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Lol at listening to anything Cayden has to say
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A big issue for the pressures analysis is the number of times that Martinez is pressured because he holds the ball too long.
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I skimmed and didn't read the part or stat where Adrian constantly misses open receivers when not pressured and also causes his own pressure by holding onto the ball. Also where is that stat for brain dead and inability to be clutch?
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I've been hard on Martinez at times, but not really this year as much. I honestly have just felt bad for him. Sure, he misses open guys, and doesn't even see others, but it isn't easy given the types of variables listed above. Plus, he has shown some real grit. Without a reliable running game, way too much weight has been out on his shoulders.
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I don’t like Martinez but he would be a lot better if he had even just an average OL.
Same way with having a normal Kicker.
A lot more points scored and his win total is at minimum double.
Not excuses for everything cuz he still holds the ball way too long and fucks up… but god damn that OL is turrible.
Same way with having a normal Kicker.
A lot more points scored and his win total is at minimum double.
Not excuses for everything cuz he still holds the ball way too long and fucks up… but god damn that OL is turrible.
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So a couple of things....
1. When teams don't blitz that allows them to play with +1 coverage to both sides of the field if they want. That naturally is going to cause it to take longer to get guys open. You aren't going to be throwing hot with a 4 man pressure.
2. I don't think the scheme wants much of quick passing game like they did in 2020. To me they went from one extreme to the other. Would like to see more mesh, sticks/double slants, etc... to help get the ball out quicker.
3. I think it is a very small portion, when you consider the plays that are called, that he holds the ball for too long.
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wouldn't the "hurries" number address this?
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They do not.
But the entire analysis is premised on the idea that "Adrian is our offensive problem guy" exists
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Would it?
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How does PFF determine "earlier than intended"
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it does. I would say that there are numerous problems on this offense. So many in fact, that we'd need another finger to point them all out.
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Found this on redit, but....
"As already commented here, the definition will vary depending on the provider due to the subjective nature of those statistics. On PFR, a hurry is any play where the QB is induced to throw the ball earlier than intended or chased out of the pocket, while a pressure is a more encompassing stat that covers sacks, hurries and QB knockdowns."
So basically about 2 of his pressures per game might be his fault based on my understanding of how the stats are kept.
"As already commented here, the definition will vary depending on the provider due to the subjective nature of those statistics. On PFR, a hurry is any play where the QB is induced to throw the ball earlier than intended or chased out of the pocket, while a pressure is a more encompassing stat that covers sacks, hurries and QB knockdowns."
So basically about 2 of his pressures per game might be his fault based on my understanding of how the stats are kept.
I don't know. My guess is it is a judgement based on whoever keeps the stats for the game.
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I asked somebody I know who charts plays... I don't know if he would know, but he would be most likely.
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A lot will tell u about the QB on the throws he doesn’t make/attempt & I think the grading system has rewarded AM for playing it safe which is why we don’t see him progress.
If he was more comfortable with anticipating throws/timing & locating balls thru tighter windows, we wouldn’t be 3-7. He also has no idea when how to change his throw to facilitate the play, it’s always the same speed/trajectory no matter the route, which is probably coaching but still, AM has contributed to our problems.
If he was more comfortable with anticipating throws/timing & locating balls thru tighter windows, we wouldn’t be 3-7. He also has no idea when how to change his throw to facilitate the play, it’s always the same speed/trajectory no matter the route, which is probably coaching but still, AM has contributed to our problems.
