Regardless of who gets hired, how much time?

[Jim14510]

Scott Fuchs

kuathletics.com

Pronounced "Fukes" I believe. At least the 2 kids I went to school with pronounced it like that.

But his o-line does fuck so maybe he goes by that.

There's a Fuchs in the show Barry. Must be related.

 

[slattimer]

I agree that the O line and D line have to be priority 1 and 2...although QB always has to be up there.

Just need to understand that developing an O line/D line and the depth it takes time. The transfer portal is a good tool, but really good O line/D line are the hardest transfers to get. 1) They don't transfer as much 2) everybody needs them.

I don't think the OL we have are so awful they can't be rescued. I see some of the shit they do, or schemes they get into, it's hard.

Plus I heard Raiola speak at the coaching clinic in the spring. He talked about hand placement of the OL....and it was basically the opposite of everything I've ever been taught as a player, or saw/learned from any other coach at a number of clinics I've been to over the last 18 years. He was thumbs in, not thumbs up.

The biggest issue to me upfront, how much movement do they really block on a regular basis? It just doesn't seem like much, maybe I'm wrong, because outside of the one practice I watched, I have no idea. But that one practice in the spring, was very little movement, and a lot of doubling an entrenched DL to a backer.

Heard a Coach Embree speak at a clinic one year in KC, he's been at Mizzou, Arkansas, and several other stops. His pass protection stuff was really good, but he talked at length that if you want to get good at picking up shit, you've got to rep the looks you're going to get on film and the standard defensive blitzes like America's blitz.

 

[Bootleg11]

I don't think the OL we have are so awful they can't be rescued. I see some of the shit they do, or schemes they get into, it's hard.

Plus I heard Raiola speak at the coaching clinic in the spring. He talked about hand placement of the OL....and it was basically the opposite of everything I've ever been taught as a player, or saw/learned from any other coach at a number of clinics I've been to over the last 18 years. He was thumbs in, not thumbs up.

The biggest issue to me upfront, how much movement do they really block on a regular basis? It just doesn't seem like much, maybe I'm wrong, because outside of the one practice I watched, I have no idea. But that one practice in the spring, was very little movement, and a lot of doubling an entrenched DL to a backer.

Heard a Coach Embree speak at a clinic one year in KC, he's been at Mizzou, Arkansas, and several other stops. His pass protection stuff was really good, but he talked at length that if you want to get good at picking up shit, you've got to rep the looks you're going to get on film and the standard defensive blitzes like America's blitz.

If Teddy ever stayed healthy that would be 3 top 150 recruits on the o line...Benhart, Corcoran and Teddy. Corcoran has to play interior right? What the heck do you do with Benhart? He looks like Nick Gates did at the end of his career at Nebraska. Is he an interior guy too?

 

[Driveway Jordan]

Pronounced "Fukes" I believe.

Fuke it.

 

[Eloot224]

I agree that the O line and D line have to be priority 1 and 2...although QB always has to be up there.

Just need to understand that developing an O line/D line and the depth it takes time. The transfer portal is a good tool, but really good O line/D line are the hardest transfers to get. 1) They don't transfer as much 2) everybody needs them.

After the HC hire. Personally, I think the S&C and OL coaches are the next two biggest hires after the HC.
This program, in this Conference needs an absolute game changer in S&C and OL.

Give me Leipold at Kansas with Scott Fucks and bring in Ed O for the Dline. I have no clue on S&C other than the fella that got shit canned at Cockeye.

Keep Mickey at WR. Now Leipold would have his home run recruiters in Mick and Ed O.

EDIT: keep Bill Busch too. Three headed monster in recruiting and David Guida or whatever his name is, in the Recruiting Dept.

 

[Bootleg11]

After the HC hire. Personally, I think the S&C and OL coaches are the next two biggest hires after the HC.
This program, in this Conference needs an absolute game changer in S&C and OL.

Give me Leipold at Kansas with Scott Fucks and bring in Ed O for the Dline. I have no clue on S&C other than the fella that got shit canned at Cockeyes.

Keep Mickey at WR. Now Leipold would have his home run recruiters in Mick and Ed O.

EDIT: keep Bill Busch too. Three headed monster in recruiting and David Guida or whatever his name is, in the Recruiting Dept.

Ed O is living that 17 million dollar buy out life. I don't think he's going to want to come to Lincoln and recruit kids. Maybe I'm wrong but I sure as hell wouldn't.

 

[Eloot224]

Ed O is living that 17 million dollar buy out life. I don't think he's going to want to come to Lincoln and recruit kids. Maybe I'm wrong but I sure as hell wouldn't.

Yes, that and he also looks pretty happy following his son Cody’s career and living the Miami life.

 

[lee_carvallo_12]

I agree that the O line and D line have to be priority 1 and 2...although QB always has to be up there.

Just need to understand that developing an O line/D line and the depth it takes time. The transfer portal is a good tool, but really good O line/D line are the hardest transfers to get. 1) They don't transfer as much 2) everybody needs them.

Hopefully we can coach up what we have better to get us through the first couple of years. After that, DONU needs to be a development program on the OL/DL. Recruit quality kids, redshirt, training table, S&C, don't get called on to contribute in a starting role until year 3.

one of many big, glaring problems is forcing kids to play too early and then they get their ass kicked, lose confidence, get injured (or all 3) and never reach their potential. Teddy, Turner and Benhart are all products of this. Forced to play way too early due to shitty development of older players in front of them. look where we are because of it.

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Ed O is living that 17 million dollar buy out life. I don't think he's going to want to come to Lincoln and recruit kids. Maybe I'm wrong but I sure as hell wouldn't.

Yeah. He seems like he's happy he won a natty as a HC and enjoying life

 

[slattimer]

After the HC hire. Personally, I think the S&C and OL coaches are the next two biggest hires after the HC.
This program, in this Conference needs an absolute game changer in S&C and OL.

Give me Leipold at Kansas with Scott Fucks and bring in Ed O for the Dline. I have no clue on S&C other than the fella that got shit canned at Cockeyes.

Keep Mickey at WR. Now Leipold would have his home run recruiters in Mick and Ed O.

EDIT: keep Bill Busch too. Three headed monster in recruiting and David Guida or whatever his name is, in the Recruiting Dept.

I'd keep applewhite if possible, he seems like he's been great so far.

 

[mcgradynu]

Isn't there some weird exception the NCAA allows for the next two years to basically sign unlimited guys to get to 85? I thought I heard that on the radio the other day. You get a guy like Urbz, flip the whole damn roster damn near.

If not, if you get a competent coach, I mean shit, Leipold has got KU to 3 wins in year two, I don't think it's out of the question to get to 6 wins and bowl eligibility by year 2 or 3, 9 wins by year 4 or 5. I just think back to the complete incompetence of the last several years, anyone worth their salt should help turn this around quicker than what most people would think.

The key obviously will be how can you fill out the roster with quality OL/DL guys.

Isn’t this the damnedest thing? It’s incredible to me how many people acknowledge the incompetence in one breath, and then in the next talk about how impossible the situation is…

It’s only impossible if you’re fucking incompetent! And we’ve led the nation in incompetence from the AD down for damn near 15 years.

 

[MtnHusker]

I will be curious to see how the new coach is accepted. When Callahan and Riley came to town as perceived outsiders, the mob was just waiting to shitcan them at the first chance.

Then Scrote comes to town and literally fields the worst NU teams since Jennings and for some reason many were ok with that and kept giving him more and more rope.

The new guy should be able to damn near make a bowl game in year 1 with a couple OL/DL portal guys. Continue that in year 2 with 6-8 wins and then by year 3 compete for the West title.

However, year 2 is when USC/UCLA join the fray. How does that change the divisions? L. Riley could have a really stellar team at that point and I am not sure how competitive NU will be at that point which could push the rebuild out further.

Agree 1000%. My uncle who is a TC'er wanted Callahan & Riley fired before they even coached their first games. Bashed on them about everything they did, non-stop. Frost is hired giving him a chubby for weeks because Scott is bringing in Ruud as his Linebackers Coach and he is told QB Vedral will transfer in. Ruud had never coached in his life but that didn't matter to my uncle as he thought it was the best hire ever.

I bring up Urban, O'Brien, Rhule, Peterson, Aranda, Fickel & Campbell as possible coaches. Shoots them all down except for Aranda because he was a DC at Wisconsin and Campbell because he coaches next door at ISU. Then starts clamoring on about Leipold and Klieman being the best answers. Even brought up Craig Bohl as someone who should get an interview. So scared of change and outsiders

 

[Alcaus]

Agree 1000%. My uncle who is a TC'er wanted Callahan & Riley fired before they even coached their first games. Bashed on them about everything they did, non-stop. Frost is hired giving him a chubby for weeks because Scott is bringing in Ruud as his Linebackers Coach and he is told QB Vedral will transfer in. Ruud had never coached in his life but that didn't matter to my uncle as he thought it was the best hire ever.

I bring up Urban, O'Brien, Rhule, Peterson, Aranda, Fickel & Campbell as possible coaches. Shoots them all down except for Aranda because he was a DC at Wisconsin and Campbell because he coaches next door at ISU. Then starts clamoring on about Leipold and Klieman being the best answers. Even brought up Craig Bohl as someone who should get an interview. So scared of change and outsiders

Hopefully you give him shit for being a dumbass

 

[Huskerbuck85]

I don't think the OL we have are so awful they can't be rescued. I see some of the shit they do, or schemes they get into, it's hard.

Plus I heard Raiola speak at the coaching clinic in the spring. He talked about hand placement of the OL....and it was basically the opposite of everything I've ever been taught as a player, or saw/learned from any other coach at a number of clinics I've been to over the last 18 years. He was thumbs in, not thumbs up.

The biggest issue to me upfront, how much movement do they really block on a regular basis? It just doesn't seem like much, maybe I'm wrong, because outside of the one practice I watched, I have no idea. But that one practice in the spring, was very little movement, and a lot of doubling an entrenched DL to a backer.

Heard a Coach Embree speak at a clinic one year in KC, he's been at Mizzou, Arkansas, and several other stops. His pass protection stuff was really good, but he talked at length that if you want to get good at picking up shit, you've got to rep the looks you're going to get on film and the standard defensive blitzes like America's blitz.

Wtf do thumbs matter if they can’t get their hands on the opposing D?

 

[slattimer]

Wtf do thumbs matter if they can’t get their hands on the opposing D?

Leverage and angles. To me it matters a lot. Thumbs in is weak - elbows are out. Thumbs up - elbows are down - create more lift, displace defenders.

 

[Huskerbuck85]

Leverage and angles. To me it matters a lot. Thumbs in is weak - elbows are out. Thumbs up - elbows are down - create more lift, displace defenders.

Oh I get your point, I’m just speaking to the fact the DL and LBs run past our OL without getting touched! Most benhart and it’s maddening