July 🌭 Recruiting Thread

[Carm]

At some point we’re going to need to figure out a more aggressive plan. Texas Tech is finding extra NIL money through taking away from women’s softball. We keep losing and the thought is that the most desperate set the market however aren’t we seriously in need of a ton of blue chips to try to half way catch our “peers”?

The worst case is a roster of overpaid players you can’t add what you need. You pick and choose where to be aggressive based on your needs. If they feel compelled to be the high bidder for everyone we recruit we will end up under talented with no money. I feel like we probably are doing the right thing if neither Texas nor us will outbid UNC.

 

[Carm]

We have a billionaire (family) committed to and running our NIL as well. It’s hard to say that’s the issue.

NIL collectives can’t pay players any longer without it being an allocation of revenue share.

 

[Carm]

Well, we will find out quickly whether the NIL clearinghouse works as intended or not. They’ve made it clear that NIL has to have a business purpose and needs to be in line with market value for the services, but Tech is still using it as pay to play.

If Tech is controlling NiL payments it is revenue sharing.

 

[turek420845]

If Rhule can develope diamonds in the rough, then we are able to pay for the ones we want. I trust this staff when they decide or not decide to drop bags on recruits. I believe this staff recognizes talent that others can't.

 

[Flabio]

That’s just not true. Tech just threw another 7 figure deal at the top softball player in the country for her to return. They have money all over the place because they have a billionaire running and committed to their NIL collective.

Nebraska just doesn’t have the depth or top end boosters some of these other programs have.

With the new ruling isn’t there a cap and some uniformity or schools can just yolo and out big everyone regardless of rev share etc? I keep hearing Rhule etc say we are in such great shape compared to most other programs then we keep getting out bid vs doing the out bidding.

 

[Carm]

If Rhule can develope diamonds in the rough, then we are able to pay for the ones we want. I trust this staff when they decide or not decide to drop bags on recruits. I believe this staff recognizes talent that others can't.

I know this staff really really wants Sone. But I am sure there is a limit to what they’ll pay for Sone even if there were additional funds left over and above that limit.

 

[Flabio]

If Rhule can develope diamonds in the rough, then we are able to pay for the ones we want. I trust this staff when they decide or not decide to drop bags on recruits. I believe this staff recognizes talent that others can't.

We will not consistently compete with our peer programs without bringing in a higher percentage of blue chip players. There is no way of developing around it.

 

[Sous Chef]

At some point we’re going to need to figure out a more aggressive plan. Texas Tech is finding extra NIL money through taking away from women’s softball. We keep losing and the thought is that the most desperate set the market however aren’t we seriously in need of a ton of blue chips to try to half way catch our “peers”?

I'm actually curious to see if Texass Tech can make the Texass aTm model actually work though. I'm in a total wait and see with them before I get ready to jump off the cliff.

 

[nja13]

So I assume when they say a "$5.1 million deal" they mean revenue sharing.
That's $1.7 million a year. They are more than 8% of the rev-share cap to a single high school lineman. Interesting strategy.

So some clarity on this:



They actually promised him 2.3 million (over three years), but told him if the rev-share cap goes way up in the next couple of years, they could increase it to 5.1.

And then the agent bragged about it being a 5.1 million deal. 🙄

 

[Flabio]

So some clarity on this:



They actually promised him 2.3 million (over three years), but told him if the rev-share cap goes way up in the next couple of years, they could increase it to 5.1.

And then the agent bragged about it being a 5.1 million deal. 🙄

“Or if there is minimal adherence to regulation of the cap..." Total mess 😂 Wtf is this bs.

 

[Carm]

 

[HCFord1]

If Tech is controlling NiL payments it is revenue sharing.

College Sports Commission has turned to the most influential alumni base in American sports, the Haverford College baseball program, in selecting John Bramlette to lead operations and NIL enforcement.

College Sports Commission Taps Another MLB Executive

Washington Nationals chief of staff John Bramlette is the second publicly announced hire of college sports' new NIL enforcement entity.

www.sportico.com

 

[Kinish]

Did they though? I thought recruiting became very suspect immediately. I remember right away Solich started taking reaches from instate. Maybe to be fair a lot of the development of players started sliding downhill too so hard to say. I know 1998 had Keyou Craver and DeJuan Groce who were super stars but after them if you look at the careers and production of that class its pretty yikes. Randy Stella could have been great but...you know..issues.

1999 Had Fonoti and Garrison. The rest was very average to below average. I don't count Jamal Lord but you might. This is that class that had Patrick Kabongo and Dan Waldrop 🤢

Hmm. Yeah definitely wrong... I mostly remember the class with Bullocks, Stuntz and Seppo. That would have been 2001 and was considered in the 5-10 rank.

2000 was just outside the top 10 per OWH, 1999 was not great

 

[vailhusker]

 

[FreightPimpDawg]

I'm hoping we had to drop out of the bidding because of the deal we are finalizing with Sone.

I know this staff really really wants Sone. But I am sure there is a limit to what they’ll pay for Sone even if there were additional funds left over and above that limit.

Deep in my bones I know N is winning this one. It just makes too much sense. The deal will need to be closed on the field. The timing is right to make it happen.

 

[FreightPimpDawg]

Alabama might be in their Solich years but they're not recruiting like it.

Who’s blocking and stopping the run in that group? Looks like a PAC12 team to me.

 

[Mavsker]

If Rhule can develope diamonds in the rough, then we are able to pay for the ones we want.

Yeah but as soon as they develop into useful players, then they can command more money, so doesn't really solve the problem
And worse, if you don't pay them market rate and they transfer to a school that will, you basically just used a year plus of DONU resources to develop a player for Florida St/wherever

 

[nja13]

Yeah but as soon as they develop into useful players, then they can command more money, so doesn't really solve the problem
And worse, if you don't pay them market rate and they transfer to a school that will, you basically just used a year plus of DONU resources to develop a player for Florida St/wherever

... or we pay them what they're worth and they stay. That's the plan. It's not that we won't pay players top dollar. It's that we're not going to pay top dollar for very many unproven high school players. The money we save by doing that then goes to retaining players who have proven themselves.

 

[Mavsker]

... or we pay them what they're worth and they stay. That's the plan. It's not that we won't pay players top dollar. It's that we're not going to pay top dollar for very many unproven high school players. The money we save by doing that then goes to retaining players who have proven themselves.

If that's the plan we're not very good at it considering all the players we've developed who have left for more money

 

[turek420845]

If that's the plan we're not very good at it considering all the players we've developed who have left for more money

Win games.