024 - 28.0ppg

Career Average - 25.1ppg

All time, his teams have scored 30ppg or more 43 times out of 108 games.

Since 2020, his teams have scored 30ppg or more only 7 times out of 56 games.

Rhule is who he is. His offenses have been generally mediocre, which is fine, so long as the other two phases of the game are solid. Right now, special teams isn’t solid, so it’s a concern moving forward. That’s all I’m saying.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

Temple 2013 - 24.9ppg

Temple 2014 - 23.1ppg

Temple 2015 - 29.8ppg

Temple 2016 - 32.4ppg

Baylor 2017 - 24.3ppg

Baylor 2018 - 29.5ppg

Baylor 2019 - 33.6ppg

Carolina 2020 - 21.9ppg

Carolina 2021 - 17.9ppg

Carolina 2022 - 18.6ppg

Nebraska 2023 - 18.0ppg

Nebraska 2024 - 28.0ppg

Career Average - 25.1ppg

All time, his teams have scored 30ppg or more 43 times out of 108 games.

Since 2020, his teams have scored 30ppg or more only 7 times out of 56 games.

Rhule is who he is. His offenses have been generally mediocre, which is fine, so long as the other two phases of the game are solid. Right now, special teams isn’t solid, so it’s a concern moving forward. That’s all I’m saying.

You really putting NFL & CFB averages together?

And leaving out that 3 (or 4) of those years are him taking over struggling programs with low-skill rosters?

And that in both previous CFB stops he increased scoring by 30%+ percent in 2 years?

These are Ralph Wiggum statistics.