Breaking JoBu Out

[V-Doub]

Ya... if Tony White OK'd hiring a guy that said that, I'm fine with it. Otherwise you are hiring someone to take his spot or move on after a year, both not ok with DC White.

Tony White at Florida State makes no difference to me, I care about how people do at Nebraska. People that bring up how he's doing in Tallahassee to make some point about his time in Nebraska confuse me.

We can crown Tony White as way better than Butler almost certainly, despite people that were telling me otherwise when the hire was made. But acting as if Tony White wasn't that great here is comical. I'll update the list with 2025 results since you're still arguing, if Tony White wasn't an "extremely good" coordinator for Nebraska we are screwed forever with our standards:

2014 - Tim Beck (10th)
2023 - Tony White (11th)
2024 - Tony White (20th)
2016 - Mark Banker (30th)
2012 - Tim Beck (37th)
2021 - Erik Chinander (37th)
2015 - Danny Langsdorf (37th)
2013 - John Papuchis (42nd)
2011 - Tim Beck (46th)
2011 - Carl Pelini (46th)
2013 - Tim Beck (52nd)
2014 - John Papuchis (53rd)
2018 - Troy Walters (54th)
2025 - John Butler (57th)
2019 - Erik Chinander (61st)
2012 - John Papuchis (63rd)
2019 - Troy Walters (63rd)
2020 - Erik Chinander (64th)
2015 - Mark Banker (65th)
2025 - Dana Holgerson (67th)
2016 - Danny Langsdorf (74th)
2022 - Erik Chinander/Bill Busch (75th)
2021 - Matt Lubick (79th)
2017 - Danny Langsdorf (80th)
2018 - Erik Chinander (94th)
2024 - Marcus Satterfield/Dana Holgerson (98th)
2020 - Matt Lubick (101st)
2022 - Mark Whipple (101st)
2017 - Bob Diaco (114th)
2023 - Marcus Satterfield (120th)

We have a very small sample size for JoBu, but the numbers we do have say TW is/was a considerably better DC. And I’m not convinced that TW is a good/great DC, but I’m pretty comfortable saying he’s better than JoBu. Despite the small sample size.

 

[Bootleg11]

I mean, to me that means he is going to hire from outside the program vs hiring Addison Williams or Dvorcheck or Snow.

Go through a process and find the right guy.

Felt like that last year and then ended up with JoBu right? FWIW I'm guessing this is an outside hire.

 

[SOHusker11]

Afalava?

No. Ernie Suttles?

 

[Flabio]

Get Divorsack out of here for a LB coach who can recruit and coach at a high level. Or move him back to an assistant to the LB coach.

 

[realbp]

I mean, to me that means he is going to hire from outside the program vs hiring Addison Williams or Dvorcheck or Snow.

Go through a process and find the right guy.

If the hire isn't from the outside it is a major whiff by HCMR. No one on staff should be considered to be the DC.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

Get Divorsack out of here for a LB coach who can recruit and coach at a high level. Or move him back to an assistant to the LB coach.

Hire an elite DC and let him tell you who his assistant coaches are. Period

 

[djw004]

Gonna try to get back on track in this thread rather than arguing with Husker fans who think a DC that had us with the 11th and 20th ranked scoring defenses while he was here wasn't extremely good. It's why I think Nebraska fans are just doomed to be miserable if that's not good enough for us.

While I wasn't that excited about the Butler hire, I didn't think it was bad. I always think continuity on your staff can be an equalizer if you are down on talent to another team because your guys can play faster knowing the scheme. So a little frustrated with that, but excited to see which route Rhule goes on this. If he can bring in someone like Ekeler things can turn in a hurry, that guy got our special teams right in one season.

If I see you post the numbers 1 1 th and 2 0 th consecutively again, I'm going to be forced to give you a very mean GIF.

 

[V-Doub]

I do like the quick action timing. If you are planning to go to the portal and bring in some serious Jimmys and Joes, you need to have a serious DC in place to make the pitch to them that we are a serious place.

We all know we need some serious talent at the DL position and a big DC splash hire, helps get the right bodies here.

That’s why this has to be a BIG hire. You don’t do this right now to promote some assistant or grab a position coach from the NFL. You make a splash hire, hopefully someone who can bring a few players with him and then you capitalize on his cachet and recruit the portal hard.

 

[Irv]

I mean, to me that means he is going to hire from outside the program vs hiring Addison Williams or Dvorcheck or Snow.

Go through a process and find the right guy.

That’s what I was implying. Also leaves open guys who are working for a while.

 

[SOHusker11]

So it would've been fine if he wanted to be a DC "sooner than later" as long as TW got to hire him? Sounds like the comment isn't really the issue then.

Regardless, Tony White didn't exactly kill it this year. In his place, we had a slightly worse scoring defense by ~4 ppg, slightly better total defense and yards per play. We improved our pass defense and got worse in run defense.

All of this with clearly worse defensive personnel.

You can comfortably say that Butler wasn't the answer, but can we stop crowning Tony White already?

Amen.

 

[vailhusker]

Really good point!

If I'm going to get fired like Butler did I'm going to make sure it's going to be with my guys and not with some that someone else picked.

 

[HerbRedman]

We have a very small sample size for JoBu, but the numbers we do have say TW is/was a considerably better DC. And I’m not convinced that TW is a good/great DC, but I’m pretty comfortable saying he’s better than JoBu. Despite the small sample size.

If you'll recall, when we were analyzing QB play, a lot of folks on here said the UCLA game didn't count, bc UCLA has "the worst defense in the B1G." To which I said, what does that make us?

We had 5 common opponents: MD, MSU, NW, PSU and USC.

• PSU/USC: identical pts allowed for each defense
• NW/MD/MSU: UCLA held all 3 to 31 less pts than we did

So if UCLA had the worst D in the B1G then maybe Butler DID deserve to get fired!

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Get Divorsack out of here for a LB coach who can recruit and coach at a high level. Or move him back to an assistant to the LB coach.

I don't know what to think of Rob. I felt he had a good first 2 years, but how much of this year was a reflection of scheme/DL play? How much of the first 2 years was scheme/DL play?

 

[V-Doub]

If you'll recall, when we were analyzing QB play, a lot of folks on here said the UCLA game didn't count, bc UCLA has "the worst defense in the B1G." To which I said, what does that make us?

We had 5 common opponents: MD, MSU, NW, PSU and USC.

• PSU/USC: identical pts allowed for each defense
• NW/MD/MSU: UCLA held all 3 to 31 less pts than we did

So if UCLA had the worst D in the B1G then maybe Butler DID deserve to get fired!

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I’m not one to say if he DESERVED to be fired. But he sure as shit wasn’t good enough for me to lose any sleep over it. Just don’t fuck up replacing him… Rhule.

 

[Alcaus]

I don't know what to think of Rob. I felt he had a good first 2 years, but how much of this year was a reflection of scheme/DL play? How much of the first 2 years was scheme/DL play?

Losing MJ Sherman had a big impact I think.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Losing MJ Sherman had a big impact I think.

I think it was bigger than most care to admit. He wasn't a sexy player, but he could win on the edge.

 

[redzoner]

I think it was bigger than most care to admit. He wasn't a sexy player, but he could win on the edge.

I think Bullock was a way bigger loss than Sherman. Sherman wasn't on the field a lot of plays last year.

 

[Alcaus]

I think Bullock was a way bigger loss than Sherman. Sherman wasn't on the field a lot of plays last year.

Dude played 670+ snaps in two years, 350+ in 2024... He was our starting JACK... tf are you talking about?

 

[redzoner]

Dude played 670+ snaps in two years, 350+ in 2024... He was our starting JACK... tf are you talking about?

Dude had 29 tackles last year. He may have started but we brought Princewell in a lot for him.

Gbayor was probably a bigger loss than him as well.

 

[Quint]

I liked JoBu the man but glad to see more proof Rhule isn't fucking around.

I have to think he knows ’26 is pretty freaking important to his tenure.