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We must have a real enticing recruiting visit pitch

We agree on this. Some of you City boys don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground about the geography of the state
Does this mean that you and I need to be friends now? Do I need to send you a funny, clever birthday card or call you to grab a beer when I’m back east? This is a concerning turn of events, Tone. Help me out here……😎





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Rhule mentioned this as well today on the podcast. He was thinking Lincoln would be like Stillwater, OK., but was blown away by the city of Lincoln.

I'm starting to realize that most people don't know much about anything when it comes to geography and population levels of cities/metro areas, etc.
This is what I've been saying for many years and this Rouse thing is a perfect example. Not only is Nebraska a great visit place... but we really benefit from low expectations.

Our opposing fans actually HELP us in this regard bc all they do is fill twitter with "you're visiting Nebraska? Enjoy the cornfields" and "no one lives in Nebraska" and "everyone drives around in tractors in Nebraska"... HS players see this banter online and actually believe it (bc it confirms what they already thought). They get a UNL visit invite and they go 'OK, I'll go, but I'm not excited about the cornfields." Then they get to Lincoln and they're completely blown away.

In reality, Lincoln is actually the 3rd biggest city in the entire Big Ten behind Columbus and Minneapolis. 3rd biggest! But our fuckin idiot rivals are actually helping our cause by setting the expectations so low with all their "nothing but cornfields there" talk. If they wanted to actually hurt us they should talk UP Lincoln so that it could never live up to expectations. But they're too stubborn and insecure for that.... so they're sticking with the "nothing but cornfields" line probably until the end of time. And I hope they do! It's really helping our recruiting.
 
This is what I've been saying for many years and this Rouse thing is a perfect example. Not only is Nebraska a great visit place... but we really benefit from low expectations.

Our opposing fans actually HELP us in this regard bc all they do is fill twitter with "you're visiting Nebraska? Enjoy the cornfields" and "no one lives in Nebraska" and "everyone drives around in tractors in Nebraska"... HS players see this banter online and actually believe it (bc it confirms what they already thought). They get a UNL visit invite and they go 'OK, I'll go, but I'm not excited about the cornfields." Then they get to Lincoln and they're completely blown away.

In reality, Lincoln is actually the 3rd biggest city in the entire Big Ten behind Columbus and Minneapolis. 3rd biggest! But our fuckin idiot rivals are actually helping our cause by setting the expectations so low with all their "nothing but cornfields there" talk. If they wanted to actually hurt us they should talk UP Lincoln so that it could never live up to expectations. But they're too stubborn and insecure for that.... so they're sticking with the "nothing but cornfields" line probably until the end of time. And I hope they do! It's really helping our recruiting.
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In reality, Lincoln is actually the 3rd biggest city in the entire Big Ten behind Columbus and Minneapolis. 3rd biggest! B
That's a little misleading. The Ann Arbor Metro area has 375K people, and the Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor CSA has 5.5M. New Brunswick NJ is part of the NY Metro area.
 
That's a little misleading. The Ann Arbor Metro area has 375K people, and the Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor CSA has 5.5M. New Brunswick NJ is part of the NY Metro area.
That's funny, because Michigan's own flagship newspaper disagrees with you.

We're talking about a very specific thing here: curb appeal when a HS kid gets off the plane. In that situation he's seeing the college town proper. Metro area not entirely relevant in this discussion. If you're counting those you may as well include Omaha w Lincoln (but again it's not relevant to this specific thing - you only have 24-36 hrs to take it in as a HS kid).

And BTW NO ONE considers Piscataway part of NYC. Literally no one.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbo...ns-biggest-cities-after-us-census-update.html
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That's funny, because Michigan's own flagship newspaper disagrees with you.

We're talking about a very specific thing here: curb appeal when a HS kid gets off the plane. In that situation he's seeing the college town proper. Metro area not entirely relevant in this discussion. If you're counting those you may as well include Omaha w Lincoln (but again it's not relevant to this specific thing - you only have 24-36 hrs to take it in as a HS kid).

And BTW NO ONE considers Piscataway part of NYC. Literally no one.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbo...ns-biggest-cities-after-us-census-update.html
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I live 20 miles from Ann Arbor.

Yes, no one says Piscataway is part of NYC. But aren't you really talking about what there is to do in an area, which is driven by population density?

If you are talking about what students can get to as far as things to do without a car, that is a smaller area than Lincoln. If it is with a car, that can encompass a lot of possibilities in reasonable driving distance in the NY Metro.

If the population density of the accessible region isn't what this comparison should be about, I am at a loss as to what value or meaning it has.

Lincoln MSA

342,117 Population [2021] – Estimate

3,649 km² Area

93.75/km² Population Density [2021]

Ann Arbor MSA

369,390 Population [2021] – Estimate


1,829 km² Area

202.0/km² Population Density [2021]

(BTW MLive is not Michigan's flagship newspaper. If there is one, it would be either the Free Press or the News)
 
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I live 20 miles from Ann Arbor.

Yes, no one says Piscataway is part of NYC. But aren't you really talking about what there is to do in an area, which is driven by population density?

If you are talking about what students can get to as far as things to do without a car, that is a smaller area than Lincoln. If it is with a car, that can encompass a lot of possibilities in reasonable driving distance in the NY Metro.

If the population density of the accessible region isn't what this comparison should be about, I am at a loss as to what value or meaning it has.

Lincoln MSA

342,117 Population [2021] – Estimate

3,649 km² Area

93.75/km² Population Density [2021]

Ann Arbor MSA

369,390 Population [2021] – Estimate

1,829 km² Area

202.0/km² Population Density [2021]
Does population density correlate with "things to do" directly? I wouldn't be surprised if it does just curious how this is being determined if we're breaking this thing down.
 
I live 20 miles from Ann Arbor.

Yes, no one says Piscataway is part of NYC. But aren't you really talking about what there is to do in an area, which is driven by population density?

If you are talking about what students can get to as far as things to do without a car, that is a smaller area than Lincoln. If it is with a car, that can encompass a lot of possibilities in reasonable driving distance in the NY Metro.

If the population density of the accessible region isn't what this comparison should be about, I am at a loss as to what value or meaning it has.

Lincoln MSA

342,117 Population [2021] – Estimate

3,649 km² Area

93.75/km² Population Density [2021]

Ann Arbor MSA

369,390 Population [2021] – Estimate


1,829 km² Area

202.0/km² Population Density [2021]

(BTW MLive is not Michigan's flagship newspaper. If there is one, it would be either the Free Press or the News)
Sort of ridiculous that we're getting this nuanced, so I'll attempt to provide something that shows the spirit of what @HerbRedman is saying.

There's the part where people think they'll being landing next to a sugar beet field in a town the size of Scottsbluff. Apologies @Elizabeth Reed

Instead they realize that Lincoln is a college town that has a larger population base than probably 80% of major university towns. When you expect Siberia and you get Lincoln, it puts us at an advantage because their expectations are greatly exceeded. What's probably eye-opening to most is that there's 1.5 million people within a 50 mile radius of Lincoln. That will give the area a different feel that young people are attracted to.

Plus it's a clean town with new and growing developments. Unlike South Bend, IN. - which to me is sort of a shit hole. So yes, Ann Arbor is next to Detroit - which is a more run-down and older area.
 
Sort of ridiculous that we're getting this nuanced, so I'll attempt to provide something that shows the spirit of what @HerbRedman is saying.

There's the part where people think they'll being landing next to a sugar beet field in a town the size of Scottsbluff. Apologies @Elizabeth Reed

Instead they realize that Lincoln is a college town that has a larger population base than probably 80% of major university towns. When you expect Siberia and you get Lincoln, it puts us at an advantage because their expectations are greatly exceeded. What's probably eye-opening to most is that there's 1.5 million people within a 50 mile radius of Lincoln. That will give the area a different feel that young people are attracted to.

Plus it's a clean town with new and growing developments. Unlike South Bend, IN. - which to me is sort of a shit hole. So yes, Ann Arbor is next to Detroit - which is a more run-down and older area.

I was surprised at how shitting South Bend was when I drove through it a few years back. I guess I was thinking that with Notre Dame being there and the prestige that comes with that, that it would be much, much nicer...
 
I was surprised at how shitting South Bend was when I drove through it a few years back. I guess I was thinking that with Notre Dame being there and the prestige that comes with that, that it would be much, much nicer...
Case in point.
 
Sort of ridiculous that we're getting this nuanced, so I'll attempt to provide something that shows the spirit of what @HerbRedman is saying.

There's the part where people think they'll being landing next to a sugar beet field in a town the size of Scottsbluff. Apologies @Elizabeth Reed

Instead they realize that Lincoln is a college town that has a larger population base than probably 80% of major university towns. When you expect Siberia and you get Lincoln, it puts us at an advantage because their expectations are greatly exceeded. What's probably eye-opening to most is that there's 1.5 million people within a 50 mile radius of Lincoln. That will give the area a different feel that young people are attracted to.

Plus it's a clean town with new and growing developments. Unlike South Bend, IN. - which to me is sort of a shit hole. So yes, Ann Arbor is next to Detroit - which is a more run-down and older area.
Please explain to our Omaha friends what a sugar beet field is..........😀



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I was surprised at how shitting South Bend was when I drove through it a few years back. I guess I was thinking that with Notre Dame being there and the prestige that comes with that, that it would be much, much nicer...
Stayed there one night 15 months ago and also surprised how "not nice" the town actually was. I did find a solid dive bar with karioke the night I was in there.



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Driving back from South Bend to Chicago, I made the mistake of stopping in Gary, Indiana for gas and some food. Gary makes South Bend look like South Beach.
 
Sort of ridiculous that we're getting this nuanced, so I'll attempt to provide something that shows the spirit of what @HerbRedman is saying.

There's the part where people think they'll being landing next to a sugar beet field in a town the size of Scottsbluff. Apologies @Elizabeth Reed

Instead they realize that Lincoln is a college town that has a larger population base than probably 80% of major university towns. When you expect Siberia and you get Lincoln, it puts us at an advantage because their expectations are greatly exceeded. What's probably eye-opening to most is that there's 1.5 million people within a 50 mile radius of Lincoln. That will give the area a different feel that young people are attracted to.

Plus it's a clean town with new and growing developments. Unlike South Bend, IN. - which to me is sort of a shit hole. So yes, Ann Arbor is next to Detroit - which is a more run-down and older area.
Yep. This, exactly. Everyone has gone to a movie they thought was gonna be hot garbage and walked out pleasantly surprised. It's a good feeling. And u actually tend to OVER rate the movie bc you were so pleasantly surprised (which is just fine for us in this scenario).

Not only is this a nice mini-advantage for Nebraska but our opponents' fans actively feed this advantage for us. It's really funny. They hit the twitters w nonstop shitting on Lincoln but what they're too stupid to realize is that this narrative (+ subsequent 180 by the recruit) has been super successful for us for 40+ years.
 
I was surprised at how shitting South Bend was when I drove through it a few years back. I guess I was thinking that with Notre Dame being there and the prestige that comes with that, that it would be much, much nicer...
Not even just South Bend, but there's a lot of P5 schools that are in cities that are pretty drab, boring small towns:

Big Ten
West Lafayette
State College
Cockeye City
Champaign-Urbana
Piscataway

Other P5
Tuscaloosa AL
Oxford MS
Starkville MS (a real shithole)
Auburn AL
Manhattan KS
Eugene OR
Ames IA
Corvallis OR
Morgantown WV
Pullman WA
Lawrence KS
Lubbock TX


These are just a few. But the point is, if a HS recruit is making the rounds his JR yr, Lincoln will actually be among the larger college towns he visits.
 
Does population density correlate with "things to do" directly? I wouldn't be surprised if it does just curious how this is being determined if we're breaking this thing down.
I think what this is really about is campus surroundings - how much stuff is there to do around campus for people under the age of 25. To a lesser extent, it is about what the larger area has to offer as well, but campus surroundings is the most important thing. I think that is somewhat tied, at least indirectly, to how many people live nearby. The thing that is amazing about DONU and Lincoln is that Nebraska 's enrolment is not very large by B1G standards. Normally, the more students, there more there is to do. E.g., Boston is a really fun place to be a college student. But there are 340,000 college students there, over 7% of the Boston population. So, a lot of businesses there cater to college age people.
 
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