Please, God - NO (Bronco Mendenhall)

[Alcaus]

He's a discount Brian Harsin. He put up 8-5 seasons playing against mid-level G5 opponents. I don't know how you stunt for that body of work.

I wouldn't call it "stunting" lol

It's more indifference as these guys seem pretty interchangeable. Are we supposed to look at Toledo and Buffalo differently than BYU? Do Leipold and Klieman get extra credit because they were champion FCS/D3 HCs?

How are you breaking it down?

 

[Pipe Line]

Would probably take my N clothing to Goodwill

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

I wouldn't call it "stunting" lol

It's more indifference as these guys seem pretty interchangeable. Are we supposed to look at Toledo and Buffalo differently than BYU? Do Leipold and Klieman get extra credit because they were champion FCS/D3 HCs?

How are you breaking it down?

Leipold is the only one aside from Mendenhall that has a losing record as a P5 coach, and he took over the worst P5 team in the country and only has two seasons as a body of work. Justify why a below .500 P5 coach has a better resume than guys who aren't below .500 P5 coaches.

 

[Driveway Jordan]

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

 

[Alcaus]

Leipold is the only one aside from Mendenhall that has a losing record as a P5 coach, and he took over the worst P5 team in the country and only has two seasons as a body of work. Justify why a below .500 P5 coach has a better resume than guys who aren't below .500 P5 coaches.

Because I'm looking at the entire body of work, not just P5 experience. That's what I meant when I said resume.

If we're looking at P5 only then you'd probably land on Doeren or Matt Campbell. I'd prefer Klieman out of that bunch but he has limited P5 experience/results as well.

 

[ChocaEgg]

I'd rather have Campbell or Mickey than Bronco. Disgusting that we're scraping the bottom of the barrel for a HC.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Because I'm looking at the entire body of work, not just P5 experience. That's what I meant when I said resume.

If we're looking at P5 only then you'd probably land on Doeren or Matt Campbell. I'd prefer Klieman out of that bunch but he has limited P5 experience/results as well.

Again, not really sure how 8-5 seasons in the Mountain West trump success at the P5 level. He wasn't really that impressive at a lower level of football, and BYU has more resources than most G5 programs.

 

[Alcaus]

Again, not really sure how 8-5 seasons in the Mountain West trump success at the P5 level. He wasn't really that impressive at a lower level of football, and BYU has more resources than most G5 programs.

He never went 8-5 in the Mountain West. He went 6-6, 11-2, 11-2, 10-3, 11-2, and 7-6 in the MWC. Then he was 10-3, 8-5, 8-5, 8-5, 9-4. Averaged 9-wins a year at BYU.

His Virginia tenure was below average compared to Virginia's historical winning pct.

Edit: Removed P5 reference

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

He never went 8-5 in the Mountain West. He went 6-6, 11-2, 11-2, 10-3, 11-2, and 7-6 in the MWC. Then he was 10-3, 8-5, 8-5, 8-5, 9-4 in P5. Averaged 9-wins a year at BYU.

His Virginia tenure was below average compared to Virginia's historical winning pct.

The back half of that catalogue at BYU isn't P5 bro, lol. They were an independent w/ an impressive MWC heavy slate like these:

 

[Alcaus]

The back half of that catalogue at BYU isn't P5 bro, lol. They were an independent w/ an impressive MWC heavy slate like these:

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Good catch. I thought they went B12 but that's next year.

 

[11husker23]

Sounds like Dean is being used to negotiate a fat raise

He is a world class putz. Agents everywhere are using him to start rumors and extract money for their clients.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Good catch. I thought they went B12 but that's next year.

BYU would be middle of the pack in stadium capacity in the Big 10. They have way better facilities+resources than any other G5 team had during his tenure there. They were the OU/Texas of the MWC.

 

[Alcaus]

BYU would be middle of the pack in stadium capacity in the Big 10. They have way better facilities+resources than any other G5 team had during his tenure there. They were the OU/Texas of the MWC.

So how would you rank those guys by total resume?

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

He is a world class putz. Agents everywhere are using him to start rumors and extract money for their clients.

I laughed when @...TrueColors... called him out in regards to Stoops... Later that day Stoops was announced to have a fat raise.

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

So how would you rank those guys by total resume?

I would have Mendenhall last, but if someone wanted to put him equal with Leipold that’s fine.

 

[Alcaus]

I would have Mendenhall last, but if someone wanted to put him equal with Leipold that’s fine.

Something like:

Doeren
Campbell/Klieman
Leipold/Mendenhall

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Something like:

Doeren
Campbell/Klieman
Leipold/Mendenhall

I give more credit to lower level success when it's validated when a dude moves up. I probably like Campbell more than most people on here. I don't know where to rank Leipold b/c of small sample size, but think people around here underrate how impressive his work at KU was this year given what that job is.

1. Klieman
2. Doeren
3. Campbell
4. Leipold
5. Mendenhall