Offense vs. P4
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Offense vs. P4
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cfbstats.com had this. Again, good idea. Here’s our average and the national rank only factoring in P4 competition in parenthesis.
PPG: 28.3 (34th) 29th among 68 P4 teams
YPG: 322 (75th) 51st among 68 P4 teams
YPPoint: 11.35 (N/A)
YPPlay: 4.71 (87th) 61st among 68 P4 teams
Although national ranks are better when only taking into account p4 competition for everyone, the averages when compared to other p4 teams is well below expectation.
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But it’s not accurate or truely representative of anything. You’re taking out our 2 best statistical games. Then ranking us against all 121 programs (there’s actually only 67 P4 teams) and not taking away 2 games worth of statistics.
It’s a ridiculously stupid exercise that tell us absolutely nothing. Now… if you take the 67 actual P4 teams, (B1G, SEC, BigXII and ACC) take away their 2 most inferior non-P4 game statistics, then rank all 67 team statistically without their 2 most inferior opponents it might tell you a little something.
What you did was handicap one team and then compare them to every team, not just other P4 teams, but then you didn’t handicap any other team in the statistical rankings. Every team is gonna look A LOT worse when you take away their stats against their 2 most inferior opponents then compare them to teams that get to use their stats from their 2 most inferior opponents. (Plus you included non-P4 teams as well who have skewed stats because they play mostly other non-P4 teams)
If you can’t see why what you did is infinitely retarded and complete waste of time I don’t know what more I can say.
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Still doesn’t mean jack diddly shit if you don’t remove the 2 most inferior opponents non-P4 opponents from the other 68 P4 teams. You’re comparing 4 games of statistics with one team against 67 other teams that have 6 games of statistics. And you arbitrarily decided which 2 games to subtract from team A in your fraudulent exercise.
Still means less than nothing. But nice try, again…
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Hope we keep this improvement up from last years 21.1 55th out of 68 last year. And 15.3 63rd in 2023. Making me feel better about the offense.
Great website for team stats btw.
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If you take out our 4 lowest rated opponents, we haven't won a game all year.
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I’ve seen heavy criticism for Donny and the OL, but but before this post hardly any criticism of the offense or Holgo despite what the stats show are pretty bad numbers relative to like competition. It’s early, we’re only 30% of the way through our P4 games, but Holgo needs to prove something in these next two weeks .
On the other hand, Butler’s defense gets second guessed regularly. Against P4 competition defense is outperforming offense.
PPG allowed: 24.7(43rd) 30th out of 68 P4 teams
YPG allowed: 301 (15th) 12th out of 68 P4 teams
YPP allowed: 5.04 (26th) 18th out of 68 P4 teams
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Those rankings only include games against P4 competition.
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vs power5
Scoring offense- 34
YPG - 75th
YPPlay - 87th
all
PPG: 28.3 (56th)
YPG: 322 (112th
YPPoint: 11.35 (11th)
YPPlay: 4.71 (118th)
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"Like competition" is always difficult in college football. Big 12 and ACC numbers will probably get better as the season goes along and SEC and B1G numbers will probably get worse.
I was a Nebraska fan in 2023. Those were bad offensive numbers. I wouldn't say I'm thrilled with the progress but I'm not mad either. 15 - 21 - 28 is a good trend if we can keep it at 28.
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PPG we're one spot behind offense but its a decline from the last couple of years. 2024 we were 17th at 22.1 ppg. 2023 we were 9th at 19.4.
Big picture:
2025 - 28.3
Allowed 24.7
2024 - 21.1
Allowed 22.1
2023 - 15.3
Allowed 19.4
Allowing a FG more per game each year but scoring a TD more per game.
Translates to more wins.
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So yore saying TW > JoBu?
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No it did NOT. That’s the ranking of all D1 teams. Not just the 68 P4 teams.
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Ask me again at the end of the year. If you have the turnover we did on the dline and keep the ppg within a FG I'd say Jobu > T White.
That number could turn into double digits by the end of the year.
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All I cant tell you is that third party services still think we're doing pretty well.
The Kford predicative rankings come out later this even, but FPI today is predicting 8.6-3.4. Teamrankings.com is predicting 9.1-2.9.
9-3 is, I think, pretty much the median in the fanbase.
The game yesterday was very frustrating for a stretch but it turned out in the end to be a fairly easy win.
If someone told you before the game we'd be up 17 with 5 minutes left....
The Kford predicative rankings come out later this even, but FPI today is predicting 8.6-3.4. Teamrankings.com is predicting 9.1-2.9.
9-3 is, I think, pretty much the median in the fanbase.
The game yesterday was very frustrating for a stretch but it turned out in the end to be a fairly easy win.
If someone told you before the game we'd be up 17 with 5 minutes left....
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Yes, because non group of 5 teams play power 4 teams. But the other ranking I put to the right of the parenthesis only factors in p4 teams. That’s why it says “30th of 68 p4 teams”
For instance, how Akron did against Nebraska factors into those stats, but how Nebraska did against Akron does not.
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The 1st half was just a wild half though. The offense had 1 possession with the wind and was off the field for 30 minutes.
They actually had 200+ yards in the 2nd half alone. I don’t think the offense was that bad.
The only complaint I had was after that great punt return they didn’t try to run the ball on 2nd down.
