Twitter Connor Stalions has a point

[...TrueColors...]

Before we go adding games now, we have to acknowledge that at some point the players are going to say no.

You go to a 16 game playoff schedule you’re adding another 4 games and potentially 6 weeks to a football schedule that you’re going to either have to take into the month of February, or start the season in mid August.

The juco injunction (and I’m not as educated on it as @Carm ) really throws some of what you want off and I see a domino effect shortly and here is what I see:

1) Juco injunction happened - it’s actually a sound legal argument from what I’ve been able to gather
2) NCAA as a reaction and as @Mythosaur pointed out will likely cause them or the new governing body to lobby congress for an anti-trust exemption which they will likely win as many pro sports leagues have them.
3) If number two happens, I think it paves the way for the players to unionize and collective bargaining agreements to be set in place which likely means the players will have a say in how long or short the season becomes. We saw it in the NFL. We’ll see it if it comes to this in college.

This brings up another completely different subject where schools may have to decide on whether these kids are employees or what are they? But conversations in that category will likely need to happen.

So will the players agree to 4 more games potentially? If a G5 school gets in and does the improbable you’re looking at potentially a 17 game season.

I’ve long gotten out of the prediction game in college sports because every time I think I know something I’m proven wrong in real time for all to see. So the only thing I’ll offer up is that we area in completely different waters now and nothing is as simple as we think it is. The product is too good right now for it to just end. So it certainly won’t. But we really need professionals in power at the university to navigate this business or there is certainly a world where Husker football goes into the dark ages.

 

[Cash68847]

I think schedules balance out better in basketball and the tournament is bigger and washes out more shit.

I also don't trust the CFP committee to not just SEC circle jerk it if the opportunity arises

There might be a steam team from a 2nd tier power conference some years and they will still likely get seeded in the top 5, but the best teams are going to be in the BIG and SEC for the most part. A 2-3 loss Big 12 or ACC team doesn’t deserve an automatic top seed to me. I’m fine with putting them in as a lower seed.

 

[CornFed Gregger]

Before we go adding games now, we have to acknowledge that at some point the players are going to say no.

You go to a 16 game playoff schedule you’re adding another 4 games and potentially 6 weeks to a football schedule that you’re going to either have to take into the month of February, or start the season in mid August.

The juco injunction (and I’m not as educated on it as @Carm ) really throws some of what you want off and I see a domino effect shortly and here is what I see:

1) Juco injunction happened - it’s actually a sound legal argument from what I’ve been able to gather
2) NCAA as a reaction and as @Mythosaur pointed out will likely cause them or the new governing body to lobby congress for an anti-trust exemption which they will likely win as many pro sports leagues have them.
3) If number two happens, I think it paves the way for the players to unionize and collective bargaining agreements to be set in place which likely means the players will have a say in how long or short the season becomes. We saw it in the NFL. We’ll see it if it comes to this in college.

This brings up another completely different subject where schools may have to decide on whether these kids are employees or what are they? But conversations in that category will likely need to happen.

So will the players agree to 4 more games potentially? If a G5 school gets in and does the improbable you’re looking at potentially a 17 game season.

I’ve long gotten out of the prediction game in college sports because every time I think I know something I’m proven wrong in real time for all to see. So the only thing I’ll offer up is that we area in completely different waters now and nothing is as simple as we think it is. The product is too good right now for it to just end. So it certainly won’t. But we really need professionals in power at the university to navigate this business or there is certainly a world where Husker football goes into the dark ages.

The nfl always leverages benefits for the lower end of earners against the top ones & its how they keep something like a franchise tag every round of negotiations cuz the low end makes up the majority.

College football is the same & it already has the top earners opting out of extra games so I don’t think it’ll be hard to convince/buy/manipulate the majority of players who want to prove themselves or need to earn every penny they can in college cuz they have no shot at the nfl.

 

[Cash68847]

Before we go adding games now, we have to acknowledge that at some point the players are going to say no.

You go to a 16 game playoff schedule you’re adding another 4 games and potentially 6 weeks to a football schedule that you’re going to either have to take into the month of February, or start the season in mid August.

The juco injunction (and I’m not as educated on it as @Carm ) really throws some of what you want off and I see a domino effect shortly and here is what I see:

1) Juco injunction happened - it’s actually a sound legal argument from what I’ve been able to gather
2) NCAA as a reaction and as @Mythosaur pointed out will likely cause them or the new governing body to lobby congress for an anti-trust exemption which they will likely win as many pro sports leagues have them.
3) If number two happens, I think it paves the way for the players to unionize and collective bargaining agreements to be set in place which likely means the players will have a say in how long or short the season becomes. We saw it in the NFL. We’ll see it if it comes to this in college.

This brings up another completely different subject where schools may have to decide on whether these kids are employees or what are they? But conversations in that category will likely need to happen.

So will the players agree to 4 more games potentially? If a G5 school gets in and does the improbable you’re looking at potentially a 17 game season.

I’ve long gotten out of the prediction game in college sports because every time I think I know something I’m proven wrong in real time for all to see. So the only thing I’ll offer up is that we area in completely different waters now and nothing is as simple as we think it is. The product is too good right now for it to just end. So it certainly won’t. But we really need professionals in power at the university to navigate this business or there is certainly a world where Husker football goes into the dark ages.

Why are you adding all this time with a 16 team playoff?

 

[...TrueColors...]

Why are you adding all this time with a 16 team playoff?

Im assuming the timing between each game is the same. It stands at around 10 days in between now. The playoffs didn’t start until 12/21 this year and will end on 1/20. So say you start around 12/21 every year and keep the same calendar, you’re into the last week of January or first part of February pretty easily.

So you’re either doing away with bye weeks or you’re adding more time to the schedule.

That’s not the main point here. My main point is that at some point the players are going to say no and want representation. Having college teams play potentially 17 games with no say in the matter is simply not going to fly. At least not for long.

 

[Cash68847]

Im assuming the timing between each game is the same. It stands at around 10 days in between now. The playoffs didn’t start until 12/21 this year and will end on 1/20. So say you start around 12/21 every year and keep the same calendar, you’re into the last week of January or first part of February pretty easily.

So you’re either doing away with bye weeks or you’re adding more time to the schedule.

That’s not the main point here. My main point is that at some point the players are going to say no and want representation. Having college teams play potentially 17 games with no say in the matter is simply not going to fly. At least not for long.

I think they might do away with conference championship games at some point.

 

[...TrueColors...]

I think they might do away with conference championship games at some point.

That’s likely the path of least resistance.

The only thing I’m certain of anymore with college football is that change is coming. I could envision a world where the top 60 universities based on revenue all break off and form their own “league” with 3 divisions. The reason I say three is because I don’t believe there’s a similar model where 30 teams per division exists.

I just hope Nebraska is agile enough to deal with all of the change.

 

[Cash68847]

That’s likely the path of least resistance.

The only thing I’m certain of anymore with college football is that change is coming. I could envision a world where the top 60 universities based on revenue all break off and form their own “league” with 3 divisions. The reason I say three is because I don’t believe there’s a similar model where 30 teams per division exists.

I just hope Nebraska is agile enough to deal with all of the change.

I think the playoff will expand. Will it stop at 16 or go to 24-32 teams?

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I think the playoff will expand. Will it stop at 16 or go to 24-32 teams?

24 puts you at the same number of teams as FCS so that's my guess

 

[iruletheskool]

Next is the 4 year limitations. Why cant a phd play for the school

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Next is the 4 year limitations. Why cant a phd play for the school

Because I was doplic as fuck?

 

[HughJanus]

Conor needs his own show on ESPN

 

[Stan Raymond]

I think they might do away with conference championship games at some point.

Or incorporate them into part of the playoffs.

 

[Tell_Sackett]

I don’t think we need an insane playoff to figure out who the best teams are. I don’t think we are far off. The frustration is in the blatant narrative building to support conference and network affiliation. ESPN is disgusting with it. “We think Alabama is better so it doesn’t matter that two so-so teams beat them, they should be in the playoff over a 1 loss P2 team and a 2 loss P4 team CCG loser.” They live off of the theory of how good the SEC is and aren’t interested in giving anyone else a shot. But we can’t crown schools based on theory.

The playoff should exclude teams who proved they DO NOT belong like the three SEC schools in favor of schools who perhaps haven’t proven one way or another.

The committee got it right this year in a time where CCG’s still exist. My biggest complaint was Texas being given the benefit of doubt without beating anyone, but their Michigan win is starting to change that.

I'm with you that I'd rather see more "second tier" teams with great records and good resumes get a shot. No team with three conference losses should be in consideration for the playoff unless they are their conference champ. If you are no better than the 4th or 5th best team in your conference, what do you have left to prove?

Ultimately, I think we'll find that the 12 team playoff will lead to the best team losing just as often as it will lead to the best team winning. It's just more opportunity for a slip up and the draw will be widely variable. That said, it's added excitement even if the games haven't all been great.

 

[PonyBoy]

ESPN will continue to pimp the SEC as that's where their interests are. It'll only get worse. They're in deep with the conference & you should start noticing the pimping of SEC hoops teams. It's bad...

...heck, just look at the volleyball tournament. The B1G was regarded, by far, as the best conference all season but somehow the ACC & SEC - both of extreme interest to ESPN - had the same number (9) of teams make the dance as the B1G. Bullshit...

B1G 19-8 (.704)
ACC 16-9 (.640)
SEC 13-9 (.590)

IDGAF what anyone says, Nebraska, Penn State & Wisconsin (1, 2 & 3 in the B1G) end up on the same side of the bracket while Purdue (4 B1G) & Oregon (5 B1G) are on the ACC side of the bracket!? GMAFB.

ESPN runs college sports, thanks to their contract with the SEC & to a much lesser extent the ACC.

 

[Quint]

24 puts you at the same number of teams as FCS so that's my guess

And it’s worked for a long time.

They’ll have to re-stack the playoff schedule (I.e. eliminate off weeks), maybe drop the CCG’s, but they can make it work.