Breaking New Kicker???

[SoCal_Corn]

 

[Seaofred92]

Isn't that what we did this year? Isn't he from Cockeye Western?

sort of, but this guy wasn't even really kicking before at Cockeye Western right?

Im talking like a starting place kicker and/or long snapper from one of the in-state schools. It just feels like it shouldn't be this difficult.

 

[Jim14510]

It just feels like it shouldn't be this difficult.

Agreed

 

[Cookiemonster]

The kickers form is not good. He would never make it in d1. Likely not even in naia.

 

[Pipehog69]

Here’s what I’ve never understood about kicking: An FBS kicker needs the ball, which isn’t even moving, to be straight upright with the stupid laces out to hit a huge target. Meanwhile your average college soccer player at any level can hit a much smaller goal with a ball that’s coming at them at a weird angle with spin and little to no reaction time. Never made sense to me

 

[Seaofred92]

Here’s what I’ve never understood about kicking: An FBS kicker needs the ball, which isn’t even moving, to be straight upright with the stupid laces out to hit a huge target. Meanwhile your average college soccer player at any level can hit a much smaller goal with a ball that’s coming at them at a weird angle with spin and little to no reaction time. Never made sense to me

Different sports, different levels of pressure, different goals you’re kicking into, different balls, different situations, etc.

You’re basically comparing ping pong and tennis players and asking why people on the Chinese olympic ping pong team aren’t beating Jannik Sinner at Wimbledon.

 

[Pipehog69]

Different sports, different levels of pressure, different goals you’re kicking into, different balls, different situations, etc.

You’re basically comparing ping pong and tennis players and asking why people on the Chinese olympic ping pong team aren’t beating Jannik Sinner at Wimbledon.

Are you Tristan Alvano? That is a terrible analogy.

The reality is that most kickers are failed soccer players and would be even worse at soccer than they are kicking a football. Look at Brandon Aubrey, he is a top 5 kicker in the NFL and he couldn’t even make it in the USL.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

Here’s what I’ve never understood about kicking: An FBS kicker needs the ball, which isn’t even moving, to be straight upright with the stupid laces out to hit a huge target. Meanwhile your average college soccer player at any level can hit a much smaller goal with a ball that’s coming at them at a weird angle with spin and little to no reaction time. Never made sense to me

A soccer ball is round. Completely uniform both up & down, and side to side. Every inch of it behaves the same way. Rotate the ball by any amount in any direction, and you are kicking at the same effective target, while the flight path of a sphere shape means that the effect of errors is more gradual.

A football is different both up & down, as well as side to side. Any rotation in any direction affects the target shape, size, & mechanics. The effect of an error on a non-spherical ball becomes immediately more accentuated by the non-uniform shape.

IOW, you can't "tilt" a soccer ball a soccer ball at all, but you can tilt a football forward, back, left, or right relative to the kicker in a nearly infinite array of positions.

Now consider that the entire time from snap to kick is under 1.3 seconds, and the exact spot & rotation of the football goes through multiple redirections, and isn't done until roughly the time that the kicker is putting his plant foot down, and you have an entirely different scenario than squaring up an orb on a flight path you're visually tracking.

Also, a soccer goal is 24' wide, a college/NFL goalpost is 18'6".

Those are just some of the basic physics before you get into the whole psychological angle. They're significantly different skill sets.

 

[Pipehog69]

A soccer ball is round. Completely uniform both up & down, and side to side. Every inch of it behaves the same way. Rotate the ball by any amount in any direction, and you are kicking at the same effective target, while the flight path of a sphere shape means that the effect of errors is more gradual.

A football is different both up & down, as well as side to side. Any rotation in any direction affects the target shape, size, & mechanics. The effect of an error on a non-spherical ball becomes immediately more accentuated by the non-uniform shape.

IOW, you can't "tilt" a soccer ball a soccer ball at all, but you can tilt a football forward, back, left, or right relative to the kicker in a nearly infinite array of positions.

Now consider that the entire time from snap to kick is under 1.3 seconds, and the exact spot & rotation of the football goes through multiple redirections, and isn't done until roughly the time that the kicker is putting his plant foot down, and you have an entirely different scenario than squaring up an orb on a flight path you're visually tracking.

Also, a soccer goal is 24' wide, a college/NFL goalpost is 18'6".

Those are just some of the basic physics before you get into the whole psychological angle. They're significantly different skill sets.

Lotta time wasted defending kickers here.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

Lotta time wasted defending kickers here.

Invited it on yourself when you praised soccer players.

 

[Jim14510]

Invited it on yourself when you praised soccer players.

Also soccer players are predominantly gay.

 

[2010sarenevercomingback]

Also soccer players are predominantly gay.

More like presubmissively gay, but I get what you're saying.

 

[Kazman5k]

This thread’s getting good

 

[Baron Winnebago]

Also soccer players are predominantly gay.

I played soccer.

 

[Jim14510]

I played soccer.

 

[SoCal_Corn]

If only there was an example of a (former) SOCCER player succeeding as a FG KICKER in some random football league....🤔🤔🤔

Or, the NFL even.



Oh, wait:

Watch Brandon Aubrey explaining his path from Notre Dame soccer to the NFL

In what has become like script from a movie, former Notre Dame soccer star Brandon Aubrey went from believing his career was over as a professional athlete, only to pick up kicking and finding his way to the NFL. The Dallas Cowboys All-Pro place kick

sports.yahoo.com

For the last two seasons (to date) the dude has been the best Kicker in the NFL and it's not even close.


Maybe we should look on LINKED IN for a FG Kickin' Software Engineer???





And this too....LOL

Cowboys' legend Dan Bailey reacts to historic start by Brandon Aubrey

The search for his successor spanned several seasons and suffered through many failed experiments — e.g., Greg Zuerlein, Brett Maher (more than once), Tristan Vizcaino — before the dice were rolled on Aubrey midway through training camp in 2023, when he forced Vizcaino out of Oxnard and went on to have, in more ways than one, the best start to a kicking career in the history of the NFL.

 

[BugeaterInWa]

If only there was an example of a (former) SOCCER player succeeding as a FG KICKER in some random football league....🤔🤔🤔

Or, the NFL even.



Oh, wait:

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Watch Brandon Aubrey explaining his path from Notre Dame soccer to the NFL

In what has become like script from a movie, former Notre Dame soccer star Brandon Aubrey went from believing his career was over as a professional athlete, only to pick up kicking and finding his way to the NFL. The Dallas Cowboys All-Pro place kick

sports.yahoo.com

For the last two seasons (to date) the dude has been the best Kicker in the NFL and it's not even close.


Maybe we should look on LINKED IN for a FG Kickin' Software Engineer???





And this too....LOL

Cowboys' legend Dan Bailey reacts to historic start by Brandon Aubrey

The search for his successor spanned several seasons and suffered through many failed experiments — e.g., Greg Zuerlein, Brett Maher (more than once), Tristan Vizcaino — before the dice were rolled on Aubrey midway through training camp in 2023, when he forced Vizcaino out of Oxnard and went on to have, in more ways than one, the best start to a kicking career in the history of the NFL.

Also Alex Henry....

GBR