Are you out on Rhule?

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One could argue that Aurich is a very risky hire as well..

The data backs the Aurich hire very much.

 

[wildcat_husker]

One could argue that Aurich is a very risky hire as well..

I agree.

 

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Also Frost wouldn't have had Dylan Raiola this year. Which you could argue isn't a bad thing but outside of Mckenzie Milton, Frost hasn't done a great job of picking QBs.

One thing we've learned during this whole B1G vs SEC discussion this bowl season - those teams like MSU, NW, Maryland, even UCLA....they are not the pushovers that every NU fan says they are.

My money is on Fraudst losing to all 4 of those teams.

I think we were something like 4-2 in one score games this year.

Does Frost do that? Or does he lose all 6 of those games and end up 3-9?

 

[Cash68847]

Scott Frost was an absolute trainwreck. Rhule isn't that imo, but the reality he's .500 after 3 years and that's not good enough. I'm losing patience. I don't buy you're building something watching the last 3 games.

What annoyed me the most about yesterday was it felt like we were completely outclassed. The Utah OC was toying with us and our staff had no answer. Felt like Utah was just better at everything. That's something we cannot accept.

I think what they decide to do at the QB position for next year will define his career here. If they miss on that it's over.

I don’t see a huge difference. Rhule got boat raced by a bad Minnesota team and embarrassed at home against Cockeye in year 3 and ended it with a real dud in the bowl game. Okay Rhule made some bowl games, but this year we should have been a 8-9 win team minimum with this schedule if Rhule is a good coach. Next year is set up for a train wreck season.

 

[HerbRedman]

I think we were something like 4-2 in one score games this year.

Does Frost do that? Or does he lose all 6 of those games and end up 3-9?

I know where I'd put my money on that one...😂

The Rhule haters give no credit for the MD-NW-MSU-UCLA wins....yet they are backing the guy who would find incredible ways to lose each of those. Like calling a "Punt-RIGHT"....then punting left and watching the returner walk in for the GW TD.

 

[king_kong_]

I know where I'd put my money on that one...😂

The Rhule haters give no credit for the MD-NW-MSU-UCLA wins....yet they are backing the guy who would find incredible ways to lose each of those. Like calling a "Punt-RIGHT"....then punting left and watching the returner walk in for the GW TD.

Rhule gets the exact amount of credit he deserves for authoring comeback wins against 2 of the 4 worst teams in the league and northwestern, plus beating UCLA.

In fact, he probably got way too much credit for that UCLA win, but it’s one of his best B1G wins in 3 years so it’s all relative

 

[HerbRedman]

I don’t see a huge difference. Rhule got boat raced by a bad Minnesota team and embarrassed at home against Cockeye in year 3 and ended it with a real dud in the bowl game. Okay Rhule made some bowl games, but this year we should have been a 8-9 win team minimum with this schedule if Rhule is a good coach. Next year is set up for a train wreck season.

Frost rarely got blown out. I will give you that. Rhule's last 3 games were blowouts we typically didn't see in the Frost era.

But Rhule was 4-2 in one score games in 2025. And made a bowl game. Also things you didn't see in the Frost era.

 

[HerbRedman]

Rhule gets the exact amount of credit he deserves for authoring comeback wins against 3 of the 4 worst teams in the league and northwestern.

You said Frost would have won those.

 

[Kinish]

The data backs the Aurich hire very much.

Don't get me wrong. I like the Aurich hire.

However. It's still risky.

 

[king_kong_]

You said Frost would have won those.

When?

Quote me.

Also - frost rarely got blown out? Huh?

I agree with @Cash68847 that going 7-6 while beating nobody and looking atrocious is pretty similar to going 3-9.

 

[Ext. 55]

It’s true. Good take here Rav…tough and weird place to be.

Keep crashing out people…love the front row seat 💺

We have to improve in a number of places and ways…still in on Rhule.

 

[HerbRedman]

When?

Quote me.

Also - frost rarely got blown out? Huh?

I agree with @Cash68847 that going 7-6 while beating nobody and looking atrocious is pretty similar to going 3-9.

Hey I was giving Frost credit for generally keeping scores close! Then he would lose them.

I hate that man. I was just trying to be positive. It's 2026 man. Let's revisionist history Frost into being a good coach.

 

[Cash68847]

Frost rarely got blown out. I will give you that. Rhule's last 3 games were blowouts we typically didn't see in the Frost era.

But Rhule was 4-2 in one score games in 2025. And made a bowl game. Also things you didn't see in the Frost era.

We can all see the product is shitty on the field. A couple wins one way or another really don’t matter. I think most people know deep down that Rhule isn’t the guy at this point. Some don’t want to admit they were wrong. Hell I would have been fine with some other coaches before Rhule who also suck now. It doesn’t matter if you were wrong.

 

[slattimer]

but we also lost our starting QB and were forced to completely switch the offensive gameplan because of it.

I dont think the game plans changed much at all btw Raoila and Lateef

 

[Ext. 55]

Agree with all of this. I actually think Rhule has done well to elevate our program to a modern, national borderline elite program (from an organizational standpoint). If you remember when Frost was fired this program was not looked at well from a national perspective. Rhule has elevated it for sure.

Unfortunately he's wrecked the good things he's built with:

1. Bad assistant hires
2. Missing on Jeff Sims
3. Dom/Donnie/Dylan/Dayton mess (not really MR's fault)
4. Rough in-game decisions
5. Bad roster management going into 2025 season

Biggest challenges moving forward:

• Roster is thin going into 2026
• We'll have $$$ for portal but can we win bidding wars? We are a 7-6 program

I'm willing to back Rhule bc I think he's built a good program from an org standpoint. I think he's smart enough to learn from his roster building mistake in 2025. However my big concern is that we miss out on all of the elite portal targets we go after due to our team being "too far away from CFP." I worry that these last 3 games are going to do damage to our portal bidding wars. In this sense, it might have been better to NOT be in the Vegas Bowl bc that was an ugly show (thankfully everyone was watch UM-UT).

In the past, we've needed the Isaiah Worlds and the Walter Rouses to sign here....but we lose out on them bc they want to play for a team that's closer to the CFP. Money doesn't necessarily always talk. NU needs SO MANY players right now. I'm skeptical that we can get enough to turn this roster around in one year.

Well put.

 

[Kinish]

I dont think the game plans changed much at all btw Raoila and Lateef

its like

matt rhule is still the head coach

 

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We can all see the product is shitty on the field. A couple wins one way or another really don’t matter. I think most people know deep down that Rhule isn’t the guy at this point. Some don’t want to admit they were wrong. Hell I would have been fine with some other coaches before Rhule who also suck now. It doesn’t matter if you were wrong.

Idk. I think I’ve got more of an issue with fans being the first to scream for a particular coach to be hired and those same ones being the first to turn on him and be out on him.

It’s pretty much tangible evidence that none of us know what the hell we are talking about.

 

[doublewing]

Unfortunately he's wrecked the good things he's built with:

1. Bad assistant hires
2. Missing on Jeff Sims
3. Dom/Donnie/Dylan/Dayton mess (not really MR's fault)
4. Rough in-game decisions
5. Bad roster management going into 2025 season

Biggest challenges moving forward:

• Roster is thin going into 2026
• We'll have $$$ for portal but can we win bidding wars? We are a 7-6 program

This is an accurate list and good read on the many things wrong with the program.

When a list is this big and there are fundamental flaws like you noted, that is indicative of a bigger problem. It's normal to be flawed in a few of those areas but this many is damning for the HC. Rhule has been here for 3 years and we're worried about our roster in 2026. We have no foundation to our program and 2026 looks like a transitional year under a new coach.

This is ultimately why I'm out on him. I get it that he isn't getting fired going into 2026, but I see no realistic possibility that he solves these issues, either with new hires or portal additions.

 

[Irv]

Might be able to add Joey McGuire to the staff when Cody Campbell throws $100 million at a coach next week.

 

[Cash68847]

Idk. I think I’ve got more of an issue with fans being the first to scream for a particular coach to be hired and those same ones being the first to turn on him and be out on him.

It’s pretty much tangible evidence that none of us know what the hell we are talking about.

At some point we have to pick the right coach don’t we? I’m not looking to be in the playoffs every year, but I would like to see a physical smart team on a weekly basis. I thought Rhule would actually give us something close to that, but he hasn’t.