UNC to the SEC?

[Kaladin]

Big Ten needs to get to work on Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Virginia

 

[Kaladin]

Big Ten needs to get to work on Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Virginia

Maybe FSU too

Big Ten should take UNC or Duke

 

[LoudHogRider]

Big Ten needs to get to work on Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Virginia

That will piss off ol' Jim Delaney. His alma mater, IIRC.

 

[jaihawk]

That would be a horrible fit for UNC.

 

[doublewing]

That would be a horrible fit for UNC.

As would the B10. They are where they need to be as a cultural fit and traditional rivalries.

 

[BradWesley]

Big Ten needs to get to work on Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Virginia

@SirYacht reporting this?

 

[Quint]

As would the B10. They are where they need to be as a cultural fit and traditional rivalries.

You’re not wrong. I said the same thing about our leaving the Big 12 (other than hating Texas)

UNC’s problem (and really any attractive program in the ACC) is the conference is in decline from a financial standpoint and what was already a largely second tier football conference will potentially slip even further down the ladder. The SEC and B1G both offer the financial security no other conferences offer. I (and apparently UNC’s higher ups) think that gap widens in the coming decade.

UNC isn’t an SEC school or fan base at all. Many of their fans are snotty and don’t fit. Their basketball programs carries weight and will compete well in the SEC, but that’s about it.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

You’re not wrong. I said the same thing about our leaving the Big 12 (other than hating Texas)

UNC’s problem (and really any attractive program in the ACC) is the conference is in decline from a financial standpoint and what was already a largely second tier football conference will potentially slip even further down the ladder. The SEC and B1G both offer the financial security no other conferences offer. I (and apparently UNC’s higher ups) think that gap widens in the coming decade.

UNC isn’t an SEC school or fan base at all. Many of their fans are snotty and don’t fit. Their basketball programs carries weight and will compete well in the SEC, but that’s about it.

UNC is probably in a better financial position than most non-P2 schools, but they see the writing on the wall. If they don't find a way to substantially increase revenue they will be left behind

This article is really telling. Cockeye State is facing a $147 million deficit, roughly $25 million/year. Which really means they have been operating on a $5 million annual deficit and now have the $20 million going to players on top of that. They can't afford to pay the full allowed amount, but are doing it anyway to avoid being left behind for now.

Over the next 5 years we'll see a lot of schools forced to drop back and stop pretending they are competing on the same level as the P2.

Facing $147M deficit, ISU Athletics halts Hilton Coliseum renovation, ups ticket prices

Cockeye State University Athletics — facing a $147 million budget deficit through 2031, or just under $25 million annually over the next six years — is rolling out painful concessions, including indefinitely postponing construction of a new wrestling practice facility and $25 million renovation of...

www.thegazette.com

 

[Mavsker]

@SirYacht reporting this?

The GOAT
Also he ended up hitting it big, he has nearly half a million subscribers on YouTube and like 20 videos with over a million views

 

[whoboppin]

I really wanted UNC in the Big 10. Hopefully they are open to talking to the Big Ten.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

@Jim14510 is exploring a potential move to leave his wife for a big tittied Instagram "model"


I'll let you know how both work out

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Sorry, just getting news, that neither will happen.

 

[Tonkasker]

As would the B10. They are where they need to be as a cultural fit and traditional rivalries.

ucla played in piscataway last year

I would rather have UNC than either of those teams

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

That would be a horrible fit for UNC.

As would the B10. They are where they need to be as a cultural fit and traditional rivalries.

I agree with this in the traditional sense, but the other conferences are going away, and we're going to be left with 2 leagues that aren't really going to be conferences in the way we used to think about conferences, but mini-NCAAs. If you want to play big boy sports at the college level, you pick one of the 2 to align yourself with, based on which one you think will make the most money for your school, and you probably want to hop on board sooner rather than later to get yourself the best deal.

Then in a few years, once basically everyone has sorted, the conference that did the best at acquiring influential schools will have the upper hand in negotiations about how the 2 organizations come up with the rules & oversight framework that replaces/overhauls the NCAA.

At that point, with 2 25-30 team "conference" things can split back into some type of regional pods that are kinda sorta like the old smaller conferences of a few years ago.

 

[doublewing]

ucla played in piscataway last year

I would rather have UNC than either of those teams

I'd like to play a lot of teams rather than our B10 conference members but that does not mean it's also best in the long run for those teams or the sport in general.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Just add all the programs who are worth money to one league, negotiate a mega TV deal, break the league into 2 to 4 conferences and then N regional divisions, centralize scheduling and be done with it.

 

[whoboppin]

I agree with this in the traditional sense, but the other conferences are going away, and we're going to be left with 2 leagues that aren't really going to be conferences in the way we used to think about conferences, but mini-NCAAs. If you want to play big boy sports at the college level, you pick one of the 2 to align yourself with, based on which one you think will make the most money for your school, and you probably want to hop on board sooner rather than later to get yourself the best deal.

Then in a few years, once basically everyone has sorted, the conference that did the best at acquiring influential schools will have the upper hand in negotiations about how the 2 organizations come up with the rules & oversight framework that replaces/overhauls the NCAA.

At that point, with 2 25-30 team "conference" things can split back into some type of regional pods that are kinda sorta like the old smaller conferences of a few years ago.

This is what people dont get about expansion. If the SEC and Big Ten go MEGA conference size to 24 or 28, it will paradoxically become more regional. The SEC and BIG will just be like the AFC and the NFC. They are just trimming the fat a little bit and moving from about 65 P5 schools to about 48-56 P2 schools.

After the ACC is killed off, schools will be desperate and the Big Ten and SEC will get some sweet heart deals to incorporate more schools into the mix. The Big Tens strategy is to have a national conference. Adding more Southeast and West Coast schools will allow them to charge more as they would be in all markets.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[Toe]

Purely for selfish reasons, I'd love to see all of the Research Triangle teams (UNC, NC State, and Duke) join the Big Ten. It would make it a lot easier for me to see a Husker game now and then!