Knowing what you know now…

[vailhusker]

My question to the Billy C crowd, was he a great recruiter or was that all John Blake. I honestly don’t remember

Ok bring zombie John Blake back too as recruiting coordinator old SEC style.

 

[SantaBarbaraSker]

Frank Solich…



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[Kinish]

Billy C and it ain't close

Amen brother

 

[greybeardedchild]

How in the heck did a National Title winning Husker QB and former head coach of a nattie winning G5 team not even make the poll?!

 

[BusterScruggs]

Never forget, Mike Riley had us in the top 10 for a couple weeks in ‘16 even though the record and ranking was smoke and mirrors with a bunch of relatively close wins against bad teams. Sounds kind of familiar actually.

Anyway, as someone who regrets wanting Pelini gone at the time my heart would like a do-over, but my head says Billy C.

 

[Cornicator]

So was Carl Pelini. Dipshit Cosgrove though had NFL players everywhere and just plain sucked ass.

Cosgrove was running a scheme built to stop the Big Ten, circa 1987. Man was clueless vs.a Spread offense.

 

[Cornicator]

Never forget, Mike Riley had us in the top 10 for a couple weeks in ‘16 even though the record and ranking was smoke and mirrors with a bunch of relatively close wins against bad teams. Sounds kind of familiar actually.

Anyway, as someone who regrets wanting Pelini gone at the time my heart would like a do-over, but my head says Billy C.

Its not really familiar. Nebraska has still played a much tougher schedule this season.

In all seriousness, Nebraska never had a schedule that easy in their 1st 7 games of the season, prior to 2016 or after.

Hell, Scott Frost probably wins at least 6 of those 7 games... lol

And as bad as Michigan State, Maryland, and UCLA have been this season, they are all still much better than Illinois and Purdue were in 2016. The Illini were in Lovie's first season and didn't beat a single Power 5 team. Purdue literally fired Darrel Hazel the week of the Nebraska game.

 

[Quint]

At minimum bring Billy C to coach the OL.

That I can get behind.

 

[Quint]

I think something worth noting for all of these coaches is that it’s gotten harder for each subsequent coach. Solich and Callahan weren’t that far removed from an Alabama-like run.

The Nebraska job that Rhule walked into is absolutely a different job than even the Nebraska Pelini left, and he didn’t exactly leave the place with a full tank.

 

[V-Doub]

Frank Solich…



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He may not have been the best choice after TO’s retirement. But he’s the only one to have any success as a HC after Nebraska.

All those other guys further proved they were terrible HCs with their piss poor careers post NU. Billy C was at least smart enough to know what he was good at and what he wasn’t. But the point remains the same, if any of those guys were at least decent HCs they would’ve had at least minimal success somewhere else, none did. All bums in my book.

 

[COYS]

I can’t imagine Bo Pelini building a program in the NIL era. He would have an attitude in which he would refuse to pay players significantly and the roster would just be an absolute mess.

Would have to go with Billy C. He would have a top notch recruiting and NIL staff and I think would excel in finding transfer portal guys. He was an underrated offensive coach while he was here as well.

 

[LoudHogRider]

Would have to go with Billy C. He would have a top notch recruiting and NIL staff and I think would excel in finding transfer portal guys. He was an underrated offensive coach while he was here as well.

I have memories of those offenses moving in fits and starts - nothing consistent. IIRC, we'd have a series of 3-and-outs just when we didn't need them at critical moments in games. There'd be quick scoring strikes, but I simply don't remember an offense that consistently moved the ball throughout the course of a game or season.

But those are just memories w/o research to look at the actual statistical performance of his offenses across his tenure.

 

[SlumpBuster]

Billy C
Rhule


The rest are gross.

I know, spittin' Bo won 9 games blah blah blah. He won against a much less competitive league AND I loathe having a coach that we go into a game knowing any decent team is going to score 50+ points. It's crazy to me that he had one of the best defenses ever here then subsequently something like 8 out of the 10 worst defensive performances in school history by the time he left.

I think Bo lovers block out how atrocious of a defensive coach he was. He was worse than Cosgrove by the time he left.

I've wondered was it Carl who was defensive genius or Callahan's recruits? Bit of both?

 

[SlumpBuster]

Give me Bo (fo sho)
All other coaches on the list either imploded spectacularly or are currently in the process of imploding spectacularly

Bo imploded spectacularly too, just after he left Nebraska

 

[Mavsker]

Bo imploded spectacularly too, just after he left Nebraska

 

[SlumpBuster]

I can definitely go for that. Otherwise Billy C’s recruiting was fueled on his recent appearance in the super bowl and Nebraska’s winning reputation. Niether of those things carry weight anymore.

I don't agree. Recruiters recruit. And he still put together the best staff of recruiters we've ever had.

Ask anyone involved with recruiting at Nebraska, they tried to duplicate his methods for years.

 

[doublewing]

The revisionist history around Bill C is strong.

I'm still Team Rhule. Taking the rest of those dudes as position group coaches.

The Callahan revisionism is the dumbest thing I read on Nebraska message boards.

-He was such a great HC that no team has interviewed him to be a HC since then.
-He was such a great HC that he went 5-7 in year 4.
-He was such a great HC that when he was fired, no one (fans, players, media, message boards, etc) was in his corner. It was unanimous.

You can be a good recruiter and be a terrible HC. Callahan proved that. He'd be a great OL coach but there is good reason why he was never given the keys to a program again.

 

[SlumpBuster]

The Callahan revisionism is the dumbest thing I read on Nebraska message boards.

-He was such a great HC that no team has interviewed him to be a HC since then.
-He was such a great HC that he went 5-7 in year 4.
-He was such a great HC that when he was fired, no one (fans, players, media, message boards, etc) was in his corner. It was unanimous.

You can be a good recruiter and be a terrible HC. Callahan proved that. He'd be a great OL coach but there is good reason why he was never given the keys to a program again.

Some of that was him not seeking anymore HC positions.

He realized he just preferred to go to the NFL and be a line coach and still make plenty of money.

Btw you could do the EXACT same thing for Bo. Nobody wanted him after Nebraska.

You could make an argument that the most "sought after" ex Nebraska coach was Mike Riley

 

[KidsSeeGhosts]

Another NU coach jerk sesh. Time is a flat circle

 

[doublewing]

Some of that was him not seeking anymore HC positions.

He realized he just preferred to go to the NFL and be a line coach and still make plenty of money.

Btw you could do the EXACT same thing for Bo. Nobody wanted him after Nebraska.

You could make an argument that the most "sought after" ex Nebraska coach was Mike Riley

I'm not defending Riley or Bo. I'm dispelling the BC fantasies.