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[Fargo Husker]

Dave Aranda officially coming back next season.

Baylor says coach Dave Aranda will return in 2025 after fourth straight win clinches bowl berth for Bears

As far as P4 openings go, the only somewhat likely ones would be Ryan Walters and Mack Brown right? Maybe a surprise Brian Kelly or someone thrown in there?

 

[nscottie]

Dave Aranda officially coming back next season.

Baylor says coach Dave Aranda will return in 2025 after fourth straight win clinches bowl berth for Bears

As far as P4 openings go, the only somewhat likely ones would be Ryan Walters and Mack Brown right? Maybe a surprise Brian Kelly or someone thrown in there?

You have to wonder how much longer Kelly lasts at LSU. That player yelling at him on sidelines yesterday is getting attention. Could be just one player upset or could be a bigger issue of him losing the team. Time will tell.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

Tony White to Rice

 

[herbie tarlek]

Rhule fails. Traditionalists hold a golf tournament and raise money to port over the entire Army coaching staff.

Team proceeds to go 3-9 for seven straight seasons, while fans credit close losses and the importance of patience.

Eventually, RTDB guy realizes he got monkey pawed and what he thought was heaven was in fact hell.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing us he didn't exist and that he wasn't Jeff Monken.

Actually, I think the whole Army staff is better than what we roll out there. We are one of the worst coached teams in the country. But hey, we will continue to think we have to pay the highest amount possible for a staff to think we are still big time, instead of finding just solid coaches that don't need big names and we don't need a 5 star QB that is a horrible athlete.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

Actually, I think the whole Army staff is better than what we roll out there. We are one of the worst coached teams in the country. But hey, we will continue to think we have to pay the highest amount possible for a staff to think we are still big time, instead of finding just solid coaches that don't need big names and we don't need a 5 star QB that is a horrible athlete.

Part of why I'm hoping Rhule flips the staff and brings in 8 to 10 transfers that have proven themselves even if at the lower level.

 

[herbie tarlek]

Part of why I'm hoping Rhule flips the staff and brings in 8 to 10 transfers that have proven themselves even if at the lower level.

I hope so, but we think we need to pay our coaches and players insane amounts of money for what? We are one of the worst returns on investment in sports and its not close.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

I hope so, but we think we need to pay our coaches and players insane amounts of money for what? We are one of the worst returns on investment in sports and its not close.

I don't care what we pay them honestly, I just want results. So far we've seen multiple coaches come in and completely flip losing programs by gutting the roster and starting from scratch. Rhule went against the grain and so far it looks like the wrong choice.

 

[ChocaEgg]

Part of why I'm hoping Rhule flips the staff and brings in 8 to 10 transfers that have proven themselves even if at the lower level.

Don't think that is realistic

 

[herbie tarlek]

We need to find a coach who has a proven track record at lower levels and knows how to build a team around talent they have, a guy like the old South Dakota State Coach (Stiegelmeier) who retired, I wish we could have gotten him or someone like that guy who has forgotten more about football than the stooges we have hired the past 20 years without becoming a get rich quick scheme for the idiots we have hired.

 

[Fargo Husker]

I’m curious what happens with a guy like Gundy. Obviously he’s a legend there, but he’s looking at a potential winless season in conference.

I also wonder how many years Whittingham has left in him.

 

[...TrueColors...]

We need to find a coach who has a proven track record at lower levels and knows how to build a team around talent they have, a guy like the old South Dakota State Coach (Stiegelmeier) who retired, I wish we could have gotten him or someone like that guy who has forgotten more about football than the stooges we have hired the past 20 years without becoming a get rich quick scheme for the idiots we have hired.

Come on dude

 

[dom91932]

Temple fires coach Drayton day after OT victory

Temple has fired coach Stan Drayton, ending his tenure with a 9-25 record in two-plus seasons. The move comes a day after an overtime win over Florida Atlantic.

www.espn.com

 

[dom91932]

UMass fires head coach Brown after 6-28 stint

UMass has fired coach Don Brown, ending his second stint leading the program and the third overall, with two games to play this season.

www.espn.com

 

[Tonkasker]

As far as P4 openings go, the only somewhat likely ones would be Ryan Walters and Mack Brown right? Maybe a surprise Brian Kelly or someone thrown in there?

Mack is probably retiring
Walters is definitely gone

Probable:
Arkansas

Possible, not probable:
Gundy retires
Stoops retires
NC State opens
Wake Forest Opens
UCF opens

Low likelihood, not impossible:
Maryland opens
Ferentz retires
Auburn opens

 

[Seaofred92]

 

[Irv]

Both coaches in last weekend's FAU-Temple game have been fired. That can't happen very often.

 

[herbsinator]

I hope so, but we think we need to pay our coaches and players insane amounts of money for what? We are one of the worst returns on investment in sports and its not close.

Is it your money that they’re spending? Would be less pissed off if we’re missing bowls but only paying our coach $2m?

 

[nscottie]

Headed to Wisconsin?

 

[dom91932]

Both coaches in last weekend's FAU-Temple game have been fired. That can't happen very often.

Temple’s firing of Stan Drayton should open the door to dropping the football program | Marcus Hayes

The program has seldom been able to perpetuate competence, much less success — to compete for recruits against schools whose football programs run those schools is absurd.

www.inquirer.com

Temple’s firing of Stan Drayton should open the door to dropping the football program​

The program has seldom been able to perpetuate competence, much less success — to compete for recruits against schools whose football programs run those schools is absurd.

by Marcus Hayes | Columnist

It says something about your football program when you fire the head coach after a win.

It says the program probably needs to go away.

Temple beat Florida Atlantic on Saturday by a field goal in overtime, an unsurprisingly ugly affair between a pair of two-win teams on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. About 18 hours later, the school’s athletic director, Arthur Johnson, a former associate AD at Texas, announced that his handpicked coach, Stan Drayton, Texas’ former associate head football coach, was fired.

This is the only way Drayton’s tenure would ever end. Asking an outsider with paltry ties to the Northeast to recruit to a crippled program with no local support whose closest conference foe, East Carolina, is more than 400 miles and four states away — it was foolish to think it would work.

Which again brings into focus the existential questions regarding football at Temple:
Why does it even exist? Should it continue to exist? The failure of this latest attempt at the program’s salvation should provide the obvious answer:

No.

The continued death throes of the program must be having an influence on Temple president John Fry, who was president at Drexel until this past July. In a 2016 op-ed in The Wall Street Journal, Fry celebrated that institution dropping football five decades earlier rather than engaging in “spending binges that sap resources.” Fry now has a chance to lead a football purge, because, like most football programs, Temple football loses money. Will he take it?

This feels a little like punching down, and it feels a little mean-spirited, because so many good people have, for so long, tried to make this a good program. Lots of people behind the scenes have committed decades to the cause. But Temple hasn’t sniffed a bowl game since before COVID. Most of the program’s best players either wind up at Temple by accident or they wind up getting good at Temple by accident. Temple has had two NFL first-round picks in the last 37 years. Try selling that to Johnny High School All-American.

The program has seldom been able to perpetuate competence, much less success. Which makes it all the more incredible that, as part of his farewell statement regarding Drayton, Johnson said:

“With the changing landscape of college football and the playoff format, the opportunity for Temple football has never been greater.”

That, simply, is untrue.

This statement is true for programs with robust alumni support, deep pockets of NIL money, first-class facilities, hardy and invested student bodies, and strong recruiting bases. Temple has none of those; in fact, its student body has shrunk by almost 10,000 students since 2019 (though it got an enrollment boost this fall).

Even when it was fit to bursting, with around 40,000 students, it never had any of the perks of more competitive programs. That’s why, before Rod Carey replaced Geoff Collins in 2019, Collins and his three predecessors at Temple all left for far greener pastures.

None of them had to deal with NIL pressures or the transfer portal that are chasing coaching legends from all sports into retirement. To ask any coach of any sport in Philadelphia — a pro town with a cute little Main Line college basketball team — to thrive is just unrealistic.

Asking a football program on life support to compete for recruits against schools whose football programs run those schools is absurd. Al Golden, Steve Addazio, Matt Rhule, and Collins wouldn’t have done what they did at Temple if they coached in today’s college football environment. Hell, Nick Saban and Bill Belichick couldn’t have succeeded at Temple today.

To expect success from a guy like Stan Drayton, or, frankly, from anyone else, is just too much to ask.

 

[Fargo Husker]

Stay in state and go to FSU?