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[alt f4]

Was this the right call @alt f4 ?

Yes. It's a very weird rule and has happened 1 or 2 since this game.

On a PAT or 2 point conversion, if defense possesses the ball outside their endzone and brings it back or fumbles it into endzone where play becomes dead, it's a 1 point safety for the offense.

 

[Jim14510]

Yes. It's a very weird rule and has happened 1 or 2 since this game.

On a PAT or 2 point conversion, if defense possesses the ball outside their endzone and brings it back or fumbles it into endzone where play becomes dead, it's a 1 point safety for the offense.

When is the ball dead? If you kick a FG and it goes beyond the LOS and hits the ground its a dead ball correct? Is that not true on a PAT?

 

[alt f4]

When is the ball dead? If you kick a FG and it goes beyond the LOS and hits the ground its a dead ball correct? Is that not true on a PAT?

College rules below, high school is slightly different than below.

If a kicked (FG/PAT) ball goes beyond LOS and is untouched by defense clearly beyond the neutral zone, it's dead when offense touches it or if it goes into EZ.

Now if defense clearly touches that ball between LOS and goal line its live for both teams. Either can advance or recover.

 

[Alcaus]

College rules below, high school is slightly different than below.

If a kicked (FG/PAT) ball goes beyond LOS and is untouched by defense clearly beyond the neutral zone, it's dead when offense touches it or if it goes into EZ.

Now if defense clearly touches that ball between LOS and goal line its live for both teams. Either can advance or recover.

So if a PAT is blocked, recovered by the offense and scored does that count as 2 points?

I'm assuming it would.

 

[Jim14510]

So if a PAT is blocked, recovered by the offense and scored does that count as 2 points?

I'm assuming it would.

No. Because defense touched it. That's the part I was missing.

 

[Alcaus]

No. Because defense touched it. That's the part I was missing.

So the fact that the ball is kicked is what determines the point count on an PAT for both offense and defense?

 

[vailhusker]

 

[vailhusker]

 

[vailhusker]

 

[alt f4]

So if a PAT is blocked, recovered by the offense and scored does that count as 2 points?

I'm assuming it would.

Yes, 2 points for offense, only if
1. it was blocked, ball didn't cross neutral zone and offense recovered and ran it in.
or
2. it was blocked, defense clearly touched the ball after it crossed the neutral zone and before ball crossed the goal line. Offense recovers and runs it in.

If the ball is blocked and crosses the neutral zone and defense DOESN'T touch it, offense cannot score.

So in short blocked PAT
Doesn't go past neutral zone either team can pick up and score 2 points. Beyond neutral zone, only defense can pick up and score, unless they touch/muff/fumble the ball and then offense can score.

Very similar rule to recovery of a punt beyond neutral zone. Only small difference is if kicking team recovers a touched punt, the kicking team cannot advance.

 

[Jim14510]

So the fact that the ball is kicked is what determines the point count on an PAT for both offense and defense?

I misunderstood the question. Thought you meant it went past the LOS. Should have just let @alt f4 answer.

 

[Alcaus]

Yes, 2 points for offense, only if
1. it was blocked, ball didn't cross neutral zone and offense recovered and ran it in.
or
2. it was blocked, defense clearly touched the ball after it crossed the neutral zone and before ball crossed the goal line. Offense recovers and runs it in.

If the ball is blocked and crosses the neutral zone and defense DOESN'T touch it, offense cannot score.

So in short blocked PAT
Doesn't go past neutral zone either team can pick up and score 2 points. Beyond neutral zone, only defense can pick up and score, unless they touch/muff/fumble the ball and then offense can score.

Very similar rule to recovery of a punt beyond neutral zone. Only small difference is if kicking team recovers a touched punt, the kicking team cannot advance.

Great breakdown, thank you.

 

[Alcaus]

I misunderstood the question. Thought you meant it went past the LOS. Should have just let @alt f4 answer.

Should've been more clear, but it makes sense that the defense would need an opportunity to score before allowing the offense a chance to score on what was basically a defensive "win" (blocking the kick).

 

[Bootleg11]

Holy shit look how many staffers they have. Interns are included but still, holy shit. The SEC schools that are serious about winning put so much into that behind the scenes staff.

Sounds like Napier has the university's backing.

 

[BorWhiskey]

Yes. It's a very weird rule and has happened 1 or 2 since this game.

On a PAT or 2 point conversion, if defense possesses the ball outside their endzone and brings it back or fumbles it into endzone where play becomes dead, it's a 1 point safety for the offense.

This is one of my favorite trivia questions… how can a team end a game with only 1 point? The only reason I discovered this rule was it happened to me in NCAA football years ago.

 

[vailhusker]

 

[#HBD]

 

[Jim14510]

Really anxious to see what she thinks.

 

[Jim14510]

She must have ADD.