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Bo goes on Will Compton's podcast

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I know, he hasn't been our coach in 7 years, he wasn't getting the job done here, he's slightly(?) insane, but he's still a fascinating character in NU history and this is a pretty cool interview between a former player and his coach. Lots of good insights about their time together at NU. Some genuinely cool moments, some frustratingly stubborn opinions, mostly just funny stories going back and forth. You get a sense of why Bo had such a high approval rating among his players in this interview. I'll try to write up some Cliffs later.

 
I know, he hasn't been our coach in 7 years, he wasn't getting the job done here, he's slightly(?) insane, but he's still a fascinating character in NU history and this is a pretty cool interview between a former player and his coach. Lots of good insights about their time together at NU. Some genuinely cool moments, some frustratingly stubborn opinions, mostly just funny stories going back and forth. You get a sense of why Bo had such a high approval rating among his players in this interview. I'll try to write up some Cliffs later.


When you get a glimpse of Bo with his guard down, he seems like a guy who would actually be pretty cool to hang out with or learn from. The stuff he's done with Barstool in the past has been entertaining and shows that he's got a side to him that's at least slightly charismatic, but my god does he also have a whole host of self-destructive character traits.
 
When you get a glimpse of Bo with his guard down, he seems like a guy who would actually be pretty cool to hang out with or learn from. The stuff he's done with Barstool in the past has been entertaining and shows that he's got a side to him that's at least slightly charismatic, but my god does he also have a whole host of self-destructive character traits.

Currently listening. He actually agreed with Will Compton when Will said that he believed some of Bo’s meltdowns cost us games and it’s one of his regrets while he was here.
 
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Honestly just finished listening and it was good heres the cliffs:

Will Compton called Bo out and said he made it so they were playing with their back against the wall with the antics with the media. Will said especially in big games Bo needed more words of encouragement to get the players to go out there and "play to win" and sometimes the yelling forced players to go out there and "play not to lose" and playing that way against good teams was just never going to get Nebraska over the hump that everyone wanted. Bo said he feels kids at Nebraska have soo much pressure to win and his personality sometimes added to that. Bo said he needed to be more understanding of what kids were going through and needed to act like a coach and not a "player out there".

Taylor Lewan who played for Michigan made several comments about how Nebraska was such a weird place to play because fans were nice to them and not giving them the bird. He said because of that it never seemed like we'd have hostile fans when it comes to winning. Bo made the joke, "they were nice to you because they were saving it all for me." (came off very light hearted).

Bo said they weren't always the most talented team, but they had a great culture. Everything that the players did counted. They had the highest team GPA ever when he was there. Compton agreed that "Bo did not fvck around with class." Kids didnt get in trouble, kids went to class, and little things like that helped us be just a little bit better.

Was asked by Taylor if he'd ever end up at Nebraska and Bo laughed and said, "no that will never happen." He said it wasnt because there was a bad breakup, but said the AD and Chancellor at the time drove the media to get on board (after they fired Bo) that it was the right decision and the media would never admit that they were wrong. IMO it was the right decision, but I think he means that no one will Admit that we shouldve been greatful for the 9-win seasons. Will Compton was surprised that TO didnt have more control over the way Eikhorst and everyone involved handled the firing because that wasnt how the culture at Nebraska did things. Bo went on to say the Chancellor at the time didnt treat Tom right and kinda forced him out as AD. Bo says Tom earned the right to pick his successor as AD to safeguard the tradition and that didnt happen (hired Eikhorst). Says because of that hire (Eikhorst) thats the reason for everything bad happening to Nebraska today. Bo says he had almost 0 relationship with Eikhorst. Says at first Eikhorst was supposed to be an interim AD and things happened fast and he said right from the get go he knew he wouldnt be at Nebraska much longer. Says he was very standoff-ish, didnt interact with a lot of people (especially coached).

Bo says he knew things were over when he was 7-0 and worried about his Job security. He said lifes too short to feel that way. Says if he had the records of the football program today they'd probably be burning crosses in his yard with a laugh. Says he loves Tom, but said a lot of the decision makers at the time were jealous of Tom and his power.

Brings up the time he was asked about a PI call on 3rd down his 2nd to last year against Cockeye that helped them win the game and he said, "that was a chicken sh*t call." Boom fined 10k.

Bo said they had a great culture because the core group of coaches and everything really cared about the players. It was easy because they had a group of players that were of high character and high work ethic. Everyone was doing the extra little things. Will said Bo had connections to the teachers and would call out anyone who was sleeping in class or other stuff like that. Will said Bo would constantly preach, "you didnt come here (as players) to dick around just to be on the sidelines, you're either a full time guy or you arent going to be here." Will said Bo had rapport with almost every teacher because, "they couldnt wait to email Bo if someone was slacking off because the teachers knew Bo would take care of it." Bo said hed literally do surprise drop ins in classes. Will said that Bo made the brass rail off limits to players. Bo said he literally walked in to the rail to make sure players werent in there. Said he saw Demario Williams in there and everyone knew the next morning at lifting and were scared sh*tless to go there. Bo said Tim Marlow had a backpack tried to sneak out of class to watch MNF at a Monday night class and caught him and they still laugh about it today.

Bo said bringing the Dobson GPP program in was the best thing they did. Said the team grew tremendously through "shared adversity".

Will said after they got their ass kicked at Michigan his Junior year Bo came in and said everyone should be more like Lavonte David. Bo said all scouts didnt think Lavonte David was big enough and said he warned them that they wont want to play against him. Talked about how he eliminated Kelce in the super bowl and Lavonte lives for the game. Says Glen Dorsey was the next most talented player after Lavonte that he coached.

Bo said he didnt know if he'd every coach college against. Doesnt quite agree with direction things are going with the transfer portal & NIL. Said if he coaches again it would probably be in the NFL. Said he would embrace NIL, but said its going to be impossible to police it.

At one point Bo took twitter away and the players got in back and almost immediately Will got in trouble bc he tweeted the lyrics to Lamborghini Mercy. "Lamborghini Mercy, damn your chick so thirsty, im in that juicy lambo with your girl she tryna jerk me." Bo called Will into the office and asked Will, "what the fvck am I supposed to do with this."

Bo said he thought signing day was stupid. He said for players and schools benefit. Theres schools that offer that they have no intention of signing and kids commit without intentions of signing at that school. He said you should be able to commit and sign whenever and it would slow the recruiting process down again and that what everyone needs.

Bo Talked about especially at a place like nebraska you have to constantly be evaluating kids and reevaluating them. Said 1 year they signed 23 guys from 17 states and the average distance away was just over 1,000 miles. Said that they got Ameer because they were the only ones that wanted him to play RB. Enunwa had 1 other offer and then they beat South Florida for Lavonte.

Bo said Will loved the recruiting process and wanted to be loved and talk on the phone all the time. Said he committed to Nebraska and was going to flip to Illinois or Mizzou, bc guys were jumping ship after Bill Callahan was fired. Said Tom Osborne came to his High School to visit and all the teachers were going crazy at his small school because Tom is a God. Blake Lawrence was his guide for is OV and Bo took Will's mom to church and thats what sealed the deal. Was also over recruiting because he was missing basketball games. Mizzou came and visited the week before signing day and Will said he was going to announce on signing day even though he was committed to Nebraska and Bo asked the staff, "if Will was a douche?" Told his mom hes going to Mizzou or Illinois and his mom cried. Bo called him and asked if he could do one more favor before he committed elsewhere and wanted to fly the entire staff down to his house to watch the NFC championship game and Will said yes and only did it because hes too nice to say no. Talks about how Ekler had a temporary tattoo of Wills name on it. Will said he picked the staff not the school and stuck with Nebraska over Mizzou.

Bo said there was no one at Nebraska that would ever pay a player boosters, coaches, etc.

Asked on crazy recruiting stories. Says he was recruiting a kid in Texas and he walks in and the whole family is there and hes talking to the Mom and Bo heard sex noises behind him and theres a big screen TV and the all the uncles are watching porn together and the mom just said to ignore them.

Talks about his time at the 49ers. Said Jerry Rice had the best work ethic ever out of anyone in the world.

Talks about how Alfonso Dennard gave up a touchdown against Colorado at the end of a game that they were killing them in and it was Lazy. Will said he'd never seen someone so mad. Bo came in the locker room and said, "if you ever do something like that again Ill send your ass back to Georgia." Bo goes on to say it was out of character for Alfonso and he was a great competitor.

That pretty much wraps it up.
 
For those who don't have the time/interest to listen:

-Starts off talking about their dinner together the previous night, Bo says Will pulled the old "I got the check, oh wait..." move.


-2009 Big 12 Championship Game - "It was a crock." Compton asks if he thinks the move to the Big Ten made the Big 12 say "we can't let these motherf*ckers win" and Bo says "without question." He said he heard later on, whether it was true or not, that the replay officials weren't even the ones who actually hit the review button, it was some official from the Big 12.


-"Bo always had the most biblical press conferences" - Compton


-Bo claims that the media didn't like how he took the blame for everything, they wanted him to single out players more often and he refused. "They want you to fill in the blanks for them because they already have their stories written. They want you to point people out, and you know me, I wasn't going to go down that road."


-Compton talks about how much the 90s talk infiltrated the team. "Now the way we won 9-10 games a year, that sounds pretty nice compared to what's going on with Nebraska now. But at the time we were playing, it was always 'you need to bring in people from the 90s culture, you need to figure out how to be Nebraska and bring Nebraska back to the 90s, to the glory days.'"


-Bo on comparing eras - "The whole groundwork has changed. The population has shifted, recruiting is different. Back in the 80s, 90s, maybe even early 2000s only a couple people were on tv every week. You knew Nebraska was gonna be on, Oklahoma, there were gonna be certain teams on tv. Now you gotta compete in recruiting against South Florida, Central Florida, because everyone's on tv. So a kid doesn't have to get on a plane and fly 3 hours to go play on tv, he knows he's gonna play on tv every week. It totally changes the recruiting landscape."


-Bo says the teams who are at the top every year are the teams with the strongest recruiting bases. "The ones who are there every year, they can recruit in a car."


-Coaching through a pandemic was crazy. Bo thought LSU and the SEC managed the pandemic part of it well, but it was trying to make the best of a bad situation. Lots of new players, trying to put in a new defense over Zoom without having access to your guys. "We kind of finished the year pretty good, but it was a whole new team and it just didn't work out. It's as simple as that. I think there's a lot of reasons, but you know me I'm not the kind of guy to make excuses. We didn't get it done, that's the way the business works."


-"Focus on the process, compete everyday" - Compton says that was Bo's favorite quote, and Bo says it's something he's taken with him ever since starting coaching. "Everybody wants things to happen, you gotta want to do the things that make those things happen."


-Bo tries to grill Compton about the quote that he always put at the bottom of his Friday night meeting handouts, Compton can't remember it.

Compton: "Hey I'm on the f*cking spot right now!"

Bo asks genuinely: "I spent a lot of time writing those things! Did you like those? The thought sheets that we did that I talked about every Friday night, like the stories?"

Compton: "You didn't have a lot of thought sheets, Carl would be up there talking to us about some war book that he was reading!"


-Cohost asks Compton what he thinks Bo could've done better at Nebraska

Bo: "Be careful now big boy..."

Compton: "If I can speak candidly, I think when we were in the big moments and Bo would get pissed off... Bo was our leader. Bo's the guy where you knew when he was talking to the media... it felt like our backs were against the nation of Nebraska basically. Like it was us vs. them. You vs. the fans. Bo was like the head of all of it, so any time we had a team meeting when everyone was chirping outside the walls, outside the building, you knew you were gonna go into a team meeting and hear some juice from Bo. He's gonna give us something, he's gonna get our heads right, we're all gonna be good.

And when you get in tough parts of the game, and Bo - from stories I hear, blacks out and doesn't necessarily remember how much he gets after people - but when Bo gets f*ckin pissed off and you feel like shit's hitting the fan, and you feel like you're letting everybody down, I feel like that festers into a young kid's psyche. And then you play more to not mess up, instead of needing somebody that's like 'hey it's all gonna be f*ckin good.'"

Bo: "Don't play to not make a mistake, go play to win, yeah."

Compton: "I feel like a lot of times when I noticed it, watching from afar, was probably the Wisconsin game when you guys were up 17-3 at the time, and Melvin Gordon jumps over Corey Cooper and goes to the endzone, and you see you just goin in. And I'm thinking from my stance, 'these dudes are up 17-10 going into halftime against a team that's always had our number every year, we're in it. There doesn't need to be any red-ass spread around, it's more of a corral thing. That's a moment where I felt like, you remember certain things like that."

Bo: "Oh yeah I agree. I think about that all the time. I always felt like at Nebraska the kids had so much pressure on them, and sometimes obviously my personality added to that maybe. Sometimes you want to win so bad, that all of a sudden... something bad would happen and it was like, it just compounded itself. All of a sudden some certain guys would just totally lose it. We used to sit and talk about that in meetings a lot, part of it was, ok yeah I gotta be better in that situation understanding what these kids are going through."

Compton: "Yeah, you always wanted to be a player out there playing the game."

Bo: "Yeah, too much sometimes."


-Cohost (who played at Michigan) talks about how nice Nebraska fans were when he played in Lincoln. Bo jokes "They were nice to you because they saved all their hostility for me!"


-Cohost: "Do you think there will ever be a time when you end up back at Nebraska?"

Bo: "No, I'll never end up back at Nebraska"

Cohost: "Even if they call and say 'hey we f*cked up"

Bo: "They wouldn't. That would never happen."

Bo goes on to say it was more than just just a bad breakup, the AD and chancellor at the time had gotten the media onboard and the media would never admit to being wrong.


-Compton thought there was a disconnect going from Tom Osborne to Sean Eichorst, and that someone should have told Eichorst not to mess with the culture that had been set up by Osborne and in the football program. Bo says the university didn't treat Osborne well at the end and kind of forced him out.


-Bo: "Tom came back, kind of saved the program when he came back as the AD, and then all of a sudden... Tom would never say this, but Tom earned the right to pick his successor, and to safeguard the tradition and all the things that went on, and that didn't happen. And here we are, they're fighting to get back."


-Bo says he had almost no relationship at all with Eichorst the entire time he was there. "At that point you kinda know, this isn't gonna be a longterm thing... He was just kinda standoffish, that was his style I guess. He didn't interact with a lot of people, especially the coaches. I don't know how much he interacted with the underlings, the assistant ADs, he had a different style."


-Bo: "Especially at a place like Nebraska, it's about relationships. When you don't have relationships, I mean, heck my last year there I think at one point we were 7-0 and I'm answering questions about my job security. I'm like... 'life's too short for this.'"


-"I see some of these coaches and schools, guys win 5 games and they get a contract extension. I said 'heck, they would've been burning crosses in my yard if I won 5 games!'" (genuinely not sure if this is a veiled shot at Frost or not, didn't really seem like it honestly, but sad that it could be)


-Compton asks if Bo was referring to people not liking Tom Osborne, it's hard to imagine anyone in Nebraska not liking Tom Osborne.

Bo: "I don't know how you could not like Tom, I think there were some people there, some people who were decision-makers who were jealous of him. Tom was kind of seen as bringing the program back, bringing tradition back, and people want their credit. For whatever reason, human nature comes in and there's jealousy involved."


-Compton brings up the "If they wanna fire me, they can fire me" press conference. Bo legitimately can't remember the specifics. Compton asks if he remembers which press conference he's talking about and Bo laughs and says "it could've been one of a few!"


-Compton says Bo helped guys because they would get death threats, peoples' families would get trashed. Mentioned Niles Paul's family getting stuff thrown at them after the infamous 09 ISU game. Players always felt that Bo and the coaches had their best interests at heart.

Compton: "You can talk about us not winning certain games for whatever reason, or talk about what we could have done better, everyone knows they could get better at something, but overall everyone has reaped the benefit from all your mantras that we mess around with. Dobson always preached "attitude and effort," Bo's always preaching "focus on the process, compete every day," and as much as we joke about it, I'm not in this chair without all that stuff, and without all those tough teachings."


-Compton says Bo was relentless in keeping tabs on players going to class, and "had a rapport with god damn felt like every single teacher." Bo himself would go around campus checking on classes.


-Compton says when Bo first got there, he "shut down O Street" while trying to rebuild the culture, especially the Brass Rail. Bo heard players were hanging around the Rail too often so he went there himself. "Luckily there were no players there that night, but the people there could not believe I was in there. Demorrio Williams was in there, so I walked in, I saw him, I was in there to see if any players were in there but it kind of gave me an excuse to say hi to Demorrio. Took a look around, saw no one was in there and walked out. By the next morning at lifting, EVERYONE knew that I was in there."


-Funny Twitter stories - Twitter was just catching on at the time, Bo let the team have Twitter but everyone was putting the stupidest things out there for the world to see so he said "No, it's over, you're done." Compton says he was leading the charge for the team to keep Twitter, Bo was allowing them to keep it as long as they weren't talking about the team or making fools out of themselves.

Compton sees a missed call from Bo when he wakes up one morning and has to go into his office - "I'm sweating telling this story" - Bo picks up a sheet of paper that came across his desk in the morning and it's one of Compton's tweets with the quote "Lambourghini mercy/Your chick she's so thirsty/I'm in my two seat Lambo/Your girl she's tryin to jerk me"

Bo reads it off to Compton, looks up and says "What the f*ck am I supposed to do with that?"

Compton tries to explain they're just Jay-Z lyrics and Bo says "Not everybody knows that..."


-Compton's recruitment - Bo gives him shit saying "He LOVED recruiting, oh yeah he decommitted probably 26 times. He loved it, he wanted to be loved, he wanted to talk on the phone all the time. I would hang up the phone with him and I would look at my wife and say 'I hope he goes somewhere else!'"

Bo won over Compton's mom by taking her to church.

Guys would announce their plans to have their lavish announcement ceremonies and Bo would ask around in staff meetings "No offense, pardon my French... but is this guy a douche?"


-One of Bo's craziest recruiting stories was visiting a player in Texas and talking to the player's mom in one room while the player's uncles were in another room watching porn together!? The mom told Bo to just ignore them... Bo doesn't think he continued recruiting the player after the visit.
 
I finished listening to it this afternoon while I worked. I enjoyed it quite a bit actually.

Bo did say a couple of things happened that I either don’t remember or never actually happened. For example, him saying he always took the blame for everything in every press conference. Not sure that was the case.

I do agree with him when he says that the media already has their story written before they ever talk to a coach and they’re just looking for the coach to basically state their opinions back to them. What I disagree with is his treatment of the media. While I hate journalists just as much as the next guy, had he not been so hostile they’d have been on his side and he could have used them as a tool instead of them mobilizing against him. Mike Leach has done this to perfection. That guy will get asked the dumbest question and he’ll say something very similar to what Bo would say but in an extremely sarcastic tone and everyone loves him.

I also disagree that Bo Pelini’s job performance is the pinnacle of what we should expect at Nebraska. I wouldn’t mind having a coach who had the same floor as Bo did, I just don’t want one who’s ceiling and his floor are the exact same level.
 
I finished listening to it this afternoon while I worked. I enjoyed it quite a bit actually.

Bo did say a couple of things happened that I either don’t remember or never actually happened. For example, him saying he always took the blame for everything in every press conference. Not sure that was the case.

I do agree with him when he says that the media already has their story written before they ever talk to a coach and they’re just looking for the coach to basically state their opinions back to them. What I disagree with is his treatment of the media. While I hate journalists just as much as the next guy, had he not been so hostile they’d have been on his side and he could have used them as a tool instead of them mobilizing against him. Mike Leach has done this to perfection. That guy will get asked the dumbest question and he’ll say something very similar to what Bo would say but in an extremely sarcastic tone and everyone loves him.

I also disagree that Bo Pelini’s job performance is the pinnacle of what we should expect at Nebraska. I wouldn’t mind having a coach who had the same floor as Bo did, I just don’t want one who’s ceiling and his floor are the exact same level.
The whole shit storm with the media happened after the OU game during Bo’s first year. He wouldn’t let the media talk to the players and it was on after that with Bo and the OWH.
 
The whole shit storm with the media happened after the OU game during Bo’s first year. He wouldn’t let the media talk to the players and it was on after that with Bo and the OWH.

There were a number of incidents. The one I remember the most is when Sean Fisher got hurt in 2010 and Dirk Chatelain was calling Fisher’s parents to confirm the story before Sean’s parents had even heard that something happened.
 
There were a number of incidents. The one I remember the most is when Sean Fisher got hurt in 2010 and Dirk Chatelain was calling Fisher’s parents to confirm the story before Sean’s parents had even heard that something happened.
I agree, but that was the first shot and the OWH got all butt hurt. They always had an agenda.
 
I agree, but that was the first shot and the OWH got all butt hurt. They always had an agenda.

I vaguely remember a story from that 09/10 time when OWH was so butthurt after Osborne told them that they needed to stop grandstanding or lose a certain number of media passes that they threatened to pull their sponsorship and Osborne just laughed at them. I’d have to ask around to remember. I guess that’s now been 12 years ago. Man I’m getting old.
 
I vaguely remember a story from that 09/10 time when OWH was so butthurt after Osborne told them that they needed to stop grandstanding or lose a certain number of media passes that they threatened to pull their sponsorship and Osborne just laughed at them. I’d have to ask around to remember. I guess that’s now been 12 years ago. Man I’m getting old.
And Dirk had some weird fascination with Bo. He even traveled to Youngstown to try to talk to Bo after he was at the Hall of Fame game.
 
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