If you were NU AD would you move on from Hoiberg?

[HerbRedman]

I’m pretty sure I’m one of the few on this board that has repeatedly said we should move on and people constantly think it’s crazy. It blows my mind that we pack PBA on a regular basis and after 6 years most fans think this is what we deserve. We are turning into to Cockeye with Fran. I get the program has never been good but if we don’t want to try to improve than just get rid of it.

I'd keep Fred around for a yr 7. But you're not wrong. The big difference is the finishing in bottom 3 of the B1G. Everyone's like "if you fire Fred, the new guy might be worse."

But if you're already 16th in the B1G and missing the B1G tournament, it can't get much worse.

If he goes 16-18 finish again next year there's no earthly reason to being him back.

 

[SOHusker11]

Sounds like a guy who'll be back to me. Lock it up.

RW:

Nebraska head coach Fred Hoiberg had his monthly radio show on the Huskers Radio Network tonight.

I got the sense that he wanted to properly convey his message to NU fans about the program's future after this season's disappointing finish.

Here's what he had to say:

“I promise you this, Husker Nation, we are going to do everything we can to get this thing back to where we are in the tournament, and we are going to be there consistently. This place means the world to me. I absolutely love it. I’m passionate about it. We’ve got staff right now that are out on the road recruiting, and once the portal opens up, obviously, we’re going to be active in it.

“We’re going to put a team on the court that’s going to fit the values of Huskers. I think this team was. It was a hard-working team; we just did not close out games the way we needed to. We’re going to do everything in our power to get this thing right and to get a consistent winner on the court.”

 

[Dell Husker]

Sounds like a guy who'll be back to me. Lock it up.

RW:

Nebraska head coach Fred Hoiberg had his monthly radio show on the Huskers Radio Network tonight.

I got the sense that he wanted to properly convey his message to NU fans about the program's future after this season's disappointing finish.

Here's what he had to say:

“I promise you this, Husker Nation, we are going to do everything we can to get this thing back to where we are in the tournament, and we are going to be there consistently. This place means the world to me. I absolutely love it. I’m passionate about it. We’ve got staff right now that are out on the road recruiting, and once the portal opens up, obviously, we’re going to be active in it.

“We’re going to put a team on the court that’s going to fit the values of Huskers. I think this team was. It was a hard-working team; we just did not close out games the way we needed to. We’re going to do everything in our power to get this thing right and to get a consistent winner on the court.”

What’s the values of Huskers?

 

[SOHusker11]

What’s the values of Huskers?

Hell if I know. I hope it means winning more games.

 

[HuskerGarrett]

Honestly I feel like Fred will figure it out eventually, and plus I don’t want to kms when basketball loses so I don’t mind waiting.

 

[DrinkItIn]

I think the bottom line is Hoiberg just isn't doing a good job and it really isn't that hard for a power conference team to make the NCAA tournament. They take the top 40-45 teams, you don't really have to be that good to be a top 45 team.

I agree, Hoiberg has done a shitty job outside of last year, but I think you are oversimplifying the idea that "it really isn't that hard for a power conference team to make the NCAA tournament." There are only 37 spots available for at-large teams once all the conference tournament champions are in. The P5 will generally get the most bids and send the most teams, but that still requires to finish generally in the upper half of your conference, but that doesn't guarantee a spot.

Below are the 37 projected at-large bids for this year, leaving only 34 P5 at-large spots available—making the path to the NCAA Tournament pretty tough, even for P5 programs. If it were truly "easy," teams with richer basketball histories than NU like Louisville (last appearance: 2019), Utah (2016), Wake Forest (2017), Butler (2018), Cincinnati (2019), and St. John’s (2019) would be making the tournament consistently.

The only P5 schools with fewer all-time bids than Nebraska (8) are Northwestern (3) and UCF (5). UCF wasn't D1 until 1985.

Projected


Now if you were to say that making your conference tournament should be easy, which Nebraska failed to do, I would totally agree with you.

 

[PlumbingCarrot]

If we want to be middle of the line keep hoiberg and rhule and dont increase NIL. If we want to be good again the university needs to open up the checkbook get real coaches and players.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

Fred has a wonky record where you can simultaneously point to how bad the conference finishes have been, and the overall record is still not great, or you can emphasize how he got us to the tourney last year, and had us on the cusp this year until the skid the last few games, and being in the conversation back to back years hasn't happened in forever here.

Feels like we're completely reworking the roster almost every year, and haven't had hardly any HS recruits pan out, so the roller coaster probably keeps going until that gets figured out.

I'm on team one more year to show something, with some kind of structural change about how we get/choose players. If we have a strong year next year, or at least hit on some young guys that show they'll be a core group to build on, then Fred stays. A middling year with a transfer portal hodgepodge of older guys, and it's time to move on.

I hope it works out.

 

[Dell Husker]

I want Fred to work just because of how easy it would be to root for his success if it was consistent. Two things need to either happen though:
1. The university and 1890 have to go all in on supporting Fred
2. We pull the plug asap

If one of them don’t happen we are just prolonging the inevitable. Among the many concerning things of his time here, the final 5 games really stick out. I don’t know if you blame the coaches, players, or both but they all knew what the task was and they couldn’t even win two. Like I said, I hope it works but it’s not looking like it will.

 

[NorthWillRiseAgain]

I think the yr 7 is deciding year.

Fred's actually at the point in the movie Step Brothers when they're interviewing for a job with Seth Rogen. He thinks something is off with them but assumes they're being quirky on purpose. Then John C Reilly let's out like a 1-min fart and Rogen goes "now the tuxedos seem kinda fucked up."


Hoiberg's yr 7 is either gonna be a "oh so you had this master plan all along?" or it fails miserably and he's gonna be the tuxedo at a job interview guy "now your 31% winning percentage seems kinda fucked up."

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I like Fred the person. He has severely screwed up Nebraska’s roster decisions over the years though. He doesn’t get freshmen in, and the ones he does ride the bench then leave.

A lot of teams win based on transfers, but he’s never really seemed to look at it like a puzzle, just tried to force it together imo.

Hard to see this team doing well with so much of the core gone, essentially a complete rebuild beyond guys like Mast(healthy?) and a hot or cold Connor.

 

[Blakejc]

So most folks want to give a dude who’s 30-80 in conference play a 3rd chance to recreate himself? Are we on batshit crazy island or something?

 

[Southendzonehusker]

I thought we should have fired him and got Pitino when he was on the market. How can you say we are turning into Cockeye with Fran though? He has a better program than us.

I don’t disagree with any of that. I guess my point is this is the one team in all of husker athletics that people just accept it’s not good.

 

[Sous Chef]

Sounds like a guy who'll be back to me. Lock it up.

RW:

Nebraska head coach Fred Hoiberg had his monthly radio show on the Huskers Radio Network tonight.

I got the sense that he wanted to properly convey his message to NU fans about the program's future after this season's disappointing finish.

Here's what he had to say:

“I promise you this, Husker Nation, we are going to do everything we can to get this thing back to where we are in the tournament, and we are going to be there consistently. This place means the world to me. I absolutely love it. I’m passionate about it. We’ve got staff right now that are out on the road recruiting, and once the portal opens up, obviously, we’re going to be active in it.

“We’re going to put a team on the court that’s going to fit the values of Huskers. I think this team was. It was a hard-working team; we just did not close out games the way we needed to. We’re going to do everything in our power to get this thing right and to get a consistent winner on the court.”

 

[EwokRhuler]

fred is perfect for us.

Sad but true

SUFFAH SKERS

 

[HughJanus]

We're the worst power five? Power whatever program in the country. He hasn't done shit yet. He's not going to do shit ever.

Nobody cares about basketball here. Keep him forever or do something truly retarded like hire Shaq.

 

[Quint]

Feels like we're completely reworking the roster almost every year,

This has been my biggest complaint, until this year. We seem to constantly be in 'Emergency rebuild mode', even before the portal was much of a thing. I get that High School recruiting isn't what it once was, but you've still got to get a couple of contributors every year or you're flipping the roster....again.

I'd add to my complaints the seeming lack of a real structure in game. If we're hitting threes, we're golden. If we're not, we're screwed. That isn't an offense that's going to win you a ton of games.

 

[Adolph Coors]

i said early in the season that we were wayyyy too unathletic, even when we started 12-2, but we had fresh legs and were playing mid ahh teams.

 

[DrinkItIn]

I’m fine with keeping Hoiberg for another year—just as I would have been fine keeping Miles too. Postseason basketball is a rarity for Nebraska. Since the Danny Nee era—the golden age of Nebraska basketball 🤣 —the Huskers have made the postseason just 10 times in 26 years (38%), including 2 NCAA Tournament bids and 8 NIT/Crown appearances.

So, Nebraska has averaged 1 NCAA Tournament appearance every 13 years and an NIT/Crown appearance every 3.7 years since Nee. In that entire span, the program has managed back-to-back postseason appearances only three times—once each under Sadler, Miles, and Hoiberg.

Miles was fired after consecutive NIT appearances, so we will never know if he could have built on that. At least with Hoiberg—who has also delivered back-to-back postseason berths—we will find out if he can keep it going or not.

 

[Havoc34]

Clearly I'm in the minority here but I am out on Fred

 

[lee_carvallo_12]

I'd keep Fred around for a yr 7. But you're not wrong. The big difference is the finishing in bottom 3 of the B1G. Everyone's like "if you fire Fred, the new guy might be worse."

But if you're already 16th in the B1G and missing the B1G tournament, it can't get much worse.

If he goes 16-18 finish again next year there's no earthly reason to being him back.

I'd love to be a top half B1G bball team on a consistent basis and ncaa tourney lock, but we just don't get to have nice things around here. Ya'll know this.

Also, I hate to be an "I told you so" prick on this "we probably aren't even making the B1G tourney, let alone NCAA tourney" guy.... but with sadness and extreme regret.... I told you so. 🙁