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Breaking Turd Alberts to Texas A&M (5 Viewers)

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I can't blame Alberts. If you are not happy in your gig, get a new gig. Not having a boss that can actually move at your speed and is aligned with you - that can really make for an unhappy person. Especially for people who want to move mountains.

I really would have preferred he stay, but I've been in that situation before and I get it. So few people actually 'go to a new job' as much as they 'leave the old job.'

Albert's approach seemed rather slimey to me, but I agree with you for the most part. It's doubtful we'll ever know the whole story, but it seems like he was fed up with the lack of leadership. The fact that the regents can't or won't elect a new chancellor is ridiculous. They've voted three times already, and each time it's tied 4-4. None of them are willing to change their vote to break the tie, and it's just causing unnecessary uncertainty and a lack of direction.
 

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Guys. It’s Compton. He loves Nebraska. Getting down to College Station and possibly interviewing Turd again is just part of his career.
Compton might as well be a yell leader now.

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This bill that was introduced at the request of the governor at the beginning of the year would essentially prohibit what Turd wanted to do with in house NIL.

(5) No third-party entity or individual shall be prohibited from:
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1 (a) Communicating with a student-athlete to create, identify,
2 facilitate, enable, or support name, image, or likeness activities;
3 (b) Compensating a student-athlete for the use of such student4 athlete's name, image, or likeness rights or athletic reputation; or
5 (c) Compensating student-athletes for promoting:
6 (i) An athletics event in which the student-athlete may participate,
7 if the third-party entity or individual has an agreement to promote the
athletics event; or8
9 (ii) The postsecondary institution which the student-athlete
attends.



A postsecondary institution shall not compensate a student athlete for the use of the student-athlete's name, image, or likeness
rights or athletic reputation
 

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TL,DR: I feel like I am 100% in the minority here where I don't really care that Turd left. He has not helped his cause in any way by his actions or his words, but the decision to leave doesn't really have me feeling any negativity towards him. He has left the AD in a better place than he found it, which is more than we can say about pretty much 4 of the last 5 ADs (TO at least left it the same if not better). Nebraska will be a pretty attractive job for many candidates because of the current state of the AD and the money we are willing to spend.



It is easy to see that the AD is in a better place since when he took over, which is really all we can ask of whoever the AD is at Nebraska. Turd threaded the needle with Frost to appease certain people before letting Frost hang himself, and then brought in a well respected coach who we all seem to be excited about. He threaded the same needle with Hoiberg, and that situation allowed Fred to grow and turn his program around. Baseball is trending up, volleyball is still great, women's basketball is doing well, softball has one of the top talents on their roster, and other sports are also seemingly doing well. He launched the ambitious plan of renovating Memorial, which is long overdue, and he has listened to the fans by adding seating to Bowlin Stadium, working towards adding beer sales, and generally uniting the AD (Rhule deserves more credit than Turd here, but the point still stands).

When Turd first took over, the AD was a complete disaster outside of basically the volleyball program. Some others were showing life, but the main money makers, football and men's basketball, were complete shit. That doesn't seem to be the case today.

As far as him taking a seemingly lateral move for the same money and a smaller contract, that seems to show he was really not happy with different things going on behind the scenes (again his previous words about being so happy here, yada yada yada, do not help him in any way). Whether those issues are political, lack of University President, disagreement with the potential University President, the lawsuit, funding issues, whatever, it obviously seemed to be a major deal breaker in him staying here and his potential ambitions for the rest of his career.

The political issues seem to be the reason gaining the most steam as the reason he is leaving, and it is something that is a major issue in this state. The top leaders in this state are obviously right-leaning, and while that is good for this state in many ways, it definitely seems to have negative consequences towards the University. Decreasing funding for the school created issues that seemed to at least contribute to the previous Chancellor and President leaving. It also seems like that may have some consequences on getting new highly qualified candidates as replacements. While not directly related to the AD, it does have other consequences. Turd was also fighting for private funding for the stadium, as well as trying to get fans to help fund NIL. Getting that funding, while the University is also looking for funding, seems to has caused some type of issues. Whether that be donors not wanting to help in this current climate or determining where the best place to place their donations (stadium vs. NIL vs. something else), it appears to be causing some turmoil within the entire University.

Compare all this to TAMU, and they don't seem to be having the same issues. UNL is currently trimming their budget by $12 million. On the other hand, last year, TAMU received a record (for them) $1.19 billion for their budget, including raises for some of their employees for the next 2 years. They also have completed their stadium renovation, and their football coach is new so Turd wouldn't have to worry about that in the immediate future. If Turd's ultimate goal is to continue moving up towards conference commissioner of CFP chairman, moving to A&M is a smart move, even if it is currently a lateral move as an AD and it feels traitorous as a Nebraska alum.
 

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Does the governor have a major hand in the hiring of the University President? I have no idea.

I’d love more high profile criticism of the BoR and University leadership. Right now I really want my pound of flesh.
Several people familiar with the university’s current presidential search have said Pillen has been very specific about what he wants in the next NU president. Three declined to speak on the record for fear of retribution but said they were told he wants someone with Nebraska ties, someone willing to stay in the job for 10 years and someone who won’t advocate for the diversity, equity and inclusion efforts that Pillen campaigned against in 2022.

Pillen initially denied having made any requests of the regents. He also denied trying to influence their presidential choice. After the Examiner followed up and shared what it had been told, the governor acknowledged having made his wish list clear.

“Yeah, maybe I can clarify that … I’ve been very, very public,” he said. “We need a great Nebraskan to be the leader of our university system. We don’t need a shiny star. We need somebody that understands Nebraska, understands the people of Nebraska and understands that the taxpayers are our boss.”

He also confirmed the push for someone who would stay 10 years, saying, “To really make things happen, having a 10-year expectation is reality.”

“If you try to hire somebody for two years, you’re spinning your wheels,” Pillen said.

Of the third push, he said he also told people that he wanted someone who “understands what our Nebraska values are and what Nebraskans expect.”




Whatever Tr*v's personal politics are, or how the chain of command for these kinds of hires is supposed to work, it seems pretty clear that Pillen's extremely stringent "wish list" is a big obstacle in this process and he's trying to put all the blame on his former buddies in the BOR. A Nebraskan who is qualified to be the president of a gigantic public academic institution, is willing to make a 10 year commitment, is against diversity initiatives, and presumably wants to keep slashing the education budget... I'm not an expert in the upper echelon academic world at all, but is Pillen trying to force them to find a unicorn?
 

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Several people familiar with the university’s current presidential search have said Pillen has been very specific about what he wants in the next NU president. Three declined to speak on the record for fear of retribution but said they were told he wants someone with Nebraska ties, someone willing to stay in the job for 10 years and someone who won’t advocate for the diversity, equity and inclusion efforts that Pillen campaigned against in 2022.

Pillen initially denied having made any requests of the regents. He also denied trying to influence their presidential choice. After the Examiner followed up and shared what it had been told, the governor acknowledged having made his wish list clear.

“Yeah, maybe I can clarify that … I’ve been very, very public,” he said. “We need a great Nebraskan to be the leader of our university system. We don’t need a shiny star. We need somebody that understands Nebraska, understands the people of Nebraska and understands that the taxpayers are our boss.”

He also confirmed the push for someone who would stay 10 years, saying, “To really make things happen, having a 10-year expectation is reality.”

“If you try to hire somebody for two years, you’re spinning your wheels,” Pillen said.

Of the third push, he said he also told people that he wanted someone who “understands what our Nebraska values are and what Nebraskans expect.”




Whatever Tr*v's personal politics are, or how the chain of command for these kinds of hires is supposed to work, but it seems pretty clear that Pillen's extremely stringent "wish list" is a big obstacle in this process and he's trying to put all the blame on his former buddies in the BOR. A Nebraskan who is qualified to be the president of a gigantic public academic institution, is willing to make a 10 year commitment, and is against diversity initiatives... I'm not an expert in the upper echelon academic world at all, but is Pillen trying to force them to find a unicorn?


I know it’s ricketts but they’re one of the same
 

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How bad must it be, or how selfish would he have to be? Half the state already hates him, but I think he earned back SOME of that goodwill the last few years. Now, knowing he's going to piss off the rest of the state, your alma mater, the team you played for, and knowing you will not be forgiven for years, if at all by most people, he's either a total douchebag, or things are REAAAALY worse that we can imagine behind the scenes.
 

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How bad must it be, or how selfish would he have to be? Half the state already hates him, but I think he earned back SOME of that goodwill the last few years. Now, knowing he's going to piss off the rest of the state, your alma mater, the team you played for, and knowing you will not be forgiven for years, if at all by most people, he's either a total douchebag, or things are REAAAALY worse that we can imagine behind the scenes.
Both...
 

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Several people familiar with the university’s current presidential search have said Pillen has been very specific about what he wants in the next NU president. Three declined to speak on the record for fear of retribution but said they were told he wants someone with Nebraska ties, someone willing to stay in the job for 10 years and someone who won’t advocate for the diversity, equity and inclusion efforts that Pillen campaigned against in 2022.

The scott frost hire makes more sense in hindsight

1. Nebraskan
2. nobody would hire him away
3. didn't advocate for diversity at skill positions
 

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Several people familiar with the university’s current presidential search have said Pillen has been very specific about what he wants in the next NU president. Three declined to speak on the record for fear of retribution but said they were told he wants someone with Nebraska ties, someone willing to stay in the job for 10 years and someone who won’t advocate for the diversity, equity and inclusion efforts that Pillen campaigned against in 2022.

Pillen initially denied having made any requests of the regents. He also denied trying to influence their presidential choice. After the Examiner followed up and shared what it had been told, the governor acknowledged having made his wish list clear.

“Yeah, maybe I can clarify that … I’ve been very, very public,” he said. “We need a great Nebraskan to be the leader of our university system. We don’t need a shiny star. We need somebody that understands Nebraska, understands the people of Nebraska and understands that the taxpayers are our boss.”

He also confirmed the push for someone who would stay 10 years, saying, “To really make things happen, having a 10-year expectation is reality.”

“If you try to hire somebody for two years, you’re spinning your wheels,” Pillen said.

Of the third push, he said he also told people that he wanted someone who “understands what our Nebraska values are and what Nebraskans expect.”




Whatever Tr*v's personal politics are, or how the chain of command for these kinds of hires is supposed to work, it seems pretty clear that Pillen's extremely stringent "wish list" is a big obstacle in this process and he's trying to put all the blame on his former buddies in the BOR. A Nebraskan who is qualified to be the president of a gigantic public academic institution, is willing to make a 10 year commitment, is against diversity initiatives, and presumably wants to keep slashing the education budget... I'm not an expert in the upper echelon academic world at all, but is Pillen trying to force them to find a unicorn?
He wants Ben Sasse but didn't move quickly enough before Sasse took a better job. Not that I think Sasse is qualified per se.

But Nebraska from governor down needs to get aligned on what the long term vision for the university system actually is because they, like every other public university system, are facing a coming enrollment apocalypse and they need big bold leadership to navigate that and come out on the other side as a top tier academic institution
 

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Of the third push, he said he also told people that he wanted someone who “understands what our Nebraska values are and what Nebraskans expect.”
This one has always annoyed me. What are the magical values that exist in NE that don't in other states? Is it simply the political values?

When I moved away from NE I never thought to myself, "gosh I'd sure like to get back and enjoy those Nebraska values!"
 

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Fuckin ridiculous. I guess this is the logical conclusion for these people though. Sabotage the system until it falls apart, then blame the system so you don't have to take responsibility.
yup! politics in a nutshell. and sadly its seeping into athletics.
I do wish people would actually understand or at least pay attention to who they vote for and what's going on behind the scene. Like I understand people cant watch all sessions or don't have interest but some attentiveness would help matters. I had a lot of people the last few days ask me how one becomes a regent. They didn't know that was a voting measure. or others state they just vote for the incumbent. Maybe its just me because I have an interest in this stuff but I think it is extremely important to be somewhat in the know
 

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Yeah I tend to think that both can be true. I’m also wondering if the issue isn’t liberal vs conservative but instead that they can’t seem to make a decision about anything.

Turd made some comment about it being like our current political situation, (sorry for the paraphrasing). I took that to mean there’s no compromise or bipartisanship, and therefore nothing gets done. Another poster alluded to something similar in the presidential votes being tied 4-4.

I could be totally off base here. Just my opinion. But yes he’s still a chickenshit.
 

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Several people familiar with the university’s current presidential search have said Pillen has been very specific about what he wants in the next NU president. Three declined to speak on the record for fear of retribution but said they were told he wants someone with Nebraska ties, someone willing to stay in the job for 10 years and someone who won’t advocate for the diversity, equity and inclusion efforts that Pillen campaigned against in 2022.

Pillen initially denied having made any requests of the regents. He also denied trying to influence their presidential choice. After the Examiner followed up and shared what it had been told, the governor acknowledged having made his wish list clear.

“Yeah, maybe I can clarify that … I’ve been very, very public,” he said. “We need a great Nebraskan to be the leader of our university system. We don’t need a shiny star. We need somebody that understands Nebraska, understands the people of Nebraska and understands that the taxpayers are our boss.”

He also confirmed the push for someone who would stay 10 years, saying, “To really make things happen, having a 10-year expectation is reality.”

“If you try to hire somebody for two years, you’re spinning your wheels,” Pillen said.

Of the third push, he said he also told people that he wanted someone who “understands what our Nebraska values are and what Nebraskans expect.”




Whatever Tr*v's personal politics are, or how the chain of command for these kinds of hires is supposed to work, it seems pretty clear that Pillen's extremely stringent "wish list" is a big obstacle in this process and he's trying to put all the blame on his former buddies in the BOR. A Nebraskan who is qualified to be the president of a gigantic public academic institution, is willing to make a 10 year commitment, is against diversity initiatives, and presumably wants to keep slashing the education budget... I'm not an expert in the upper echelon academic world at all, but is Pillen trying to force them to find a unicorn?
This is a good analysis. You're right there aren't too many that fit the mold.

There's Milliken, who doesn't seem to be leaving UT and has already left the Nebraska presidency once.
And there's Sasse, who seems to like Florida and I think he would probably only leave for an Ivy League (or equivalent) presidency.
There is Plowman at Tenn. I heard her name get thrown out quite a bit at the beginning of the search, but haven't heard anything since.

I can't think of any other unicorns out there.
That's just my two cents. We need a president ASAP though.
 

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This one has always annoyed me. What are the magical values that exist in NE that don't in other states? Is it simply the political values?

When I moved away from NE I never thought to myself, "gosh I'd sure like to get back and enjoy those Nebraska values!"
I agree with this. I always thought the nebraska way was good hearted hard working people who give the shirt of their backs. But not anymore, the nebraska way is the politicians way.

25% of currently enrolled student in the whole system are out of staters.
 

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