Is College Football Broken?

[CornFed Gregger]

Parity 🤣 They’re pissing on you and calling it rain. Just cause more teams are in the playoffs (which is good) doesn’t mean there are more teams capable of winning a NC. Actually less in my opinion.

Yea there isn’t parity. In the last 25 years, Auburn is the one team I’d say was somewhat of a Cinderella upset & they did it on the back of a freak.

Oregon has been spending money for 2 decades & they can’t overcome the gap between the big boys, closest they came was against FSU. Indiana I believe is going to start learning tonight that there is a gap with programs like tOSU.

MLB has a huge disparity in money but teams can still win a WS if they get hot & beat the big boys. College basketball has done the same against all of the under the table schemes. Football is not a sport that is able to do that regularly. Lucky to upset a big dawg one time in ten

 

[V-Doub]

Yea, I'm assuming Nebraska is overpaying like a motherfucker.

I don’t have a lot of numbers to back it up, but I’m pretty certain of it. I don’t think very many, if any, schools would be paying Raiola 3 million. But we’re in the same boat as most CFB teams. Luckily we have the means to over pay, a lot of schools don’t. But ultimately only about 15ish teams nationally can boast a high percentage of putting players in the league.

 

[SlumpBuster]

All was easily (and immediately) predicted as soon as the NIL fanboys started denying the slippery slope were are now rocketing down.

Did anyone deny this? I've never seen anyone

 

[BeerConsumer67]

I don’t have a lot of numbers to back it up, but I’m pretty certain of it. I don’t think very many, if any, schools would be paying Raiola 3 million. But we’re in the same boat as most CFB teams. Luckily we have the means to over pay, a lot of schools don’t. But ultimately only about 15ish teams nationally can boast a high percentage of putting players in the league.

From what I've read, Campbell was pretty good at getting people to take discounts for him. That with the PSU brand could be pretty lethal.

 

[SlumpBuster]

Yes. And it sucks right now.

NCAA is a bunch of cowards, caved to the pressure, and now kids can transfer as much as they want for money.

Caved to pressure? You mean an order from a court/government?

 

[Cash68847]

Bro lmfao Vandy wins one game with a Heisman finalist qb as Tennessee had its qb dip out mid-spring and you think Vandy is a better program. Laughable.

Hey Brah Vandy has a lot or rich people willing to spend money. There is a reason their coach didn’t bolt.

 

[Cash68847]

SMU will never win a NC. They have private money, but they’ll never be able to keep a HC and they’ll always have over pay for top talent. Most kids believe the B1G and SEC are the best path to the NFL and the biggest pool of high dollar NIL contracts. Not to mention they’re already behind the 8 ball money wise because of their shitty TV contract. SMU… never ever gonna win a NC. Period.

TT… maybe. They actually have more private money than SMU, so I’ve been told. Never actually tried to check that out myself. Also anchored with a shitty TV deal and poor reputation for putting players in the NFL. But I think maybe TT could. Not gonna pick’em this year, no way. But I like that they can play some defense and stop the run. Can they stop the run against teams like Georgia, Notre Dame, aTm? Probably no IMO. Good thing is we will likely get to see this play out and then we’ll know.

Texas Tech has a billionaire booster who played football who isn’t going to slow down.

 

[ShortSideOption]

Caved to pressure? You mean an order from a court/government?

What order are you referencing, because you have me confused?

 

[V-Doub]

Hey Brah Vandy has a lot or rich people willing to spend money. There is a reason their coach didn’t bolt.

Vandy has more money than a lot of your bigger name SEC schools. 3rd largest endowment in the SEC (behind only Texas and aTm) and they have a lot of wealthy boosters.

 

[V-Doub]

From what I've read, Campbell was pretty good at getting people to take discounts for him. That with the PSU brand could be pretty lethal.

Eh, maybe. I don’t really see it, but NIL/portal era is changing the rules all time. Historically, mostly an 8-4 coach at “lesser” program is an 8-4 coach (or worse) at place with more support. A lot of times a 10-2 coach at a “lesser” program ends up being and 8-4 coach at the big boy level. (B1G/SEC basically)

 

[Cash68847]

Vandy has more money than a lot of your bigger name SEC schools. 3rd largest endowment in the SEC (behind only Texas and aTm) and they have a lot of wealthy boosters.

I’ll never argue against the two super conferences having a big advantage, but there are teams who were after thoughts who can do damage now due to their alumni being able to legally fund teams. NIL helped the BIG as much as any conference since paying players is now legal.

 

[BeerConsumer67]

Eh, maybe. I don’t really see it, but NIL/portal era is changing the rules all time. Historically, mostly an 8-4 coach at “lesser” program is an 8-4 coach (or worse) at place with more support. A lot of times a 10-2 coach at a “lesser” program ends up being and 8-4 coach at the big boy level. (B1G/SEC basically)

True, im personally a hire a coordinator guy.

 

[SlumpBuster]

What order are you referencing, because you have me confused?

A judge overruled the NCAA restricting transfers (a few times). I'm not a fan of the NCAA, but the transfers and NIL stuff is court ordered, they couldn't stop it if they tried.

Here's the most recent:

Ruling favors NCAA athletes seeking 2nd transfer

College athletes who were denied the chance to play immediately after transferring a second time can return to competition after a judge issued a restraining order against the NCAA.

www.espn.com

 

[SlumpBuster]

From what I've read, Campbell was pretty good at getting people to take discounts for him. That with the PSU brand could be pretty lethal.

Doesn't mean he'll get discounts at PSU...he could sell he had to get a discount at ISU but PSU has enough money nobody's going to buy it.

 

[V-Doub]

I’ll never argue against the two super conferences will have a big advantage, but there are teams who were after thoughts who can do damage now due to their alumni being able to legally fund teams. NIL helped the BIG as much as any conference since paying players is now legal.

NIL has help the B1G and SEC a TON. But that’s not parity across CFB. It’s almost the exact opposite.

 

[Cash68847]

NIL has help the B1G and SEC a TON. But that’s not parity across CFB. It’s almost the exact opposite.

The point is there is more parity today than there was before NIL. I never said it extended into the lower conferences outside a few teams which will need a ton of money to compete. The point still stands more teams have a chance to win a natty today than before NIL because of there being scholarship limits, transfer rules, and NIL funding. It’s pretty easy to see teams like Bama and Georgia don’t have the depth they use to because their good 2nd teamers can make more money at other places.

 

[V-Doub]

The point is there is more parity today than there was before NIL. I never said it extended into the lower conferences outside a few teams which will need a ton of money to compete. The point still stands more teams have a chance to win a natty today than before NIL because of there being scholarship limits, transfer rules, and NIL funding. It’s pretty easy to see teams like Bama and Georgia don’t have the depth they use to because their good 2nd teamers can make more money at other places.

I don’t agree, but that’s fine. I agree that Nebraska has a better chance at being successful than we did before NIL/portal. But that’s not parity.

 

[ShortSideOption]

A judge overruled the NCAA restricting transfers (a few times). I'm not a fan of the NCAA, but the transfers and NIL stuff is court ordered, they couldn't stop it if they tried.

Here's the most recent:

Ruling favors NCAA athletes seeking 2nd transfer

College athletes who were denied the chance to play immediately after transferring a second time can return to competition after a judge issued a restraining order against the NCAA.

www.espn.com

That’s from 2023. NIL started in 2021.

 

[SlumpBuster]

That’s from 2023. NIL started in 2021.

And it's not about NIL, it's about transfers and I said it wasn't the only case. But judges have ruled on NIL too, starting with Alston:

National Collegiate Athletic Association v. Alston - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ShortSideOption]

And it's not about NIL, it's about transfers and I said it wasn't the only case. But judges have ruled on NIL too, starting with Alston:

National Collegiate Athletic Association v. Alston - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I referenced NIL is why the NCAA is cowards