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November recruiting thread

Does anyone find it at all interesting that Mike Schaefer, whose sole job it is to cover Husker recruiting for 247, has not logged a crystal ball since July 1st? We’ve had a number of commits since then and even BC and Bruntz have logged CB’s. I may be out of the loop on this, but is 247 pulling back on their recruiting coverage?
 
Husker1 said:
Does anyone find it at all interesting that Mike Schaefer, whose sole job it is to cover Husker recruiting for 247, has not logged a crystal ball since July 1st? We’ve had a number of commits since then and even BC and Bruntz have logged CB’s. I may be out of the loop on this, but is 247 pulling back on their recruiting coverage?
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He’s probably busy stuffing his fat face
 
Husker1 said:
Does anyone find it at all interesting that Mike Schaefer, whose sole job it is to cover Husker recruiting for 247, has not logged a crystal ball since July 1st? We’ve had a number of commits since then and even BC and Bruntz have logged CB’s. I may be out of the loop on this, but is 247 pulling back on their recruiting coverage?
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Schaefer definitely is
 
Baron Winnebago said:
To be clear, I like EJ and think he will get the running back stuff figured out. Just like feeding the meltdowns
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I like Barthel too & I think he'll develop into a very good RB coach. His issue right now is he's hitting the south hard but he has no natural ties there.

He is targeting HS RBs in places like TX, FL, SC, etc...and Barthel is from the northeast. Take the Kewan Lacy recruitment as an example: Garrett McGuire was crucial to getting that commitment (bc he speaks fluent Dallas Metroplex-ese). I don't think Barthel could have gotten that far with Lacy on his own, just due to not knowing the TX lay of the land like McGuire does.

So that's the issue with Barthel right now. All these RBs are from the sun belt and he's not. He can build up ties to these places it will just take time. When you're a new staff, the natural ties mean everything - look at Donnie Raiola: closed on Ben Scott (Honolulu), closed on Preston Taumua (Honolulu area), making progress w several Poly OL recruits in UT/NV/CA. He's speaks the language so to speak and the recruits respond to that.

Barthel just doesn't have a natural 'in' right now w the places he's being asked to recruit. But he does have playing time to offer though and that can go a long way.
 
HerbRedman said:
I like Barthel too & I think he'll develop into a very good RB coach. His issue right now is he's hitting the south hard but he has no natural ties there.

He is targeting HS RBs in places like TX, FL, SC, etc...and Barthel is from the northeast. Take the Kewan Lacy recruitment as an example: Garrett McGuire was crucial to getting that commitment (bc he speaks fluent Dallas Metroplex-ese). I don't think Barthel could have gotten that far with Lacy on his own, just due to not knowing the TX lay of the land like McGuire does.

So that's the issue with Barthel right now. All these RBs are from the sun belt and he's not. He can build up ties to three places it will just take time. When you're a new staff, the natural ties mean everything - look at Donnie Raiola: closed on Ben Scott (Honolulu), closed on Preston Taumua (Honolulu area), making progress w several Poly OL recruits in UT/NV/CA.

Barthel just doesn't have a natural 'in' right now w the places he's being asked to recruit. But he does have playing time to offer though and that can go a long way.
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I don't read the Lacy de-commit as a relationship issue.

Even early on he was hoping for a bigger-time offer (Ole Miss)

If you now consider he doesn't even mention us anymore after getting his new suitors, it is pretty clear we were a placeholder. And, looking at his upcoming OVs (Hometown SMU, Alabama, Ole Miss and Florida) he likely never really wanted to go north. He said Bama was his dream school.

You could be right on his current search for a Lacy replacement. The bigger problem on the current search is that the vast majority of the top 100 RBs are already committed and the ones that aren't often have issues, like grades. We made a tactical decision to only take one RB in order to secure Lacy's commitment, and it didn't work out. The guy we turned away committed to UCLAbia in early August and is the 3rd highest rated guy in their class.

We are left trying to find overlooked guys/late bloomers.

The 2025 class will shed more light on your point. Right now, we have Conor Booth committed, and at most could take one more guy.
 
Carm said:
I don't read the Lacy de-commit as a relationship issue.
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I don't either. And I didn't say that.

RE: the Lacy commitment, my point was that I don't think Barthel could have gotten that far on his own without McGuire helping. Barthel does not know the TX lay of the land. We did initially beat out Ole Miss for the Lacy recruit. McGuire was a huge part of getting that commitment.

That's not a knock on Barthel - he's just not a TX guy. I don't see him waltzing into the Metroplex and stealing a Dallas recruit from an SEC school. He needed McGuire's help to close the deal. Again, not a knock.

All of this is moot anyway bc Lacy decommitted. I was using that as an example of how difficult it is to win in these ultra competitive battlegrounds (like the Metroplex) when you're not an expert in the area. McGuire is, Barthel is not - which is why they teamed up on that one.

Barthel can develop these 'in's in different recruiting areas, it just takes time. Hell, Chip Kelly became the master of FL/Miami recruiting and he had no ties there (he's from New Hampshire). He just spent an ass load of time there.
 
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