Do you think TJ gives us a better chance to win than a healthy Dylan?

[BusterScruggs]

The fact that you’re even entertaining the idea that Lateef could be on the same level as Dylan tells me you were never a real supporter of Dylan and are not a ball-knower.

 

[V-Doub]

I think there's an element of "don't believe your own eyes, trust the experts" happening. It's hard to shake that initial perception you get from the star rankings, the hyped recruitment process, the other offers, etc.. But it's a little weird in this case because it's not like TJ is some walk-on nobody or a transfer portal reject. If Rhule has done his job in recruiting (which I feel he has in this case), there's no reason to think TJ couldn't be just as good if not better.

Maybe some of us just want to see how TJ plays when we can’t run the ball. Which may happen against both pedo and Cockeye. Most QBs look pretty good when you’re running the ball for 6-7 yds a carry. I want to see how he plays when we’re averaging 2 yds a carry.

I’ve seen enough to say it’s possible he could be better. I haven’t seen enough to say he definitively is.

Disclaimer: I’d be perfectly fine with us never averaging 2-3 yds a carry again. But we all know that’s not gonna happen in today CFB and B1G.

 

[Cash68847]

Would be nice to have the Millard South kid coming into the QB room next year instead of or in addition to Dylan’s little brother

Just adds another wrinkle to what could fairly quickly become a bit of an awkward situation

Who knows? It’s hard to tell how good the kid is when he never gets hit.

 

[Cash68847]

I mean, we all understand why we’re only taking 1 QB this class and it’s a kid with no other P4 offers

Same reason we retain the longest tenured OL coach in the B1G to produce neither a draft pick or all-conference selection

Why does it matter if you can get a qb in the portal? The two best teams in the BIG have used the portal to find qbs. OSU did it with Howard last year and Indiana has did it the last two years. If we are willing to spend 3 million a year on Raiola, we can get a good transfer if the high school guys don’t work out.

 

[HerbRedman]

who is dylans nfl comp? ive been trying to come up with a current qb and its difficult. all of these guys are athletes in the modern league, just not a ton of statues.

Mac Jones?

According to Nessler/Danielson it's:

 

[Baron Winnebago]

According to Nessler/Danielson it's:

Until I see Dylan uncork it, he's like Stafford with 60% of the arm

 

[HerbRedman]

Based on his comments and what we've heard on the board about NIL commitment. I don't think he's leaving. Seems like a pretty big culture guy.

I agree and I would lean toward Lateef staying. He does sound like a big culture guy, etc.

The single transfer portal window REALLY helps here. Bc many have started the offseason as 'big culture guys' but they get worn down by the big $$$ sales pitches and the promises of playing time in the offseason.

IIRC we just have to make it through the January portal window with Lateef and then he's stuck here for 2026? It used to be a free for all w a Dec/Mar/June portal window IIRC

 

[HerbRedman]

I think there's an element of "don't believe your own eyes, trust the experts" happening. It's hard to shake that initial perception you get from the star rankings, the hyped recruitment process, the other offers, etc.. But it's a little weird in this case because it's not like TJ is some walk-on nobody or a transfer portal reject. If Rhule has done his job in recruiting (which I feel he has in this case), there's no reason to think TJ couldn't be just as good if not better.

My theory on this is people see TJ as a guy who's willing to ball out (and take the consequences of that) and Dylan has turned into a very hesitant, slow processing, ineffective QB. And fans are willing to rock with the ball-out young kid.

Look at the trend Dylan was on. He was very likely gonna go 4 of 5 games without hitting 200 passing yards. That's not good. If we had the Dylan from 2024 Illinois 1st half (where he was absolutely balling out) I think more people would be on the Dylan is still #1 train. But we saw some bad, bad, bad, bad offensive football from Dylan. This year. And parts of last year too.

I don't blame fans at all for going "I've seen enough" RE: Dylan. However I think if we let these last 3 games play out the answer will be fairly obvious either way. So I'm not worrying about it.

 

[Adolph Coors]

Until I see Dylan uncork it, he's like Stafford with 60% of the arm

eggzaclee

 

[Cash68847]

My theory on this is people see TJ as a guy who's willing to ball out (and take the consequences of that) and Dylan has turned into a very hesitant, slow processing, ineffective QB. And fans are willing to rock with the ball-out young kid.

Look at the trend Dylan was on. He was very likely gonna go 4 of 5 games without hitting 200 passing yards. That's not good. If we had the Dylan from 2024 Illinois 1st half (where he was absolutely balling out) I think more people would be on the Dylan is still #1 train. But we saw some bad, bad, bad, bad offensive football from Dylan. This year. And parts of last year too.

I don't blame fans at all for going "I've seen enough" RE: Dylan. However I think if we let these last 3 games play out the answer will be fairly obvious either way. So I'm not worrying about it.


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If Dylan is actually making 3 million a year he isn’t worth it on the field wise. He isn’t a top tier BIG qb.

 

[Sous Chef]

If Dylan is actually making 3 million a year he isn’t worth it on the field wise. He isn’t a top tier BIG qb.