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Reality is starting to set in, right?

Tsakoi

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Guys, let's be honest with ourselves. Scott has a pretty extensive history of losing productive players in the off season.

JD Spielman ring a bell? Wandale Robinson anybody? Luke McCaffery was sold to us as the next big thing.

Now Zavier Betts and Casey Rogers. Speaking of Zavier....go back and look at the absolute graveyard that the 2020 class has become. I count 13 of that class that are gone that would be entering their prime playing time years had they still been at NU.

Why does this keep happening? Because the players and the people close to them can see what a disaster Frost has been. The players see the program from the inside and know more about the day in day out than anybody so when a bunch of them decide to leave then what they are seeing everyday must be a shit show. Can anybody disagree with me at this point? Its not a one year thing. Does anybody question the football knowledge of JD Spielman's family? Wandale had people who are very active in the football world and they advised him to leave. Luke McCaffery has years upon years of NFL experience, including a super bowl champion, in his family and they were pretty vocal about getting Luke TF out of Lincoln. Kade Warner was a team captain and bounced and his superbowl champion dad fully supported that move. Once is just a thing, but having multiple people with football blood head for the exits tells the story.

I'm sure Scott will go with the old "Next man up" when addressing the Casey Rogers situation but has that ever been the case? We shouldn't pretend like another productive player leaving isn't going to affect us. At this point the transfer portal is the only thing holding this team together at all, but that isn't a viable solution for a program that wants to be a winner every year. Does anybody believe that we will hit 100% with the transfers? That they will all be great or at least good? I don't.

What about guys leaving that had a chance to play more? Deontre Thomas decided to leave and honestly it looks on the surface like a bad choice because his name isn't mentioned by any NFL people that I have seen but he still didn't want to be here any more. Why? Cam Jurgens looks like a good decision from the NFL angle but did it even really seem like a difficult choice for him? Adrian didn't shed many tears upon his departure. (Disclaimer: I'm glad he left) I'm sure there are more that I'm not remembering right now. Sure, guys leave early for their shot at the NFL from every team but our guys seem to be making that decision despite the substantial risks involved, almost as if they can't wait to leave.

Sure Frost has made some changes to the coaching staff but those moves seemed to have been forced on to him. Could they work out? I don't know, does it look like it's working out so far? The OL in the spring game looked like pre school. The coach Frost brought in was questionable. Would anybody be surprised that the only real substance behind the move was because they thought it gave Nebraska a shot at the coach's nephew? To me that is the level of Scott's brain. I'm serious. Anybody have some evidence to refute that? Can anybody point me to something truly smart that Scott has said? Any wisdom he put forth? A move that seemed ahead of the curve? Up to now they only thing we have gotten are old, recycled platitudes like "We know where this thing is going".
The only truly excellent move Scott has made with his coaching staff is the Mickey hire and that looks more like a Turd move than anything. (Just look at the way Turd ALWAYS mentions Mickey in any interview)

The hope for the new season is starting to fade more and more each week. Top young returning WR leaves. Lackluster spring game. New transfer QB with an injured hand. Top young returning DL leaves. The hits just keep on coming. The reality is starting to set in. We all know what the future has in store for us. Some of us are more than ready to admit it. Some of us still aren't there yet. My guess is that by late October it will be obvious that we will be searching for a new coach and finally ready to put an end to this tragic experience.
 
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I had to break down this behemoth of a post and take breaks in the POTD between each paragraph, but here are a few thoughts.
I mostly agree with you, but am confused why anyone would get very excited about the team and their prospects given recent history and our HC’s inability to put a consistent team together in 4 years.
Teanna Trump has a dynamite ass, and some sweet, yet slightly undersized titties.
Being on the outside, it’s impossible to pinpoint the disconnect there is within the program that hasn’t allowed it to get back on track. But it has seemed for some time (3 years for me) that Frost is a phony.
milli vanilli fraud GIF

Brenna Sparks would be so much hotter if half her videos didn’t have her talking like a pre-pubescent girl. I really hate that I have to mute a lot of her videos.
 
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I had to break down this behemoth of a post and take breaks in the POTD between each paragraph, but here are a few thoughts.
I mostly agree with you, but am confused why anyone would get very excited about the team and their prospects given recent history and our HC’s inability to put a consistent team together in 4 years.
Team a Trump has a dynamite ass, and some sweet, yet slightly undersized titties.
Being on the outside, it’s impossible to pinpoint the disconnect there is within the program that hasn’t allowed it to get back on track. But it has seemed for some time (3 years for me) that Frost is a phony.
milli vanilli fraud GIF

Brenna Sparks would be so much hotter if half her videos didn’t have her talking like a pre-pubescent girl. I really hate that I have to mute a lot of her videos.
Spot on. Frost is a phony and it takes some time to see it but the people with football backgrounds see it fast.......and leave. The evidence is overwhelming at this point.

There are some other things about Frost that aren't conducive to being a successful coach in 2022 but those things could be overcome if he wasn't such a fraud. He's pretending to be smart when he isn't. He's pretending to know what he is doing when he doesn't. You can't blame him, he was offered a lot of money to come in and go for the "fake it till you make it" routine, but man he hasn't come anywhere near to making it.
 
The reality is starting to set in.
It’s been set in for quite some time. Also Frost and staff (more so the old one) are the worst recruiters I’ve ever seen at Nebraska in a landslide. They’ve been atrocious in the 500 mile radius.

Nebraska deserves everything it gets at this point. They might be at the lowest point in program history. It’s self inflicted and being allowed to happen.
 
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After the last 4 and a half years, my opinion is that Frost's head is stuck in the 90s and what Nebraska was philosophically. That's okay in my opinion, but that means you have to established and already be winning games in order use the "next man up" mantra. We know the rumors, people, players hear it, players' parents hear it, and parents want their kids in more stable situations given the lack of results and fan chatter because of those results. But let's be real honest about these transfers and what their worth is.

Spielman: Good, wasn't going to elevate us too much and heart wasn't in it which means he was never going to elevate himself or others.
Kade Warner: Role guy, culture guy, locker room guy. Not going to do anything elite
Betts: If he has a kid, his mind is probably a little preoccupied and Mickey Joseph isn't Matt Lubick or Troy Walters
Casey Rodgers: I'm sure some on here know the truth and just haven't said it yet, so we don't really know the real reason yet. If it scheme related and differences in philosophy with Dawson, then that's not on Frost.
Luke: miss, no explanation, but was never a big loss given what we know replaced him
Wandale: Yeah that one hurts


I think Scott knew what he was getting into with this, but wasn't fully prepared for everything....if that makes sense? Like, understood the magnitude of the job and the task, but wasn't prepared for the Big 10 or how it would affect his offense. Which has showed



Yes, reality has set in for me.
 
Yeah so as you know I’ve said all along fool me four times shame on you, fool me five times shame on me. I will not be tricked again. I’ve been off this train since sometime the middle of last year. Should have been the year before but I gave Scott the benefit of the doubt with Covid.

I originally said 3-9. I upped my prediction to 4-8 when we got Casey Thompson. Sadly I am bringing it back down to 3-9 with the loss of Betts and Rogers.
 
I thought the Cover 3 Podcast talked about it pretty fairly yesterday.

The only good news is...and there's not much good news right now...
Nebraska opens up with Northwestern who outside of the weird covid year has had the worst power 5 offense in football for the past 2 non covid seasons.
Then they have North Dakota and Georgia Southern.

And then after OU they really only play one offense up to Halloween that is any threat to throw the ball except Purdue.

Now with Nebraska basically being down to 6 DL, the depth issue vs a team like Illinois may come into effect. As we know they are going to literally piss pound Nebraska.

The schedule is really favorable for Nebraska to get to a bowl. I know right now it's all doom and gloom because of the Rogers transfer and the face that Nebraska 2 best offensive linemen didn't practice all spring. But the schedule is the easiest it's been in a long time.
 
I thought the Cover 3 Podcast talked about it pretty fairly yesterday.

The only good news is...and there's not much good news right now...
Nebraska opens up with Northwestern who outside of the weird covid year has had the worst power 5 offense in football for the past 2 non covid seasons.
Then they have North Dakota and Georgia Southern.

And then after OU they really only play one offense up to Halloween that is any threat to throw the ball except Purdue.

Now with Nebraska basically being down to 6 DL, the depth issue vs a team like Illinois may come into effect. As we know they are going to literally piss pound Nebraska.

The schedule is really favorable for Nebraska to get to a bowl. I know right now it's all doom and gloom because of the Rogers transfer and the face that Nebraska 2 best offensive linemen didn't practice all spring. But the schedule is the easiest it's been in a long time.
Is that really what we want though? Ok cool the schedule is easier. Doesn't Nebraska have higher expectations?

Nebraska isn't a highly functioning program. The year 5 expectation wasn't to have a easy schedule and because of that, hopefully we do well.

As much of a SF hater as I am, I think they'll get 5-7 wins. And the media (if it's a bowl game) will pump that as big progress. The Dean and Sipple articles will be entertaining. So in year 5, a 6 to 7 win season is labeled a success. Which is also the best season in the SF era. If that's not moving the bar I don't know what is.
 
I thought the Cover 3 Podcast talked about it pretty fairly yesterday.

The only good news is...and there's not much good news right now...
Nebraska opens up with Northwestern who outside of the weird covid year has had the worst power 5 offense in football for the past 2 non covid seasons.
Then they have North Dakota and Georgia Southern.

And then after OU they really only play one offense up to Halloween that is any threat to throw the ball except Purdue.

Now with Nebraska basically being down to 6 DL, the depth issue vs a team like Illinois may come into effect. As we know they are going to literally piss pound Nebraska.

The schedule is really favorable for Nebraska to get to a bowl. I know right now it's all doom and gloom because of the Rogers transfer and the face that Nebraska 2 best offensive linemen didn't practice all spring. But the schedule is the easiest it's been in a long time.


Yeah so do we WANT frost to go 6-6 with a team that would go 3-9 or 4-8 against a normal schedule and be retained?
 
Is that really what we want though? Ok cool the schedule is easier. Doesn't Nebraska have higher expectations?

Nebraska isn't a highly functioning program. The year 5 expectation wasn't to have a easy schedule and because of that, hopefully we do well.

As much of a SF hater as I am, I think they'll get 5-7 wins. And the media (if it's a bowl game) will pump that as big progress. The Dean and Sipple articles will be entertaining. So in year 5, a 6 to 7 win season is labeled a success. Which is also the best season in the SF era. If that's not moving the bar I don't know what is.
Right now, no Nebraska does not have higher expectations. They haven’t been bowl eligible in 5 or 6 years when there’s almost too many bowls anyway. Their realistic expectation for 2022 should be to get to a bowl, get those extra practices for the young guys, recruit better after showing progress (they generally recruit better than most of the west even with shitty teams) and then get to 8 or 9 wins in 2023.

And then in 2024 maybe Nebraska can think about getting curb stomped in a big 10 championship by Ohio State and probably Nebraska legacy Dylan Raiola
 
Is that really what we want though? Ok cool the schedule is easier. Doesn't Nebraska have higher expectations?

Nebraska isn't a highly functioning program. The year 5 expectation wasn't to have a easy schedule and because of that, hopefully we do well.

As much of a SF hater as I am, I think they'll get 5-7 wins. And the media (if it's a bowl game) will pump that as big progress. The Dean and Sipple articles will be entertaining. So in year 5, a 6 to 7 win season is labeled a success. Which is also the best season in the SF era. If that's not moving the bar I don't know what is.
Here is the cycle of Nebraska media:
  • January-February: recruiting hype BS.
  • March-April: Spring game BS.
  • May-August: off-season BS. The team is a "family" now and workouts are the best ever. Shatel thinks this could be the year!
  • September-October: reality sets in.
  • November: Sam McKewon records a video on the field after the Purdue loss like he's a hostage taken by ISIS and is finally willing to admit we're a dumpster fire.
  • December-January: new transfers coming in, new coaches. Everything will be OK next season! OWH writes a declarative front-page opinion piece as to why we need him another year.
  • If/when Frost gets fired: the media will all come out of the woodwork and say that they knew it was a mess.
I'm no longer fooled by it. The "Frost as a CEO" bit is laughable. Frost is like the guy that owned a local hardware store and dominated his local market only to get hired to lead Home Depot.
 
Right now, no Nebraska does not have higher expectations. They haven’t been bowl eligible in 5 or 6 years when there’s almost too many bowls anyway. Their realistic expectation for 2022 should be to get to a bowl, get those extra practices for the young guys, recruit better after showing progress (they generally recruit better than most of the west even with shitty teams) and then get to 8 or 9 wins in 2023.

And then in 2024 maybe Nebraska can think about getting curb stomped in a big 10 championship by Ohio State and probably Nebraska legacy Dylan Raiola
That's not a ride I'd be willing to take and I don't understand why anyone else is willing to. You have proof. SF is one of the worst coaches in the B1G. It's not opinion, statistics prove that. You choose to keep riding the rollercoster with Frost yore gonna get what you ask for.

Speaking of Dylan Raiola, think about that. His dad loves it here, had a great career. His son should be committed here. Yet, even though his dad loves the program he knows he CAN'T send his son here....even though he probably wanted too. You think that'd be different if Nebraska was a top 15 program? Top 25? That was the original expectation for Frost. Or so we thought, obviously that isn't true.
 
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