Over or under reaction

[Cheveyo]

Im aware the score. I acknowledged this game sucked. But you need to step back and look at things if you think it's time to burn the thing down again.

there’s nothing to burn down. If something isn’t working you cut it right away. It’s how cfb is now. Don’t you see the direct comparison we had on display here today? Who cares if you’re building a “program” if the program gets absolutely dog walked in year 2 by a first year coach coming from the sun belt?

 

[Seaofred92]

Sure that’d be great but I don’t think that’s going to be reality. This likely isn’t a one game issue, it’s ongoing.

What isn’t going to be reality? We’re at 5 wins. I said we’re going to win between 6-8. You think we’re not winning a single game the rest of the year? Have you watched any college football outside of Nebraska? It’s absolute chaos every week.

 

[Cash68847]

What isn’t going to be reality? We’re at 5 wins. I said we’re going to win between 6-8. You think we’re not winning a single game the rest of the year? Have you watched any college football outside of Nebraska? It’s absolute chaos every week.

I think we get to 6-7 wins, but we haven’t really improved outside a qb who isn’t a complete turnover machine. Rhules needs to change some assistants or this will never work.

 

[kyle23]

 

[Goskers07]

I’ll be here as we lose out just like last year. We are bad football team that is very poorly coached. I’m sorry that you’re too dumb to see that.

Just like we were gonna lose to Purdoodoo and Buttgers, amirite? 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Goskers07]

there’s nothing to burn down. If something isn’t working you cut it right away. It’s how cfb is now. Don’t you see the direct comparison we had on display here today? Who cares if you’re building a “program” if the program gets absolutely dog walked in year 2 by a first year coach coming from the sun belt?

I could take so many of the posts that I've seen trying to make the point that you can change things around year one through the portal, change Cignetti to Sanders, and find those exact quotes from last season. Its not a sure fix. It worked for Cignetti so far. There's no proof it'll work beyond that though.

 

[Seaofred92]

I think we get to 6-7 wins, but we haven’t really improved outside a qb who isn’t a complete turnover machine. Rhules needs to change some assistants or this will never work.

Saying we haven’t improved is just being stubborn and reactionary IMO. I mean we led the B1G in sacks and TFLs coming into this week. We have two true Freshmen that are going to wind up being Freshmen All Americans. The sky isn’t exactly falling on the entirety of the program here despite (badly) losing to what is going to wind up being a playoff team on the road.


Go ahead and qualify the above however you want to in order to make it try to fit a narrative that isn’t true but the team is playing hard and there are things we are clearly better at than previous years. But at the same time, just because we’re better at something than we used to be doesn’t mean it’s in its final state or is good enough in the long term, and I trust that in the offseason Rhule will continue to tinker and twist things in an effort to consistently get better (which is what he espouses daily and has for his whole career).

Rhule has been taking a long term build approach the entire time since he’s been here and has been explicitly public about that. 80% of the roster is underclassmen and the majority of the people that play are people that have contributed to 3, 4, and 5 win seasons the last few years. I will say it again- our win total pre-season was 7.5 and we are on pace to finish right around that. If you think making a bowl for the first time in 8 years and playing to our win total isn’t progress then I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[Seaofred92]

I could take some many of the posts that I've seen trying to make the point that you can change things around year one through the portal, change Cignetti to Sanders, and find those exact quotes from last season. Its not a sure fix. It worked for Cignetti so far. There's no proof it'll work beyond that though.

Thank you. Cignetti and Rhule are taking two different approaches at building a program. Rhule has often mentioned because he came from the NFL he didn’t have a bunch of players to “bring with him” like other coaches do these days when taking a new job. And I would have to imagine that the lack of players to “bring with him” played a large part in the decision to keep the roster together and try to build through redshirts and high school guys.

You can win games with either approach, but this is the approach we’re taking and the one we essentially had to by default (and also what Rhule has done in other places). The team is going to make a bowl game for the first time in 8 years and people are freaking out because Indianus brought 15 kids from a top 25 team last year and a 6th year QB who shouldn’t even be eligible in college anymore and looks great. I will withhold major judgements on what the future looks like until the offseason when we see what kind of philosophical changes (if any) Rhule wants to make and what staff/personnel movements happen as a result of that. But when we are redshirting a bunch of guys that could help us win in favor of a longer term approach and build and the staff has been incredibly transparent about it, I can’t get worked up over the future of the program because of results from one individual game

 

[Chi7397]

Nebraska fans win a couple games and the suddenly take back on the air of we should never lose again.

As someone noted, Nebraska will win 6-8 games this year which is in line with expectations. Indianus is ranked in the teens and is actually good this year - so is Illinois - losses are still going to happen. The big difference is so far we are winning the games we clearly should.

People need to chill out, this was never going to be an overnight rebuild - wait until the end of the year and then evaluate.

 

[Samkellers_69]

 

[Gman1228]

Nebraska fans win a couple games and the suddenly take back on the air of we should never lose again.

As someone noted, Nebraska will win 6-8 games this year which is in line with expectations. Indianus is ranked in the teens and is actually good this year - so is Illinois - losses are still going to happen. The big difference is so far we are winning the games we clearly should.

People need to chill out, this was never going to be an overnight rebuild - wait until the end of the year and then evaluate.

We just lost by 49 points to Indianus and in no way shape or form competed in any area. If you don’t think yesterday’s loss was an indication of what is to come then I don’t know what to tell you.

 

[Cash68847]

Saying we haven’t improved is just being stubborn and reactionary IMO. I mean we led the B1G in sacks and TFLs coming into this week. We have two true Freshmen that are going to wind up being Freshmen All Americans. The sky isn’t exactly falling on the entirety of the program here despite (badly) losing to what is going to wind up being a playoff team on the road.


Go ahead and qualify the above however you want to in order to make it try to fit a narrative that isn’t true but the team is playing hard and there are things we are clearly better at than previous years. But at the same time, just because we’re better at something than we used to be doesn’t mean it’s in its final state or is good enough in the long term, and I trust that in the offseason Rhule will continue to tinker and twist things in an effort to consistently get better (which is what he espouses daily and has for his whole career).

Rhule has been taking a long term build approach the entire time since he’s been here and has been explicitly public about that. 80% of the roster is underclassmen and the majority of the people that play are people that have contributed to 3, 4, and 5 win seasons the last few years. I will say it again- our win total pre-season was 7.5 and we are on pace to finish right around that. If you think making a bowl for the first time in 8 years and playing to our win total isn’t progress then I don’t know what to tell you.

I would feel much better about your stance if our lines weren’t made up of a lot of upperclassmen. I’m a little worried about our o line next year and our interior d line. I know I brought on some hyperbole, but our defense has been abused when playing an offense with a pulse outside of CU, and our offense for whatever reason outside getting better at turnovers can’t score points. I was hoping to see more improvement than this. Seriously where would you rate Rhule’s staff in the BIG right now?

 

[Chi7397]

We just lost by 49 points to Indianus and in no way shape or form competed in any area. If you don’t think yesterday’s loss was an indication of what is to come then I don’t know what to tell you.

Maybe it is, maybe it’s not - I’m not going to decide that when the team is 5-2 in year 2 with at least 5 more games to go.

You decided before they played a down so we obviously are taking different approaches here.

 

[Seaofred92]

I would feel much better about your stance if our lines weren’t made up of a lot of upperclassmen. I’m a little worried about our o line next year and our interior d line. I know I brought on some hyperbole, but our defense has been abused when playing an offense with a pulse outside of CU, and our offense for whatever reason outside getting better at turnovers can’t score points. I was hoping to see more improvement than this. Seriously where would you rate Rhule’s staff in the BIG right now?

I do not know enough about all 18 coaching staffs in the Big Ten to put together an accurate ranking. I do think Satterfield is replaceable (definitely is overpaid at a minimum), and I think its fair to say White is in the top third of defensive coordinators in the league currently going off results

I don’t disagree that we are going to have to replace a lot on the lines but what people are forgetting in this whole thing is we don’t even know who is going to be on either line for us next season with the way college football works currently. I’ll take OL as an example: Gottula is the LT. Lutovsky and Evans both will return at LG/RG. Sledge will more than likely be the center and you’re talking about having to essentially just replace RT at that point. Do we wind up dipping into the portal again and taking 1-2 starting caliber guys including a LT and/or C? If so, how does that change our perception of the OL going into next year?

On defense, I’m just tossing a name out there but what if Williams Nwaneri enters the portal and comes to Nebraska? How does that change how we feel about the DL going into next year? Hell our current second best CB wasn’t even enrolled at Nebraska until July of this year - trying to pretend like we know the full extent of next year’s roster at this point in time is just foolish.

I trust that Rhule sees what everyone sees (because he essentially said as much in his press conference yesterday) and will plan to address and update it accordingly.

What I’m not gonna do (like a lot of people on this board currently are) is get my panties in a wad because we lost a game to a good team that’s doing things completely differently than us just because I’m mad at the result of one football game. Ignoring all the positives while saying shit like “WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR THIS!” Is just dumb.

I am begging people on this board to watch games outside of Nebraska- USC is 3-4, Michigan just won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP last year and a might miss a bowl game this year. I mean think about that. Parity is as alive as it has ever been in college football, we have tied our most wins in a season in the last 8 years through 6 football games this year. I’m not going to pretend the sky is falling when that is the case.

 

[Gman1228]

Maybe it is, maybe it’s not - I’m not going to decide that when the team is 5-2 in year 2 with at least 5 more games to go.

You decided before they played a down so we obviously are taking different approaches here.

I didn’t decide shit before we played a down. I have eyes and can see that we are a very poor team who is vastly underachieving across the board.

 

[Papa...Football]

I personally think it’s delusional for anyone to make the definitive statement that we WILL win 6-8 games.

But you do you

 

[Seaofred92]

I personally think it’s delusional for anyone to make the definitive statement that we WILL win 6-8 games.

But you do you

Nebraska’s % chance to win remaining games per ESPN Analytics

@ Ohio State 3.7%
UCLAbia 63.3%
@ USC 15.1%
Wisconsin 36.9%
@ Cockeye 27.0%

Probability of winning at least one remaining game based upon the above percentages: 86.1%

Probability of winning none of the remaining games based upon the above percentages: 13.9%

Would actually be much more delusional to state we will win anything other than 6-8 games based upon the math. But I’m guessing you won’t like hearing that so will plug your ears and pretend otherwise.

Edit- plugged the above into ChatGPT and got even more accurate and detailed probabilities:




Better chance of winning 4 of the 5 remaining games than 0.

But you do you

 

[Scott Hall]

leaving coaches and scheme out of it, I saw a team straight up quit and go through the motions while the game was still winnable. The lack of effort from a few supposed team leaders is by far the most concerning thing to me. Will coaches recognize it and bench those cancers or will they fold for the year?

 

[HuskerDocCo]

This loss was brutal. From Indianus’s first drive I felt it was already over. All 3 phases were awful. I think our players are over confident for God knows what reason—all talk and absolutely no action. Coaching is more than concerning. We have no identity. Rhule said he “didn’t see this coming.”

This just has the feeling of an end of season loss. How do the players respond to that? Have the coaches even shown they can adjust? Same crap today as the past few weeks but against a much better opponent that absolutely trashed us for it. There is nothing from that loss to say, “hey we did this well” and nothing to build any confidence on. I’m seeing other teams improve and our team is regressing.

We’ve been garbage since 1st half of Colorado. I figured Purdoodoo and Buttgers were just the classic “ugly big 10 wins” and the type of games we have been losing for so many years, but I still didn’t trust that I was seeing improvement.

I have a hard time seeing another win and think we will fold up. Over or under reaction?

Petey, i dont know if this is the rite thread but im gonna go find a barn party and have some rough sects in it after wards thanks gbr

 

[HuskerDocCo]

leaving coaches and scheme out of it, I saw a team straight up quit and go through the motions while the game was still winnable. The lack of effort from a few supposed team leaders is by far the most concerning thing to me. Will coaches recognize it and bench those cancers or will they fold for the year?

only thing im foldin scotty is my billfold after I pull out a rubber for the barn party sects