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Dissolution of marriage advice

Help me understand what that means. I’m interested.
There's a lot. I'll try not to write a novel.

Basically my mom wanted to retire at 40. My grandma was a school teacher for a long time, and was able to do so. Think it had more to do with grandpa's military benefits than her actually being able to retire at 40, but yeah. My mom wanted to retire at 40, my dad was firmly against it. That created a thorny issue that just kinda tore them apart for some years. Any time they fought about anything, it was also kind of collateral from that issue, because the things they fought about were stupid. Lots of cussing from my mom, just ripped into my dad whenever they fought.

The way my dad always handled it, was to basically just sit there quietly and just take it, whatever she would say. I grew up with my dad, so that's how I learned to handle things for a long time as well. Still do from time to time, but that's a different conversation.

My mom ended up getting two DUI's before they split, before I turned about 10. I had to go with when my dad picked her up cause I couldn't stay home alone yet in the middle of the night. Cant' really say for sure what ended up being the final straw, I just remember my mom sitting me at the bottom of our staircase at about 10 and giving me the "I have to move out, but I'll always be there for you" speech. Well, she wasn't. Due to driver's license issues, and being single, and probably still hitting the bars, I would see her every couple of weeks and I'd be picked up and dropped off in different guys' cars. That went on only a couple years until I was obviously able to drive myself around.

My mom's personality makes it hard to be around her. She's super touchy and gets emotional as it gets later in the day. There's a running joke in my family that you can't talk to her on the phone after 5 because the wine will be hitting too hard. Unfortunate. Her personality makes it really tough on the relationship with her and my wife as well. It's pretty much nonexistent.

A core memory I have is during one of my mom's attempts at a custody battle, there were a few nights back when house wall phones were a thing, where she would just call and call and call and call and argue with my dad about visitations and he would hang up on her and would eventually just unhook the phone from the wall. Looking back, not a giant thing, but it was tough to deal with as a kid, admittedly.

Another one is my friend when I was a kid, we wanted to have a sleepover at my house. One of the rare times my dad was actually okay with it, my mom said no. She looked me dead in the eyes when I asked her why and said "because your dad said yes". Just stupid, but they were petty at the end.


Eventually, I grow up, can make own decisions and plans, and just grew really far apart from her. She'd show up to things from time to time but the damage was already well done. She got re-married up until getting divorced again 2 years ago. He was a shit bag who I had zero respect for. We just had zero in common and I was never going to be a fan of the relationship or him. He's lone gone now.


They both sat in the front row, on opposite ends, of my wedding, and could be audibly heard arguing during the ceremony while the preacher was talking. No idea what they said, I could only kinda hear it, but my friends told me about it later. Don't know what was said, but they said lots of arguing.


She has a new guy now that she's slowly attempting to tip toe into life, but it's just not gonna fly with anyone. People ask me my thoughts and I'm just like 3rd guy in my 32 years, no chance.


She's tried over the years to be a mom, but anyone who asks me and I say the same thing, it's essentially just short of being an estranged relationship. I've said this to my mother in law but my mother in law is more of a mom to me than my own mom is.


Sorry, longer than I planned.


Every situation is different, but obviously the reasons for the divorce and the actions of the parents determine the relationship with the kids.
 
There's a lot. I'll try not to write a novel.

Basically my mom wanted to retire at 40. My grandma was a school teacher for a long time, and was able to do so. Think it had more to do with grandpa's military benefits than her actually being able to retire at 40, but yeah. My mom wanted to retire at 40, my dad was firmly against it. That created a thorny issue that just kinda tore them apart for some years. Any time they fought about anything, it was also kind of collateral from that issue, because the things they fought about were stupid. Lots of cussing from my mom, just ripped into my dad whenever they fought.

The way my dad always handled it, was to basically just sit there quietly and just take it, whatever she would say. I grew up with my dad, so that's how I learned to handle things for a long time as well. Still do from time to time, but that's a different conversation.

My mom ended up getting two DUI's before they split, before I turned about 10. I had to go with when my dad picked her up cause I couldn't stay home alone yet in the middle of the night. Cant' really say for sure what ended up being the final straw, I just remember my mom sitting me at the bottom of our staircase at about 10 and giving me the "I have to move out, but I'll always be there for you" speech. Well, she wasn't. Due to driver's license issues, and being single, and probably still hitting the bars, I would see her every couple of weeks and I'd be picked up and dropped off in different guys' cars. That went on only a couple years until I was obviously able to drive myself around.

My mom's personality makes it hard to be around her. She's super touchy and gets emotional as it gets later in the day. There's a running joke in my family that you can't talk to her on the phone after 5 because the wine will be hitting too hard. Unfortunate. Her personality makes it really tough on the relationship with her and my wife as well. It's pretty much nonexistent.

A core memory I have is during one of my mom's attempts at a custody battle, there were a few nights back when house wall phones were a thing, where she would just call and call and call and call and argue with my dad about visitations and he would hang up on her and would eventually just unhook the phone from the wall. Looking back, not a giant thing, but it was tough to deal with as a kid, admittedly.

Another one is my friend when I was a kid, we wanted to have a sleepover at my house. One of the rare times my dad was actually okay with it, my mom said no. She looked me dead in the eyes when I asked her why and said "because your dad said yes". Just stupid, but they were petty at the end.


Eventually, I grow up, can make own decisions and plans, and just grew really far apart from her. She'd show up to things from time to time but the damage was already well done. She got re-married up until getting divorced again 2 years ago. He was a shit bag who I had zero respect for. We just had zero in common and I was never going to be a fan of the relationship or him. He's lone gone now.


They both sat in the front row, on opposite ends, of my wedding, and could be audibly heard arguing during the ceremony while the preacher was talking. No idea what they said, I could only kinda hear it, but my friends told me about it later. Don't know what was said, but they said lots of arguing.


She has a new guy now that she's slowly attempting to tip toe into life, but it's just not gonna fly with anyone. People ask me my thoughts and I'm just like 3rd guy in my 32 years, no chance.


She's tried over the years to be a mom, but anyone who asks me and I say the same thing, it's essentially just short of being an estranged relationship. I've said this to my mother in law but my mother in law is more of a mom to me than my own mom is.


Sorry, longer than I planned.


Every situation is different, but obviously the reasons for the divorce and the actions of the parents determine the relationship with the kids.
Man that’s a lot. More than a child young or adult should have to deal with. Sorry to hear all of that. Thankfully you’ve got a good wife and support.
 
There's a lot. I'll try not to write a novel.

Basically my mom wanted to retire at 40. My grandma was a school teacher for a long time, and was able to do so. Think it had more to do with grandpa's military benefits than her actually being able to retire at 40, but yeah. My mom wanted to retire at 40, my dad was firmly against it. That created a thorny issue that just kinda tore them apart for some years. Any time they fought about anything, it was also kind of collateral from that issue, because the things they fought about were stupid. Lots of cussing from my mom, just ripped into my dad whenever they fought.

The way my dad always handled it, was to basically just sit there quietly and just take it, whatever she would say. I grew up with my dad, so that's how I learned to handle things for a long time as well. Still do from time to time, but that's a different conversation.

My mom ended up getting two DUI's before they split, before I turned about 10. I had to go with when my dad picked her up cause I couldn't stay home alone yet in the middle of the night. Cant' really say for sure what ended up being the final straw, I just remember my mom sitting me at the bottom of our staircase at about 10 and giving me the "I have to move out, but I'll always be there for you" speech. Well, she wasn't. Due to driver's license issues, and being single, and probably still hitting the bars, I would see her every couple of weeks and I'd be picked up and dropped off in different guys' cars. That went on only a couple years until I was obviously able to drive myself around.

My mom's personality makes it hard to be around her. She's super touchy and gets emotional as it gets later in the day. There's a running joke in my family that you can't talk to her on the phone after 5 because the wine will be hitting too hard. Unfortunate. Her personality makes it really tough on the relationship with her and my wife as well. It's pretty much nonexistent.

A core memory I have is during one of my mom's attempts at a custody battle, there were a few nights back when house wall phones were a thing, where she would just call and call and call and call and argue with my dad about visitations and he would hang up on her and would eventually just unhook the phone from the wall. Looking back, not a giant thing, but it was tough to deal with as a kid, admittedly.

Another one is my friend when I was a kid, we wanted to have a sleepover at my house. One of the rare times my dad was actually okay with it, my mom said no. She looked me dead in the eyes when I asked her why and said "because your dad said yes". Just stupid, but they were petty at the end.


Eventually, I grow up, can make own decisions and plans, and just grew really far apart from her. She'd show up to things from time to time but the damage was already well done. She got re-married up until getting divorced again 2 years ago. He was a shit bag who I had zero respect for. We just had zero in common and I was never going to be a fan of the relationship or him. He's lone gone now.


They both sat in the front row, on opposite ends, of my wedding, and could be audibly heard arguing during the ceremony while the preacher was talking. No idea what they said, I could only kinda hear it, but my friends told me about it later. Don't know what was said, but they said lots of arguing.


She has a new guy now that she's slowly attempting to tip toe into life, but it's just not gonna fly with anyone. People ask me my thoughts and I'm just like 3rd guy in my 32 years, no chance.


She's tried over the years to be a mom, but anyone who asks me and I say the same thing, it's essentially just short of being an estranged relationship. I've said this to my mother in law but my mother in law is more of a mom to me than my own mom is.


Sorry, longer than I planned.


Every situation is different, but obviously the reasons for the divorce and the actions of the parents determine the relationship with the kids.
So since you have mom issues does that mean you became a stripper and only bang older, rich women?
 
Question:

For those of you that have been through it or know someone that has, is infidelity factored into judge’s decisions at all when settling alimony or more importantly, child custody?
 
Question:

For those of you that have been through it or know someone that has, is infidelity factored into judge’s decisions at all when settling alimony or more importantly, child custody?
Nebraska is a no-fault divorce state. The only way infidelity will be factored in is if your children were exposed to it. And even then most judges aren't going to care, unless they were exposed to it in a really bad way.
 
Question:

For those of you that have been through it or know someone that has, is infidelity factored into judge’s decisions at all when settling alimony or more importantly, child custody?
Not an expert but from what I have heard, child custody is almost always based on what the judge believes is in the child's best interest. Infidelity is usually irrelevant, unless it can be demonstrated that the infidelity adversely affects the child.

On alimony, most states are no-fault and infidelity would be irrelevant there too. But there are several states that would reduce or deny alimony if infidelity can be proven. Nebraska is not one of those states unfortunately, if you live here.
 
Nebraska is a no-fault divorce state. The only way infidelity will be factored in is if your children were exposed to it. And even then most judges aren't going to care, unless they were exposed to it in a really bad way.

Not an expert but from what I have heard, child custody is almost always based on what the judge believes is in the child's best interest. Infidelity is usually irrelevant, unless it can be demonstrated that the infidelity adversely affects the child.

On alimony, most states are no-fault and infidelity would be irrelevant there too. But there are several states that would reduce or deny alimony if infidelity can be proven. Nebraska is not one of those states unfortunately, if you live here.
I don’t have proof she currently is or recently was. Guess I’m just getting bad vibes.
 
Question:

For those of you that have been through it or know someone that has, is infidelity factored into judge’s decisions at all when settling alimony or more importantly, child custody?

Unfortunately, the answer is no. I get why they do no-fault divorce. It'd be crazy hiring PI's to try to get the dirt on your spouse so that you wouldn't have to split things 50/50.

The one piece of advice I'll give you now is that if it won't hurt your children, if you have a joint account, start withdrawing small amounts of cash each week ($100-$200) from the ATM and give it to someone that you trust to hold on for you. It'll help lessen the assets that have to be split and give you a little nest egg for after.
 
My buddy just got divorced a couple months ago here in Florida - no kids involved. She withdrew a bunch of cash from their account that she claimed was hers before filing, and he took part of it and bought a new F-250 on his lawyers advice - not sure what the reasoning was for that or how it factored in. He had a much better lawyer but still ended up owing 6 figures. Although from what the starting point was to where it ended up, his expensive lawyer seemed to be well worth it. Went from something like her lawyer trying to get 400K, to him paying like a quarter of that one time and being done outright. She was the one that had another relationship - with her boss no less. Did not play a factor in at all because Florida is no fault and it never went to a judge - just arbitration.
 
Unfortunately, the answer is no. I get why they do no-fault divorce. It'd be crazy hiring PI's to try to get the dirt on your spouse so that you wouldn't have to split things 50/50.

The one piece of advice I'll give you now is that if it won't hurt your children, if you have a joint account, start withdrawing small amounts of cash each week ($100-$200) from the ATM and give it to someone that you trust to hold on for you. It'll help lessen the assets that have to be split and give you a little nest egg for after.
Good advice but we don’t have any joint accounts.
 
Good advice but we don’t have any joint accounts.
@jaihawk why would it matter whether it's a joint account? All accounts between a husband and wife are marital property and would be split ~50/50 in the event of divorce. So if this strategy works on joint accounts, it would work on his own personal (non-joint) account too, right?
 
@jaihawk why would it matter whether it's a joint account? All accounts between a husband and wife are marital property and would be split ~50/50 in the event of divorce. So if this strategy works on joint accounts, it would work on his own personal (non-joint) account too, right?
Any property obtained during the marriage up to the point of separation (someone moves out or a Complaint for Dissolution is filed) is marital

Unless its a gift or inheritance and its not commingled
 
Any property obtained during the marriage up to the point of separation (someone moves out or a Complaint for Dissolution is filed) is marital

Unless its a gift or inheritance and its not commingled
I was about to get gifted 2.5 acres recently that my business sits on and another quarter of a city block but told the ole man to hold off just in case.
 
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@jaihawk why would it matter whether it's a joint account? All accounts between a husband and wife are marital property and would be split ~50/50 in the event of divorce. So if this strategy works on joint accounts, it would work on his own personal (non-joint) account too, right?

Yes, you're right... I just assumed all accounts were Joint. Definitely start hoarding away cash though...
 
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