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Juiciest husker scandals

Can't say I knew of any "scandals", but certainly some minor juicy nugs.

My freshman year, Tyrone Hughes came into team meetings at fall camp (the entire team met in one large amphitheater room before each practice to go over film before splitting off into position groups meetings) with a wine cooler. Probably 7am in the morning, maybe even 6 am as it was fall camp, drinking a wine cooler. T.O. found out about it (I think T.O is the one who actually noticed it, I was right there as Tyrone was sitting right next to me), asked him about it, Tyrone played dumb and said he got it out of the pop machine in the locker room, LMAO. The rest of the receivers were like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. Nothing happened to Tyrone, lol. Just a "don't do it again" talk. Lotta guys would have gotten their walking papers if they had done that, but not Tyrone. He was talented, but lazy.

It was pretty well known some of the players partied hard when we went to bowls. I didn't see it as it was before my time there, but in the 80's supposedly quite a few of them would get back to their room at 4 or later in the morning. Cocaine was the drug of choice for them was the word.

I saw Raemakers and a couple other guys choke each other out in the locker room. Purposefully letting another guy get behind them and choking them with their arm until they passed out. Also saw these same guys doing "chocolate beers" off each others ass cracks once in the locker room. WTF man, lol.

Saw a few JUCO guys with envelopes with a grand or so in their locker when practice was over. Apparently a booster was paying these bigger name JUCO guys like this. Didn't see anyone else get money. Tyrone Hughes had a very nice, new sports car with purportedly a 10K stereo system in it. He used to drive around under the stadium showing off and banging music until T.O. told him to knock it off. Really doubt Tyrone had the funds for that car or stereo setup.... T.O. knew that one of the local car dealers probably gave him the ride somehow.

Johnny Mitchell rarely to never went to class. He was in one of my classes and about halfway through the year (he had never been to that class up to that point), right as class started and we were going to take a test, he sits right next to me and says "hey bro, give me the answers as soon as you get them". He actually stood up and was copying my answers with no care in the world, the teacher never did anything. Had another class, this one a very large one, where on the last day of class, finals day, about 8 players (all starters) came in and had all the answers typed out in their hands to every quiz and test for the entire class. They literally took all the quizzes and tests that day. I asked one of them afterwards and he said one of the female "tutors" for the team gave them all the answers. Teacher had to know what was going on, nothing ever was said or happened.

Johnny Mitchell - I have quite a few stories about him honestly. I knew him pretty well as he was my next door neighbor in the dorms. It was clear the coaches wanted me to be a good example for him. LOL, with that guy no one could get him to do anything. One time he had a bunch of cash he was showing, said he already had an agent. Someone called bullshit, Johnny said "fine, I'll call him and put him on speaker phone". He called, and sure enough a guy that certainly sounded like an agent was talking. Johnny also missed a lot of practice - a lot. His last year there, he was mad because he didn't think they were throwing to him enough. He had skipped several practices in a row, and the coaches were getting worried. I will never forget when he came walking in the last half of practice, we were running 11 on 11 drills. I was actually standing right next to T.O., Johnny came up and told him "I'm quitting if you don't throw me the rock at least 10 times a game". Many of us heard this. Not a surprise, but that was his last year on the team.
 
It was pretty well known some of the players partied hard when we went to bowls. I didn't see it as it was before my time there, but in the 80's supposedly quite a few of them would get back to their room at 4 or later in the morning. Cocaine was the drug of choice for them was the word.
I know an 80s guy (around 85) that didn't get to play in the orange bowl because of this. Said he was out partying all night and didn't even get to suit up. Was a walk on and wouldn't have played much if at all anyway.
 
Can't say I knew of any "scandals", but certainly some minor juicy nugs.

My freshman year, Tyrone Hughes came into team meetings at fall camp (the entire team met in one large amphitheater room before each practice to go over film before splitting off into position groups meetings) with a wine cooler. Probably 7am in the morning, maybe even 6 am as it was fall camp, drinking a wine cooler. T.O. found out about it (I think T.O is the one who actually noticed it, I was right there as Tyrone was sitting right next to me), asked him about it, Tyrone played dumb and said he got it out of the pop machine in the locker room, LMAO. The rest of the receivers were like, you gotta be fucking kidding me. Nothing happened to Tyrone, lol. Just a "don't do it again" talk. Lotta guys would have gotten their walking papers if they had done that, but not Tyrone. He was talented, but lazy.

It was pretty well known some of the players partied hard when we went to bowls. I didn't see it as it was before my time there, but in the 80's supposedly quite a few of them would get back to their room at 4 or later in the morning. Cocaine was the drug of choice for them was the word.

I saw Raemakers and a couple other guys choke each other out in the locker room. Purposefully letting another guy get behind them and choking them with their arm until they passed out. Also saw these same guys doing "chocolate beers" off each others ass cracks once in the locker room. WTF man, lol.

Saw a few JUCO guys with envelopes with a grand or so in their locker when practice was over. Apparently a booster was paying these bigger name JUCO guys like this. Didn't see anyone else get money. Tyrone Hughes had a very nice, new sports car with purportedly a 10K stereo system in it. He used to drive around under the stadium showing off and banging music until T.O. told him to knock it off. Really doubt Tyrone had the funds for that car or stereo setup.... T.O. knew that one of the local car dealers probably gave him the ride somehow.

Johnny Mitchell rarely to never went to class. He was in one of my classes and about halfway through the year (he had never been to that class up to that point), right as class started and we were going to take a test, he sits right next to me and says "hey bro, give me the answers as soon as you get them". He actually stood up and was copying my answers with no care in the world, the teacher never did anything. Had another class, this one a very large one, where on the last day of class, finals day, about 8 players (all starters) came in and had all the answers typed out in their hands to every quiz and test for the entire class. They literally took all the quizzes and tests that day. I asked one of them afterwards and he said one of the female "tutors" for the team gave them all the answers. Teacher had to know what was going on, nothing ever was said or happened.

Johnny Mitchell - I have quite a few stories about him honestly. I knew him pretty well as he was my next door neighbor in the dorms. It was clear the coaches wanted me to be a good example for him. LOL, with that guy no one could get him to do anything. One time he had a bunch of cash he was showing, said he already had an agent. Someone called bullshit, Johnny said "fine, I'll call him and put him on speaker phone". He called, and sure enough a guy that certainly sounded like an agent was talking. Johnny also missed a lot of practice - a lot. His last year there, he was mad because he didn't think they were throwing to him enough. He had skipped several practices in a row, and the coaches were getting worried. I will never forget when he came walking in the last half of practice, we were running 11 on 11 drills. I was actually standing right next to T.O., Johnny came up and told him "I'm quitting if you don't throw me the rock at least 10 times a game". Many of us heard this. Not a surprise, but that was his last year on the team.
Describe a chocolate beer. I have an idea, but need to confirm my suspicion.
 
Christian
In 1993 Peter was accused of groping Natalie Kuijvenhoven (a former Miss Nebraska) in a crowded bar. He pled guilty and was sentenced to 18 months probation, and was suspended for a 1993 exhibition game. Following the 1993 charges from Kuijvenhoven, Kathy Redmond, who attended the University of Nebraska with Peter, came forward and claimed that Peter had sexually assaulted her during their freshman year in 1991. No criminal charges were filed in the matter, but Redmond did file a Title IX suit against the University of Nebraska in 1995; the suit was settled out of court.[3]

In 1994, only a month before the draft, Peter was convicted of disturbing the peace after a woman accused him of grabbing her throat in a Kearney, Nebraska bar. He said he was under the influence during the altercation and admitted to responding in an inexcusable way after she allegedly called him a rapist.

 
In 1993 Peter was accused of groping Natalie Kuijvenhoven (a former Miss Nebraska) in a crowded bar. He pled guilty and was sentenced to 18 months probation, and was suspended for a 1993 exhibition game. Following the 1993 charges from Kuijvenhoven, Kathy Redmond, who attended the University of Nebraska with Peter, came forward and claimed that Peter had sexually assaulted her during their freshman year in 1991. No criminal charges were filed in the matter, but Redmond did file a Title IX suit against the University of Nebraska in 1995; the suit was settled out of court.[3]

In 1994, only a month before the draft, Peter was convicted of disturbing the peace after a woman accused him of grabbing her throat in a Kearney, Nebraska bar. He said he was under the influence during the altercation and admitted to responding in an inexcusable way after she allegedly called him a rapist.

He sure was good at football though.
 
Nebraska had a head coach sometime around 2019 or so that apparently had wild orgies after every home game, bankrolled hooker trips with assistants, did all the drugs, leased a condo on the top floor of a hotel, kicked his wife and young kids to the curb to live this American psycho lifestyle and also was bombed at a casino MJ style til 3:00 am morning of a game. No cell pics or anything but we talking wildness!
 
As someone who has personally seen Tommie attempt to “spit game” on multiple occasions, he’s got a type. Blonde white women that are on the chubbier side.
We're the same, he and I.
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Natalie Kuijvenhoven
 
In 1993 Peter was accused of groping Natalie Kuijvenhoven (a former Miss Nebraska) in a crowded bar. He pled guilty and was sentenced to 18 months probation, and was suspended for a 1993 exhibition game. Following the 1993 charges from Kuijvenhoven, Kathy Redmond, who attended the University of Nebraska with Peter, came forward and claimed that Peter had sexually assaulted her during their freshman year in 1991. No criminal charges were filed in the matter, but Redmond did file a Title IX suit against the University of Nebraska in 1995; the suit was settled out of court.[3]

In 1994, only a month before the draft, Peter was convicted of disturbing the peace after a woman accused him of grabbing her throat in a Kearney, Nebraska bar. He said he was under the influence during the altercation and admitted to responding in an inexcusable way after she allegedly called him a rapist.

Ahhhh the glory days
 
Describe a chocolate beer. I have an idea, but need to confirm my suspicion.

...excuse me?!

Chocolate beer.... beer poured over someone's ass crack with the drinker underneath said ass crack drinking the beer.

I had never even heard or thought of such a thing until I saw it happen in the locker room that day. No idea why someone would do that.... especially a dude drinking off another dudes ass.

There are certain things you never forget. Someone passed out because he had their teammate choke them out in the locker room. Same set of dudes drinking ass beer off each others assholes. All in the GD locker room. It wasn't exactly in a back corner some where. Any coach or whoever could have walked right in. These guys were pretty nuts.

On a side note, Christian Peter was a huge human. Dude had the biggest legs and quads I have ever seen. I mean, I got used to being around a bunch of 6'-3"+, 300 lb+ lineman being around them all the time, but Christian had legs that were enormous, even compared to other big dudes. Only mention it because he was brought up earlier in the thread. Never spent any time around Christian outside of campus.

I never saw anyone do anything "illegal" or the sexual assault shit, etc nothing like that. The guys I hung out with were not like that, we were all pretty even keel. Not out looking for attention, etc. My best friend on the team didn't drink at all, I didn't even drink until the fall of my sophomore year. So guys like us (that would include Berringer in our group), we pretty much steered clear of any situations that would possibly get us in trouble. We still had fun, just didn't get stupid.
 
Chocolate beer.... beer poured over someone's ass crack with the drinker underneath said ass crack drinking the beer.

I had never even heard or thought of such a thing until I saw it happen in the locker room that day. No idea why someone would do that.... especially a dude drinking off another dudes ass.

There are certain things you never forget. Someone passed out because he had their teammate choke them out in the locker room. Same set of dudes drinking ass beer off each others assholes. All in the GD locker room. It wasn't exactly in a back corner some where. Any coach or whoever could have walked right in. These guys were pretty nuts.

On a side note, Christian Peter was a huge human. Dude had the biggest legs and quads I have ever seen. I mean, I got used to being around a bunch of 6'-3"+, 300 lb+ lineman being around them all the time, but Christian had legs that were enormous, even compared to other big dudes. Only mention it because he was brought up earlier in the thread. Never spent any time around Christian outside of campus.

I never saw anyone do anything "illegal" or the sexual assault shit, etc nothing like that. The guys I hung out with were not like that, we were all pretty even keel. Not out looking for attention, etc. My best friend on the team didn't drink at all, I didn't even drink until the fall of my sophomore year. So guys like us (that would include Berringer in our group), we pretty much steered clear of any situations that would possibly get us in trouble. We still had fun, just didn't get stupid.
tman87 was is your opinion of the team we have now? and of frost's first 3 seasons?
 
I know an 80s guy (around 85) that didn't get to play in the orange bowl because of this. Said he was out partying all night and didn't even get to suit up. Was a walk on and wouldn't have played much if at all anyway.

I can believe that. A starter or star player would not have gotten suspended most likely. But a 3rd string or lower guy? They would probably suspend him or flat out tell him he was done. But they would still keep it pretty quiet.

I remember one practice I had turned my ankle during practice, went in to see the head trainer to get it looked at and re-taped. He got a phone call as he was taping my ankle, looked at me and said, you won't say anything, will you? I said of course I wouldn't (had no idea what he was talking about or the subject of the phone call, just said I wouldn't say anything). He got out a pen and paper, and started writing down some names as whoever was on the other end of the call was speaking. Literally did this right next to me, so I saw the names. It was guys who got popped for a roids or drug test. Seeing the list, it was most likely PED's. This was an internal drug test we had taken, not an NCAA drug test, so this was kept quiet. I assume that the guys were talked to, but it was mostly if not all D or O line sized guys on the list, so not really surprising those big guys might be juicing.

On the juicing thing - I bet T.O. was never told about guys who got caught. T.O. was adamant about not juicing, he was terrified of having any of our players get caught by the NCAA for juicing. The NCAA would do several random team tests a year - supposedly not announced - that's what they told us at least. The entire team would stand in a line, by alphabetical order usually, and go up and pee in a cup with several (like maybe a dozen) people watching. Often this was done right under the stadium after practice, right under the seats. Basically anyone could see this go down. So you have 150ish guys, training staff a few women in that group), the NCAA testing people and whoever was behind you in line (could have been a lot of guys depending on your spot in line), waiting for you to whiz. Pretty professional, lol.

Also on the juicing thing - if it was somehow pushed or sponsored by anyone involved with the team, I never saw or heard about it. IDK if it was just one of those things players did on their own, or players and their position teammates, but as a skill position player it was never something ever discussed amongst the players. In retrospect, I figured out some of the skill position guys who likely did juice some (there weren't many IMO), simply from learning about it more after I had played and realizing some of the progress they had made quickly in training didn't really add up. At the time, it never crossed my mind though, just thought they were making great strides in S&C T.O. was so freaked about anyone on the team getting caught, he once had a talk with the whole team about (at the time a new supplement) Yohimbine and how it could raise your testosterone and possibly make you fail a drug test (which is not true of the substance really, it is more like a natural libido enhancer, but didn't know that back then), so we had to stay away from Yohimbine by T.O.'s orders. One time I was in the elevator with him alone, this was right after his talk to the team about yohimbine, he even took the time to make sure I knew to stay away from it. LOL. Love T.O. though - great guy.
 
tman87 was is your opinion of the team we have now? and of frost's first 3 seasons?

We have gotten extremely soft - just not up to snuff physically. Seems like the work ethic isn't what it used to be, judging by the state of too many of our players physical condition. I think we have made progress in this area, though. It seems to me we have fewer stick armed, beer belly lineman than we did in the past 5 or so years. Overall the conditioning of the team looks to be improving.

Besides not being physically dominant, I think the will to win is not nearly what it used to be. Just the entire football program - seems like they haven't had that desire to just win. Easy for me to say many years after I played, when we were the dominant physical program in the country, but winning was everything and it didn't have to be talked about, it just was that way. The players and program has gotten used to losing, too used to it. Again, easy for me to say having been away from the program (moved away from Lincoln 20 years ago this year), but that's what my eyes tell me.

Coaching wise with Frost so far - man, I have been disappointed in how sloppy we are. We are almost the polar opposite of a T.O. team. Mistakes galore, penalties, terrible special teams - it is extremely hard to watch how we have played as a team these last 5+ years. I honestly can't believe T.O. wouldn't be on the horn or meeting with Frost and staff about this, at least to talk about it. It has to be driving him crazy to be so bad at these extremely important concepts and part of the game.

I am also not very impressed with the coaching staff in regards to scheme and adjustments. Seems like we do fine the first few series often, but after the scripted plays are done, we start to struggle. Also don't think we have a consistent game plan. And I dislike trying to play up tempo, primarily because we are so undisciplined, there is no way we can play up tempo when we are already sloppy as fuck. Martinez also is far too slow getting in to the next play, and we all know he isn't seeing things well enough to make reads in plays a lot, well you can also see he struggles to get the play called and team lined up to have any kind of successful up tempo strategy. Slow it down and give these guys a chance to get comfortable executing the plays that the coaches send in. Rushing is only magnifying the issue, IMO.

We don't seem to develop players well, either. Just hasn't been happening for these last 5 years or so. Development of talent, and utilizing that talent, is what separates coaches.

Defensively, I have long said I am not a fan of the 3-4 defense. I don't think it fits us well personally. I would prefer a 4-3 scheme with plenty of nickel. Get some big safeties up at OLB or nickel and let the 4 guys with hands on the ground bring the heat on the QB. Honestly, a lot like Mcbride had us doing in the 90's. But that isn't what Chinander wants to do, at least not as our base. I realize we are often not in our base 3-4 anyway, but I just am not fond of the 3-4 in general. Our defense should be better this year though, and we have a really good D Line and some super seniors back, so I think this years D should be improved. We will see.
 

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