Bowl Game OL Play

[herbsinator]

This kind of feels like a fan coping mechanism (that I am 100% guilty of). We say players shouldn’t be handed roles just because of hype or money, but then get frustrated when a coach actually holds someone to a standard.

At a certain point, if the guys playing absolutely suck and there is someone on the bench that can play better then what “standard” are you really upholding?

As Urban Meyer once said, “I treat my stars like stars and my shit like shit”. I can’t say that TO didn’t have a different viewpoint honestly.

 

[MrKnightedHusker]

A friend of mine started on the OL in the late '80's, he once told me that Milt Tenopir was the most demanding individual he had ever met. Every detail was viewed, evaluated and coached upon. He also shared that he had never felt so loved by anyone, outside of his mother.

He had a number of really interesting stories about Milt T, the best one being:

A fellow lineman had asked if it was really necessary to perfect a particular technique, as he had experienced success doing it a slightly different way.

Milt stared at him and said: "It's not necessary for you to be able to breathe, but long-term you will be more successful if you do." And proceeded to stare at the lineman.

Coaching matters. Hopefully, nothing drives like a Geep.

 

[Herbie]

Will be interesting to see how they perform.
If there is a noticeable difference you have to laugh pretty hard at Dylan.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

Will be interesting to see how they perform.
If there is a noticeable difference you have to laugh pretty hard at Dylan.

If there's a noticeable difference in the OL play with a new coach & a month of preparation you have to laugh pretty hard at the quarterback who was injured 2 months ago & not involved in the last 3.5 games?

Wanna boil Dylan's rabbit while you're at it?

 

[Quint]

If there's a noticeable difference in the OL play with a new coach & a month of preparation you have to laugh pretty hard at the quarterback who was injured 2 months ago & not involved in the last 3.5 games?

Wanna boil Dylan's rabbit while you're at it?

If there’s a noticeable difference I’ll be pissed at Rhule.

He’s at every practice. I’m assuming he sits through some of the film study for the OL. He’s been on the sideline for every game. If there’s a noticeable improvement in four weeks, he should have done something about it two years ago.

 

[Kinish]

If there’s a noticeable difference I’ll be pissed at Rhule.

He’s at every practice. I’m assuming he sits through some of the film study for the OL. He’s been on the sideline for every game. If there’s a noticeable improvement in four weeks, he should have done something about it two years ago.

it's not even been 3 weeks since he was hired

 

[Herbie]

If there's a noticeable difference in the OL play with a new coach & a month of preparation you have to laugh pretty hard at the quarterback who was injured 2 months ago & not involved in the last 3.5 games?

Wanna boil Dylan's rabbit while you're at it?

Nope. But I’ll laugh at Dylan and his diddy for wanting unc employed

 

[Quint]

it's not even been 3 weeks since he was hired

That’s not helping my piss poor attitude.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

If there’s a noticeable difference I’ll be pissed at Rhule.

He’s at every practice. I’m assuming he sits through some of the film study for the OL. He’s been on the sideline for every game. If there’s a noticeable improvement in four weeks, he should have done something about it two years ago.

If there's a noticeable improvement you'll be mad?

You do you, I'll be happier the better we play, and ecstatic if we got a guy who can make a major positive impact in 3 weeks.

 

[HerbRedman]

This kind of feels like a fan coping mechanism (that I am 100% guilty of). We say players shouldn’t be handed roles just because of hype or money, but then get frustrated when a coach actually holds someone to a standard.

I see the term "cope" used incorrectly a lot. I think the word you're looking for is hypocrisy. Fans showed a lot of hypocrisy with the Donnie/Pritchett situation in that they want their position coaches to be strict and maintain a high standard, but then they get mad at a position coach for doing so. That's hypocritical of the fans to do so.

I think the fans were hypocritical RE: Donnie the entire time he was here TBF.

 

[gtlacey]

At a certain point, if the guys playing absolutely suck and there is someone on the bench that can play better then what “standard” are you really upholding?

As Urban Meyer once said, “I treat my stars like stars and my shit like shit”. I can’t say that TO didn’t have a different viewpoint honestly.

Close, Tom treated his starts like stars and his lower level guys like human beings. The couple back ups I knew that played for TO say he was a really good person.
The couple people I know who have interacted with Ubran Meyer do not say that at all.

 

[Quint]

If there's a noticeable improvement you'll be mad?

You do you, I'll be happier the better we play, and ecstatic if we got a guy who can make a major positive impact in 3 weeks.

I’ll be happy we upgraded, but you won’t be the least little bit pissed off we sat around with our thumbs up our ass for three years and three weeks makes us better?

I’m not sure I understand that.

 

[Milo-of-Croton]

Good coaches make an immediate impact. Geep is an upgrade.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

I’ll be happy we upgraded, but you won’t be the least little bit pissed off we sat around with our thumbs up our ass for three years and three weeks makes us better?

I’m not sure I understand that.

The three week improvement thing is all hypothetical at this point, but seems like you're looking for/making up things to be mad about.

Donnie started with the worst OL in P5, and didn't have enough guys on scholarship coming back the first year to field a full rotation.

Line got incrementally better each year until this year, and we built up a full room with a normal distribution. Ultimately with a regression this year the middling progress was no longer enough, but we were never static.

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

If there's a noticeable difference in the OL play with a new coach & a month of preparation you have to laugh pretty hard at the quarterback who was injured 2 months ago & not involved in the last 3.5 games?

Wanna boil Dylan's rabbit while you're at it?

This circle the wagons shit for a guy that left us hanging in quite confusing but it’s the same people that yell go big red chants at the games so it’s not surprising

 

[BIG TONE SOPRANO]

The three week improvement thing is all hypothetical at this point, but seems like you're looking for/making up things to be mad about.

Donnie started with the worst OL in P5, and didn't have enough guys on scholarship coming back the first year to field a full rotation.

Line got incrementally better each year until this year, and we built up a full room with a normal distribution. Ultimately with a regression this year the middling progress was no longer enough, but we were never static.

Donnie had a line of 4 and almost a 5 star. He’s a terrible coach and possible an even worse personality but it seems to run in the family

 

[PonyBoy]

Knaak seems like a guy destined to breakout under a new coach.

Kinda like Emmett. Looked the part and had the tools, but never got much play, no interviews, few carries. Dana comes in and a few games later he’s the face of the program.

Knaak never had much publicity, never did interviews, didn’t play much meaningful football until injuries forced him into a role. All the sudden Geep comes in and he’s doing interviews every day.

Geep Wade comes in and says “holy fuck, who is this jacked 6’6”, 330lb monster with 4% body fat and the voice of a deranged kidnapper? Why isn’t he playing?”

I’m super high on Knaak and buying his stock now. He’s playing the bowl game with a broken hand.

Often injured and backed up Rocco this season. I'm with you, excited to see what he can do.