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Do you still have faith in frost?

Do you still have faith that frost can get this turned around?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 51.6%
  • No

    Votes: 35 54.7%

  • Total voters
    64

Havoc34

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I’ll keep this easy with 2 options. No fence sitting. Yes or no. Doesn’t mean you can’t change later on, but this is how you feel right now.
 
Nope, but I don’t care either. I’ve just accepted we will be mediocre-ish forever.
I'm kinda there. hoping for a magical turn around, but hcsf and staff have put a bunch of evidence in front of us for 3.5 years now that they are in over their skis. what could possibly happen to change anything of that, i don't know.
 
I voted yes because I do think he has a lot of qualities that would make him successful long term. That being said he’s now in a race against the clock and I don’t know if he’s capable of getting results quick enough to keep his job. If I had to guess I’d guess he’s a successful coach somewhere 10 years from now though
 
I'm kinda there. hoping for a magical turn around, but hcsf and staff have put a bunch of evidence in front of us for 3.5 years now that they are in over their skis. what could possibly happen to change anything of that, i don't know.
And going all-in on AM/Verduzco probably means chances of any turn-around are slim. Get better odds on a Ron Kellogg Hail Mary
 
I voted yes because I do think he has a lot of qualities that would make him successful long term. That being said he’s now in a race against the clock and I don’t know if he’s capable of getting results quick enough to keep his job. If I had to guess I’d guess he’s a successful coach somewhere 10 years from now though
Agree with this. If we fire him, it’s going to be great (not) when he gets hired on as like an OC for some team and does amazing.
 
Seems like the alumni hire in big boy football is a failed experiment. it probably just hits too close to home. Not only do you face all the external pressures that every cfb coach making millions a year faces, but you get doubled up on by the internal pressure from family, friends, old teammates, etc.
 
It pains me to say I voted No. I have just been around too many CEO, Leaders, Politicians.......... to notice the subtle differences between the ones who are highly successful and the ones who aren't. I just don't think Scott is a natural leader like most of the great coaches. He reminds me more of Pelini than T.O. A great leader needs to be introspective enough to look at their flaws and make the necessary changes. We have seen this team struggle with some of the same problems for 3 years without the necessary changes or at least attempts to change. I still question his decision to bring in such an inexperienced staff to compete in the B1G. Status Quo is great if you are winning but when you are in the worst 3 year run in the last 50+ years for a storied program you really need to shake things up. At times he seems more concerned with being right than figuring out why the current method isn't working and what can potentially be done to correct that. I sure hope I am wrong because I would love nothing better than for him to prove me wrong and turn this around next season. To me Wins and Loses speak quite loudly as does seeing a team that gets better each game and especially each season. I haven't seen that consistent improvement each season from the team as a whole. I feel like we have looked like a poorly coached team the last 3 seasons. GBR
 
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It pains me to say I voted No. I have just been around too many CEO, Leaders, Politicians.......... to notice the subtle differences between the ones who are highly successful and the ones who aren't. I just don't think Scott is a natural leader like most of the great coaches. He reminds me more of Pelini than T.O. A great leader needs to be introspective enough to look at their flaws and make the necessary changes. We have seen this team struggle with some of the same problems for 3 years without the necessary changes or at least attempts to change. I still question his decision to bring in such an inexperienced staff to compete in the B1G. Status Quo is great if you are winning but when you are in the worst 3 year run in the last 50+ years for a storied program you really need to shake things up. At times he seems more concerned with being right than figuring out why the current method isn't working and what can potentially be done to correct that. I sure hope I am wrong because I would love nothing better than for him to prove me wrong and turn this around next season. To me Wins and Loses speak quite loudly as does seeing a team that gets better each game and especially each season. I haven't seen that consistent improvement each season from the team as a whole. I feel like we have looked like a poorly coached team the last 3 seasons. GBR
Agree on the leadership aspect. And to your point about wanting to be right just look at the Minnesota game last year. They came in decimated by covid protocol and allowing close to 8yards a carry and we throw it 30 times
 
Agree on the leadership aspect. And to your point about wanting to be right just look at the Minnesota game last year. They came in decimated by covid protocol and allowing close to 8yards a carry and we throw it 30 times
The “wanting to be right” is the feeling I’ve gotten over the last year and a half or so now. Instead of just pounding the rock like Rutgers but against Minnesota, he tried to run the classic spread on a shitty day against a team that couldn’t stop the run. He just wants his system to work so badly here so he can say he was right all along.
 
I voted yes because I do think he has a lot of qualities that would make him successful long term. That being said he’s now in a race against the clock and I don’t know if he’s capable of getting results quick enough to keep his job. If I had to guess I’d guess he’s a successful coach somewhere 10 years from now though
Boy wouldn’t that be the ultimate kick to the dick. Say he pulls another Oregon if fired here, goes back to being an OC somewhere else big or an HC again in G5 and just kills it and gets back to a natty again in a few years. Fuck that’d be funny not funny.
 
No. It was further reinforced by the post by someone on the scrolls today who found coaches who turned it around in year 4 or 5 and almost all of them made a significant staff change to improve.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"
-Peter North
 
At this point, I’ve turned into just an average fan. I don’t get as excited about gamedays. If I get tickets for free, I’ll go. Do I think he can turn it around sometime? Sure. Losses have become too normal for me to really get upset anymore.
 
No. It was further reinforced by the post by someone on the scrolls today who found coaches who turned it around in year 4 or 5 and almost all of them made a significant staff change to improve.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"
-Peter North
you sure that was Peter North?
fun supernatural fandom GIF
 
Yes.

I think Frost will get 7+ wins and head to a bowl game in 2021. Then he will make some changes to his staff on the offensive side of the ball.
 

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