Dynasty

[gtlacey]

I think dynasties are 3. I don't think you can have a dynasty of 2.

NFL Dynasties:
60's Packers (you have to count the pre-Super Bowl championships of '61, '62, '65)
70's Steelers (4 SB's in 6 appearances)
80's 49ers (4 in a decade)
90's Cowboys (3 in 4 years)
2000's Patriots (x2: early 2000's, mid to late teens)


I'm guessing the Chiefs will make it with Mahomes, but calling them a dynasty now is premature, imo.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Anyone ask about the departure from how defensive holding had been officiated to that point?

 

[Jim14510]

Anyone ask about the departure from how defensive holding had been officiated to that point?

I'd like to know how many other times there was a "clear case" of defensive holding during that game.

@alt f4 said on insider that it was a hold. So I could torture him until he recants that position but he lives all the way in Lincoln and I'm a bit busy for torturing people.

Easier just to say I'm wrong. It was a hold.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I'd like to know how many other times there was a "clear case" of defensive holding during that game.

@alt f4 said on insider that it was a hold. So I could torture him until he recants that position but he lives all the way in Lincoln and I'm a bit busy for torturing people.

Easier just to say I'm wrong. It was a hold.

It irritates the shit out of me when officials hide behind the "letter of the law" on calls like this while ignoring the fact that they hadn't called the game that way the entire time. I've seen probably a half dozen plays today across both teams where a similar level of contact went uncalled

 

[alt f4]

I'd like to know how many other times there was a "clear case" of defensive holding during that game.

@alt f4 said on insider that it was a hold. So I could torture him until he recants that position but he lives all the way in Lincoln and I'm a bit busy for torturing people.

Easier just to say I'm wrong. It was a hold.

Hell, living in north Lincoln is torture enough. I'm reminded daily why South Lincoln gets all the good stuff.

It irritates the shit out of me when officials hide behind the "letter of the law" on calls like this while ignoring the fact that they hadn't called the game that way the entire time. I've seen probably a half dozen plays today across both teams where a similar level of contact went uncalled

Defensive holding, like all non safety fouls,has a philosophy behind if they get called or not. Safety fouls are like blindside blocks, blocks below waist, targeting, etc. Those all are all by letter of the law (to an extend). Non safety fouls like DPI/OPI, holding, defensive holding have steps or categories to determine if they're a foul.

Defensive holding is a 2 step process, first did defender restrict the offensive player from his route or blocking assignment. If pass play and restriction by grasp or hold, next step is look at QB is he looking in that receiver's direction or was the pass ultimately thrown that receivers way. If both 1 and 2 are met its defensive holding (DH) . Why you might see a lot of DHs not get called is step 2 criteria is not met.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

I'd like to know how many other times there was a "clear case" of defensive holding during that game.

The one that I remember was when juju was turned around on a 3rd down. Now that would've been DPI, but similar situation.

@alt f4 said on insider that it was a hold. So I could torture him until he recants that position but he lives all the way in Lincoln and I'm a bit busy for torturing people

Right call at the end of the day

 

[Mr.Bojangles]

🤦

 

[Jim14510]

Defensive holding is a 2 step process, first did defender restrict the offensive player from his route or blocking assignment. If pass play and restriction by grasp or hold, next step is look at QB is he looking in that receiver's direction or was the pass ultimately thrown that receivers way. If both 1 and 2 are met its defensive holding (DH) . Why you might see a lot of DHs not get called is step 2 criteria is not met.

Would you generally assess how much it influenced the play beyond just whether the qb looking or throwing that way? Or if it was thrown that way it's an automatic assumption that it did influence the play because it's impossible to tell for sure.

 

[CornFed Gregger]

One thing I appreciate about New York, Boston, or Philly fans is they can win & ya know once the next season starts they’ll be the first to hate their team. In the Midwest, it’s never ending jerking off cuz no one else wins jack shit even if it’s only 2 titles in 30 years.

 

[alt f4]

The one that I remember was when juju was turned around on a 3rd down. Now that would've been DPI, but similar situation.


Right call at the end of the day

I posted about that one Inside Nebraska board.

I do agree they missed that one early. I don't believe they didn't miss it because they didn't think it was a foul.
My guesses on the miss are:
1. The official whose key (watching JuJu) got straight lined. Straight lined means his entire view was cut off by another player(s) or looking through the back of defender.
2. Crossing routes officials switch keys and it could have been in the process of that switch not seeing the entire foul.
3. Backjudge could have been bailing on a deep route which took him off secondary coverage (he has best angle to see this foul).

Edit:
Found the clip:

It's a combo of #1 and #2 and #3. The LOS official (DJ or LJ) has this action after receiver starts across the middle of the field. BJ has that #3 WR who is clearing the hash and being chased by an Eagles defender. That LOS official would be looking through the back of the defender and can't see the arm grab. The SJ/FJ would be looking through 4 players to see it. BJ has to stay with his key because the defender is trailing and can easily grab and hold that receiver.

 

[Mustangblood]

@alt f4 what was your thoughts on the catch no catch for the two eagles on the sidelines along with the catch and fumble that they called an incomplete pass. Not saying they got any of those wrong, just want to hear your opinion on those.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

 

[Jim14510]

What a douche. Probably got treated better than he deserved.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Frank beat up any more chicks after this one?

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

Frank beat up any more chicks after this one?

I am just glad the culture around the Chiefs has made him a better person and a 2 time super bowl champ

 

[jickey moseph]

got damn

 

[Jim14510]

got damn

Christ it's not just Chiefs fans that are unbearable. Players too.

 

[Faux Sean Callahan]

He is trashed hahaha