Breaking USC & UCLAbia Joining BIG 10

[Black Dean]

This Cal dustup just smells like a ham-fisted effort to wrangle them an invite.

Drop UCLAbia and take Stanford instead. I know you want the LA area all to the B1G, but fuck Cal.

In order of teams I want the B1G to get next:

1. Notre Dame
2. Miami (FL)
3. Stanford
4. North Carolina
5. Oregon
6. Florida State
7. Colorado
8. Georgia Tech
9. Washington
10. Virginia

 

[BorWhiskey]

I’d have UNC 2nd. I’d have BC on my short list, too, but know they don’t bring a lot of demand. Good school and theoretically a good market. My aim would be to:

• Establish region-specific divisions
• Be positioned in all the major markets
• Retain the academic prestige we have today, especially over the SEC

I stuck at doing this on my phone… hit post to soon.

I’d want to add Utah, Stanford, Cal, Oregon and Washington out west. I’d flirt with A&M and Mizzou to put SEC on notice for their shade. And add Colorado and KU. TCU as my backup.

Then establish a south with UNC, UVa, GT, FSU (so the SEC doesn’t get them) and Miami. I’d consider Duke, too, if we are going balls out.

And then flesh out the NE with Pitt and BC.

Let ND be independent within conference. Not tied to a division.

The B1G then has their own 4-6 team playoff they market the shit out of.

 

[Black Dean]

I’d have UNC 2nd. I’d have BC on my short list, too, but know they don’t bring a lot of demand. Good school and theoretically a good market. My aim would be to:

• Establish region-specific divisions
• Be positioned in all the major markets
• Retain the academic prestige we have today, especially over the SEC

Divisions won’t be around much longer imo. I really see in 5-10 years the B1G & SEC football break off and keep the playoffs for themselves. Only a matter of time before the ACC dominos fall.

 

[Irv]

I think it's very interesting that sources would say to McMurphy that ACC schools are being considered. It's been reported repeatedly that the ACC GOR is almost impossible to sever. Would love to know what's going on behind the scenes for someone to throw those schools out there.

If something is really brewing with the ACC, it's about to get wild.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

I think it's very interesting that sources would say to McMurphy that ACC schools are being considered. It's been reported repeatedly that the ACC GOR is almost impossible to sever. Would love to know what's going on behind the scenes for someone to throw those schools out there.

If something is really brewing with the ACC, it's about to get wild.

My uninformed guess is that it's a very long time horizon conversation or you have a school or two who are willing to eat a short term $100 million for long term financial security

 

[BorWhiskey]

Divisions won’t be around much longer imo. I really see in 5-10 years the B1G & SEC football break off and keep the playoffs for themselves. Only a matter of time before the ACC dominos fall.

I think divisions in the short term will go away, but if we grow past 20 will be re-established.

 

[Cash68847]

I’d have UNC 2nd. I’d have BC on my short list, too, but know they don’t bring a lot of demand. Good school and theoretically a good market. My aim would be to:

• Establish region-specific divisions
• Be positioned in all the major markets
• Retain the academic prestige we have today, especially over the SEC

I stuck at doing this on my phone… hit post to soon.

I’d want to add Utah, Stanford, Cal, Oregon and Washington out west. I’d flirt with A&M and Mizzou to put SEC on notice for their shade. And add Colorado and KU. TCU as my backup.

Then establish a south with UNC, UVa, GT, FSU (so the SEC doesn’t get them) and Miami. I’d consider Duke, too, if we are going balls out.

And then flesh out the NE with Pitt and BC.

Let ND be independent within conference. Not tied to a division.

The B1G then has their own 4-6 team playoff they market the shit out of.

The BIG should have moved on Texas and OU when they had a chance.

 

[Irv]

Arizona 247 guy

 

[Irv]

Dodd says B1G wants 250 million from tv to add those four schools

 

[Kaladin]

Dodd says B1G wants 250 million from tv to add those four schools

Nice

 

[Irv]

Looks like Warren ruffled some feathers yesterday, Someone from the ACC is not pleased. And again we get mentions of those 4 Pac schools and a passing reference to Miami.

Hayes: There's no ceiling to the B1G's hypocrisy​

Matt Hayes
Nick Saban gives the same simple speech to every player he signs, and every coach he hires.

I can deal with good news and bad news. I can’t deal with the unknown.

It’s time for some honesty in college football. Time to stop the disingenuous shell game and the outright deceit.

Time to stop the backstabbing and two-timing, stop saying one thing while executing another.

Time to eliminate the unknown.

“I’m absolutely floored by what I just watched,” an ACC athletic director texted me Tuesday.

There was Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren in Chicago, kicking off the league’s Media Days like a politician in an election year — shifting lanes and changing narratives and swimming in hypocrisy without a hint of shame or embarrassment.

Less than a year ago, he was humble and reserved, touting the virtues of “like minds and universities” while rolling out the shell game he called an “Alliance.”

He convinced the Pac-12 and ACC that together, they could stand up to the big bully SEC and do what’s right to save amateur heaven.

Only a funny thing happened along the way to holier than thou: The Wolf bared his fangs and claws and — tada! — he looked a whole lot like the big, bad SEC. Only much worse.

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That was Warren Tuesday afternoon, saying the Big Ten had to be “bold” and “innovative” and “creative” — all while avoiding the obvious hypocrisy of mortally stabbing the Pac-12, its Alliance partner, stealing its 2 biggest brands (USC and UCLAbia) and leaving it to die on the vine.

Bold. Innovative. Creative.

Warren and the Big Ten are zeroing in on the future of college sports, and he made it very clear they wouldn’t stand around and watch again. Those days are long gone.

Not long after Warren’s speech, Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith told ESPN that he could see a 16-team Playoff develop.

I mean, the stones on these guys.

This is the same conference that, along with its Alliance pals, torpedoed a 12-team Playoff expansion mere months ago because things were moving too quickly, and player safety, and the future of amateur sports … and blah, blah, blah.

And everyone bought it.

That was Warren Tuesday, standing barrel-chested and not flinching. The ultimate politician.

“He knows what he said and what he sold a year ago,” the ACC athletic director said. “It doesn’t matter. He’ll just tell you another story.”

Warren now claims the Big Ten won’t expand just to add teams, that any future expansion must be a value add. Notre Dame is the biggest piece remaining on the board, but the Irish value their independence and are currently negotiating a new media rights deal.

Maybe Warren’s bold talk at Big Ten Media Days was a demarcation of sorts for Notre Dame. Here’s the line, here’s the deal.

The bus is filling up. Join now or else.

Or maybe, as multiple industry sources told SDS, the Big Ten really is interested in stretching its geographical footprint from New York City to Seattle, to Los Angeles, to Miami and back to the home office in Chicago. A true national conference.

There’s a reason multiple industry sources told SDS that Washington, Stanford, Oregon and Cal are balking at signing any new media rights agreement with the Pac-12 with an eye toward further Big Ten expansion.

The more the Big Ten shakes the expansion tree, the more there is panic in the streets. SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said last week that his league will stay at 16 teams unless circumstances dictate otherwise.

Kevin Warren just opened up a can of the unknown.

There are 2 ways this ends: the Big Ten stays at 16, or we’re on our way to an NFL future in college football, complete with a 20-team AFC and NFC (Big Ten and SEC), a postseason tournament and a Super Bowl.

Bold. Innovative. Creative.

Deceitful. Disingenuous. And yes, destabilizing.

The ultimate politician delivering the unknown.

 

[Irv]

Dodd confirming B1G looking at the 4 Pac schools:

INDIANAPOLIS -- As conference expansion rages onward, Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren left us breadcrumbs to follow in recent days. Warren's hints at further expansion could result in another bombshell that would shake the Pac-12.

The Big Ten is evaluating the worthiness of adding Cal, Oregon, Stanford and Washington from the Pac-12 to expand its conference to at least 20 teams, sources told CBS Sports this week.

While not confirming expansion activities with those specific schools, Warren told CBS Sports the addition of any teams beyond USC and UCLAbia (joining in 2024) would come after the current media rights deal is finalized in August.

"We're not 'targeting,'" said Warren when CBS Sports directly inquired about the candidacy of those four programs. "Like I said, my focus is on taking care of our 14 institutions."

However, it's fair to say statements made during Warren's state-of-the-union address at the Big Ten Media Days this week have sent a ripple of concern through college athletics that another bombshell could drop. The Action Network first reported the Big Ten's interest in those programs.

The idea of adding Cal, Oregon, Stanford and Washington would be to establish a Western bulkhead that would be academically appealing enough for Big Ten presidents to approve further expansion. However, it's uncertain whether any of the Big Ten's future rightsholders would find value in such a move.

Financially, those four programs are not worth near the money now expected to be distributed to Big Ten schools with USC and UCLAbia in the fold ($80 million to $100 million annually). Competitively, though, it would be a lifeline for the Pac-12's next-best football brands.

Oregon has played for championships, Washington claims two titles, and Stanford is considered the next-best Pac-12 football prospect due to excellence established under Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw. Stanford and Cal are also known for their widely successful athletic departments. CBS Sports previously reported Oregon's desperation, and Cal being ditched by UCLAbia has even drawn the ire of California Gov. Gavin Newsom.

A 20-team Big Ten would be arguably the largest assemblage of football brands major-college sports history. It would also give pause to a collegiate enterprise trying to figure out its future these days.

Warren used some form of the word "bold" eight times on Tuesday. "Aggressive" was used three times in his address. Unlike SEC commissioner Greg Sankey last week, Warren lobbed a veiled warning: The Big Ten may not be done.

 

[Bootleg11]

I don’t see how Cal adds any value

 

[Irv]

Apparently B1G is on some info warfare shit

 

[Kaladin]

I don’t see how Cal adds any value

Academics. Lots of research $$$. Big 10 is the academic conference.

 

[Irv]

I don’t see how Cal adds any value

I think it's a school that the Presidents want to add. Need to be given a financial excuse to do so.

 

[Kaladin]

 

[Juro]

Apparently B1G is on some info warfare shit

You can't trust either of these guys, especially Greg, when it comes to CFB expansion rumors. They're throwing darts at a board and hoping one of them hits.

 

[That SOB Van Owen]

Dodd says B1G wants 250 million from tv to add those four schools

Wouldn’t that be dilutive?

 

[Irv]

Wouldn’t that be dilutive?

I think it would. But you could imagine how having half of the Pac could be a moneymaker long term.